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Excommunication of FSSPX May Be Invalid – Bishop Schneider

An excommunication of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X (FSSPX) may be invalid, Bishop Athanasius Schneider said according to Michael Haynes on X.com.

"I think that, if the excommunication would be applied, it would be in some way not valid because there is no intention to do a schismatic act on the side of the Society of Pius X, and you cannot be punished when you have not the intention to do it, according to the canon law."

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Michael Haynes

Journalist here who published the article with Bishop Schneider. I'll be posting more of my articles & reports from Rome on Gloria TV in the future.

Denis Efimov

"I should be very happy to be excommunicated from this Conciliar Church" (Monsignor Lefebvre, July 29, 1976).

foward

Yes, if Prevost is not the Pope. But if Prevost is the Pope, Schneider is wrong.

Mike the Pike

Bishop Schneider may not be wrong. I'm not a theologian, so am unqualified to answer.

Mike Paul Smith

Of coarse it would be invalid. Heretics & Apostates hold no legal power in the church..

Mike the Pike

The SSPX also mentions the pope in its mass; same as Lefebvre did. Thus, not intentional.

Ave Crux

Exactly.....the SSPX loves the Holy Catholic Church more than life itself. They keep appealing to the Holy See to meet with them. But no.....the Pope meets with all kinds of monsters and seculars, appoints all kinds of heterodox Bishops, upholds heterodox documents on human sexuality, but still refuses to meet with representatives of SSPX, which represents over 600,000 Catholic Faithful, 700 Priests, over 300 seminarians, five (5) seminaries, chapels, schools and religious all over the world, who are simply doing exactly what the Holy Catholic Church did for 2,000 years, holding fast the Dogmas held by the Church for 2,000 years. They are hardly in schism. The most they can be charged with is failure to obey an unjust impediment to their existence as a vast Catholic network of very faithful Catholics.

philosopher

The SSPX are the ones walking away, this time. They were offered dialogue in oder to find a way of recognition and regularization. Bishop Athanasius Schneider has also said that they should take up the offer to dialogue in addition to Rome recognizing them, and working out the details later. It is a legitimate use of Papal authority to ask for a pause on consecrations, and seek clarification on a regularization in the Church, so, I can't support them in this. Its a tragic tale being played out with entrenched and hardened attitudes on both sides, and both sides have some degree of fault.

Mike the Pike

Ummm. No one is walking away. The SSPX went public because it was getting stonewalled by the Vatican. Also, the pope has not talked to the SSPX. The porno cardinal asked for a pause. My guess, Tuco made a ridiculous precondition (1) to confuse the discussion and (2) to have an excuse to continue stonewalling.

jose g rodriguez

According to "his excellency" Schneider, this excommunication "may be invalid" and "it would be in some way" are very prudent words, but, coming from the mouth of a novus ordo cleric, I would not call it prudence...

I agree. His Excellency is logical and right on the mark.

petrus100452

No schismatic has ever had the intention to do a schismatic act. They always intended to "preserve the true faith". It is not the intention that counts but the act itself. God will judge the intentions....

Mike the Pike

I'd say the Modernists/Globalists want a schism and they want the blame on someone else. Pope Bergoglio tried and failed. Bergoglio acted like a heretic before he was pope.