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40 days "Fasting and Prayer" for a breakthrough in Europe. Johannes Hartl and Lou Engle speak about 40 days of fasting and praying for Europe.More
40 days "Fasting and Prayer" for a breakthrough in Europe.
Johannes Hartl and Lou Engle speak about 40 days of fasting and praying for Europe.
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@Abramo
thanks, I agree with your amendments.
Abramo
@charisma: What Hartl says is (more or less) o.k. I suspect that the claims of his group that "these are exciting and extraordinary times" and this is "God's time for Europe", "one hundred million people turning to God in Europe" may be slightly hyperbolic (Hartl sounds a bit like Trump, not that I have something against Trump). There is nothing wrong with fasting, I would just wish the the rhetoric …More
@charisma: What Hartl says is (more or less) o.k. I suspect that the claims of his group that "these are exciting and extraordinary times" and this is "God's time for Europe", "one hundred million people turning to God in Europe" may be slightly hyperbolic (Hartl sounds a bit like Trump, not that I have something against Trump). There is nothing wrong with fasting, I would just wish the the rhetoric would be a bit more humble and Catholic. Further I did not understand why we should fast for the Jewish Passover. Did I misunderstand something? And: What is the "Jesus movement in Galilee"? Does Hartl speak about the Church? I don't want to be picky, but I have learned to listen to people and to how they speak, and I must say that these things do not sound right to me. They sound to me like an average Protestant preacher in the U.S. I do not want to disparage the Protestants, but I like Catholics who speaks Catholic.
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@Humilitatis, @HerzMarie, @Abramo,
Could you pls explain what is not Catholic in this initiative? What is evil regarding a 40-day-long fasting and prayer for Europe? Facts, pls, not assumptions and general views on ecumenism, likes and dislikes, etc. Thanks.
Humilitatis
If not Catholic, should not be joined. Luther is an evil heretic. You will move towards Satan. Run away pray the rosaryLeave this site.
HerzMariae
Everything Hartl does is "ecumenical". He has protestant services at his emotional meetings. They say (not confirmed) that at Hartls "Mehr"-conference the auxiliary bishop of Augsburg spent the protestant bread during a lutheran service. Hartl spreads confusion between catholicism and protestantism.
Abramo
@charisma: I know Hartl. He is well liked by the German bishops (which is nothing to be proud of)
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@Abramo,
this guy is driven by the Holy Spirit, he is reliable and a good preacher, I have heard several recordings from him.
Abramo
I got it, U.S. evangelical excitement-preaching is hitting the Old Continent 😀 . I wonder whether selling emotions will be enough.