Merkurpassage (Durchgang) vor der Sonne. Mercury transit across the Sun. Like all the other planets of the Solar System, tiny planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars) are revolving around the Sun.More
Merkurpassage (Durchgang) vor der Sonne.
Mercury transit across the Sun. Like all the other planets of the Solar System, tiny planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars) are revolving around the Sun.
Mercury transit across the Sun. Like all the other planets of the Solar System, tiny planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars) are revolving around the Sun.
The difference between the heliocentric and geocentric systems is the formulae of the former are simpler than the formulae of the latter.
After Einstein few if any profs teaching cosmology are concerned with positing a center of the unIverse. It is man's intellectual ability that makes the earth the center--but not necessarily the geographic center--of the universe.More
The difference between the heliocentric and geocentric systems is the formulae of the former are simpler than the formulae of the latter.
After Einstein few if any profs teaching cosmology are concerned with positing a center of the unIverse. It is man's intellectual ability that makes the earth the center--but not necessarily the geographic center--of the universe.
After Einstein few if any profs teaching cosmology are concerned with positing a center of the unIverse. It is man's intellectual ability that makes the earth the center--but not necessarily the geographic center--of the universe.
I had St Thomas in mind rather than Occam (or Ockham). Ockham's razor is a consequence of his Nominalism.
St Thomas, obviously not a Nominalist, would be doing something different:
He rejects any notion of absolute Time and Place* (thus Newton). Applying that to the solar system, it is possible to explain its motion using the sun as the center. the earth, or for that matter, any of the planets, …More
I had St Thomas in mind rather than Occam (or Ockham). Ockham's razor is a consequence of his Nominalism.
St Thomas, obviously not a Nominalist, would be doing something different:
He rejects any notion of absolute Time and Place* (thus Newton). Applying that to the solar system, it is possible to explain its motion using the sun as the center. the earth, or for that matter, any of the planets, acc to model that varies only in complexity. I know of no model using the earth as a center that doesn't have recourse to epicycles not found in a heliocentric model. Thus the matter of simplicity.
* Einstein's concept of Space and Time is closer to St Thomas' than it is to Newton's.
St Thomas, obviously not a Nominalist, would be doing something different:
He rejects any notion of absolute Time and Place* (thus Newton). Applying that to the solar system, it is possible to explain its motion using the sun as the center. the earth, or for that matter, any of the planets, acc to model that varies only in complexity. I know of no model using the earth as a center that doesn't have recourse to epicycles not found in a heliocentric model. Thus the matter of simplicity.
* Einstein's concept of Space and Time is closer to St Thomas' than it is to Newton's.
@munk serafim What you say is impossible and in contradiction with available knowledge.
@munk serafim You say one example please?
One of the proof of the Heliocentric model is that we can predict accurately future planetary transits and occultations as well as going into the past.
List of mutual planetary occultations and transits (there is much more than what is on this list with other celestial objects):More
@munk serafim You say one example please?
One of the proof of the Heliocentric model is that we can predict accurately future planetary transits and occultations as well as going into the past.
List of mutual planetary occultations and transits (there is much more than what is on this list with other celestial objects):
One of the proof of the Heliocentric model is that we can predict accurately future planetary transits and occultations as well as going into the past.
List of mutual planetary occultations and transits (there is much more than what is on this list with other celestial objects):
@munk serafim I have myself a software where we can see the planets' motion (moon, many comets etc.), like when they go behind the Sun (Mercury, Venus) or almost (when there is an angle for a more upper or more down below trajectory), so we can predict the position of anything in the future and going into the past. Nothing of that would work with the erroneous model you posted! Peace!
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@munk serafim In general, you like to cite old stuff (Mach, Lagrange, Sundman, Rosser, Sciama etc.), very old stuff (Copernicus, Kepler), and now Charles Lane Poor (1866-1951) ouch!
Many things are outdated, there are much more knowledge and data today! Now, we know the Earth is orbiting around the Sun a bit slower when Mars is closer to our planet. So it is not enough to project a trajectory and …More
@munk serafim In general, you like to cite old stuff (Mach, Lagrange, Sundman, Rosser, Sciama etc.), very old stuff (Copernicus, Kepler), and now Charles Lane Poor (1866-1951) ouch!
Many things are outdated, there are much more knowledge and data today! Now, we know the Earth is orbiting around the Sun a bit slower when Mars is closer to our planet. So it is not enough to project a trajectory and to presume a constant speed-- modern scientists can include more details.
You see, many of the basic techniques of 3D computer graphics were developed in the early 1970s (Charles Lane Poor died in 1951). These people didn't have access to all modern tools on Earth, and in space.
Because of you, I read about Mach, and his affirmations are regarded as more or less flimsy today according to the different matters in question.
Many things are outdated, there are much more knowledge and data today! Now, we know the Earth is orbiting around the Sun a bit slower when Mars is closer to our planet. So it is not enough to project a trajectory and to presume a constant speed-- modern scientists can include more details.
You see, many of the basic techniques of 3D computer graphics were developed in the early 1970s (Charles Lane Poor died in 1951). These people didn't have access to all modern tools on Earth, and in space.
Because of you, I read about Mach, and his affirmations are regarded as more or less flimsy today according to the different matters in question.
