P. Gruner o 3. fatimském tajemství, že odmítnutí povinné mnohodětnosti je apostasí (odpadnutím) od Krista. V čase od 00:48:29.515 Anglické titulky automatem: WEBVTT 00:00:11.970 --> 00:00:14.910 Good afternoon. 00:00:15.270 --> 00:00:20.570 I just sent to the translators my <00:00:17.920>speech, I hope they got it by now. 00:00:20.590 --> 00:00:23.700 Please give the speech to the translators. 00:00:23.700 --> 00:00:24.920 It did. 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:26.050 Okay. 00:00:26.050 --> 00:00:31.940 So I'm sorry, so first of all we'll start <00:00:29.320>with a Hail Mary in order to help us 00:00:31.940 --> 00:00:37.920 understand this and help me to deliver <00:00:34.930>this message as best I can. In the name 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:42.460 of the Father and of the <00:00:39.430>Son and of the Holy Ghost, <00:00:40.950>Amen. Hail Mary full of grace 00:00:42.460 --> 00:00:47.440 the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou <00:00:44.950>among women and blessed is the fruit of 00:00:47.440 --> 00:00:49.340 thy womb, Jesus. 00:00:54.060 --> 00:00:57.420 Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us. 00:00:57.420 --> 00:00:59.820 Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us. 00:00:59.820 --> 00:01:01.970 Saint Joseph, pray for us. 00:01:01.970 --> 00:01:06.680 Blessed Jacinta and Francesco, <00:01:03.690>pray for us in the name of <00:01:05.190>the Father, the Son, and the 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:07.250 Holy Ghost. 00:01:07.250 --> 00:01:08.350 Amen. 00:01:08.350 --> 00:01:17.620 The third secret refers, <00:01:12.020>concerns the faith, concerns <00:01:14.820>the church. We can, people 00:01:17.620 --> 00:01:22.800 can say, well maybe we exaggerate, <00:01:19.340>maybe we make this up. <00:01:21.070>So I'd like to give you 00:01:22.800 --> 00:01:27.290 the testimony of various persons who have read the secret. 00:01:27.290 --> 00:01:34.990 These persons have spoken <00:01:30.120>publicly, and you can find <00:01:32.550>these references yourself in the 00:01:34.990 --> 00:01:37.920 various places they have been published. 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.960 We have the earliest testimony of Cardinal Pacelli. 00:01:41.960 --> 00:01:44.880 became Pope Pius XII. 00:01:44.880 --> 00:01:52.060 Colonel Bocelli made this <00:01:47.660>statement in the early 1930s <00:01:49.860>and he tells us it's directly 00:01:52.060 --> 00:01:56.550 related to the message of Fatima. 00:01:56.550 --> 00:02:03.970 Here's what he says, I'm worried by the <00:02:00.700>Blessed Virgin's messages to Lucy of 00:02:03.970 --> 00:02:11.370 Fatima. This persistence of Mary about <00:02:07.670>the dangers which menace the church is a 00:02:11.370 --> 00:02:18.190 divine warning against the suicide of <00:02:14.780>altering the faith in her liturgy, in her 00:02:18.190 --> 00:02:20.680 theology, and in her soul. 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:28.330 I hear all around me innovators <00:02:23.590>who wish to dismantle the <00:02:25.960>Sacred Chapel, to destroy the 00:02:28.330 --> 00:02:35.150 universal flame of the Church, <00:02:30.610>reject her ornaments and make <00:02:32.880>her feel remorse for her 00:02:35.150 --> 00:02:35.400 historic sin. 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:42.340 past. A day will come when <00:02:37.740>the civilized world will <00:02:40.040>deny its God, when the Church 00:02:42.340 --> 00:02:48.480 will doubt as Peter doubted. She will be <00:02:45.410>tempted to believe that man has become 00:02:48.480 --> 00:02:49.280 God. 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:55.950 In our churches, Christians will <00:02:51.550>search in vain for the red <00:02:53.490>lamp where God awaits them. 00:02:55.950 --> 00:02:59.670 Like Mary Magdalene weeping before <00:02:57.950>the empty tomb, they will ask, 00:02:59.670 --> 00:03:02.050 Where have they taken him? 00:03:02.050 --> 00:03:06.120 Remember, this is written in 1931. 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:14.620 And yet we see many of us have had the <00:03:09.200>experience of going into our churches <00:03:11.680>and not being able to find the red lamp, 00:03:14.620 --> 00:03:18.400 signifying that Christ is present in the Blessed Sacrament. 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:20.720 In 1930, if you can believe that, 00:03:20.720 --> 00:03:28.150 put yourself back in those <00:03:23.200>days, such an idea would be <00:03:25.680>inconceivable. And yet, it's in 00:03:28.150 --> 00:03:34.670 the message of Fatima. It is told to <00:03:31.170>us nowhere else but the third secret. 00:03:34.670 --> 00:03:42.560 The secret then certainly concerns <00:03:37.620>things like putting a red <00:03:40.090>lamp in our churches or 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:49.360 even having the tabernacle in <00:03:44.500>the center of our altars in <00:03:46.430>the most important place. 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:56.600 He refers also to the civilized world will deny its God. 00:03:56.600 --> 00:04:02.430 In Canada, for example, when they <00:03:59.790>put the Constitution in 1981, 00:04:02.430 --> 00:04:06.940 it was a big fight to actually mention <00:04:04.600>God anywhere in the Constitution. 00:04:06.940 --> 00:04:13.710 I know that Pope John Paul II was <00:04:10.620>very distressed by the fact that 00:04:13.710 --> 00:04:18.790 the European Constitution would not mention Jesus Christ. 00:04:19.590 --> 00:04:28.500 If it's not just a symbol to mention God <00:04:24.440>or our Lord Jesus Christ in the Bible, 00:04:28.500 --> 00:04:36.850 laws and institutions, but it is <00:04:31.280>those laws and institutions which in <00:04:33.860>turn affect how the law is interpreted. 00:04:36.850 --> 00:04:46.990 Without putting our Lord's name in <00:04:39.480>there, that is why they can later <00:04:41.700>on tell us that the crucifix is <00:04:43.920>not allowed in Italian schools. 00:04:46.990 --> 00:04:54.640 And even if that's been reversed, <00:04:49.780>it's only on a technicality, it's not <00:04:51.710>reversed on the fundamental issue. 00:04:55.800 --> 00:05:04.390 Let us then remember that this was <00:05:00.360>said by Pope Pius XII in 1931. 00:05:04.390 --> 00:05:07.060 He had access to Lucy. 00:05:07.060 --> 00:05:08.820 The secret was not written down. 00:05:08.820 --> 00:05:14.380 She was willing to tell the <00:05:10.590>secret, but not to write it down <00:05:12.290>to people who had authority. 00:05:14.380 --> 00:05:18.540 She told this, must have told him in the 1930s. 00:05:18.540 --> 00:05:24.770 But the message is not only dependent on Pius XII. 00:05:24.770 --> 00:05:28.260 We have many other testimonies to give you. 00:05:28.260 --> 00:05:35.590 It is a testimony of Canon Casimir <00:05:31.890>Barthus who asked sister Lucy in 1946, 00:05:35.690 --> 00:05:41.690 Why must the world wait until 1960 <00:05:38.960>for the revelation of the secret? 00:05:41.690 --> 00:05:51.900 He is referring to the third secret, <00:05:44.410>obviously the first part and the <00:05:46.670>second part had been released in <00:05:48.930>1941 in her third and fourth memoirs. 00:05:51.900 --> 00:05:57.130 Why must we wait till 1960 for <00:05:54.110>the revelation of the secret, <00:05:55.620>since Lucy gave two answers 00:05:57.130 --> 00:05:59.600 for this particular date. 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:04.990 On one occasion she said, because <00:06:01.750>the Blessed Virgin wishes it <00:06:03.370>so, which should be certainly 00:06:04.990 --> 00:06:08.050 sufficient reason for why we do this, why we wait. 00:06:08.050 --> 00:06:16.800 The second reason she gave <00:06:11.270>on another occasion, Kasimir <00:06:14.030>Barthas, Barthas by the way was a 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:21.010 writer, he's a well-known writer on Panama in the 40s. 00:06:21.010 --> 00:06:26.270 And so the second reason she gave <00:06:23.480>was, it will be clearer then. 00:06:26.270 --> 00:06:36.040 This expression, this <00:06:29.800>explanation by Sister Lucy to <00:06:32.420>Canon Barthes is very revealing. 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:41.760 First of all, it would be clearer in 1960. 00:06:42.290 --> 00:06:49.730 I remember speaking to an <00:06:45.280>Australian couple on my television <00:06:47.270>program and I asked them, 00:06:49.730 --> 00:06:56.470 would you have believed in <00:06:52.300>1950s when you were going to <00:06:54.390>school yourself that you would 00:06:56.470 --> 00:07:00.950 have to have home schooling, <00:06:57.970>that you would not be able to <00:06:59.460>depend on the priests and the 00:07:00.950 --> 00:07:06.360 sisters to teach the faith <00:07:02.620>properly, that you had to <00:07:04.290>teach your children at home. 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.520 She said, no, I wouldn't have believed it then. 00:07:09.520 --> 00:07:16.900 And that's why our Lady held <00:07:12.620>it off until 1960, because <00:07:14.760>then the message of the secret 00:07:16.900 --> 00:07:18.500 would be clearer. 00:07:18.500 --> 00:07:25.930 Just as it would be hard to <00:07:21.290>believe in 1930 that any parish <00:07:23.610>church in the whole Catholic 00:07:25.930 --> 00:07:35.190 church would not have a red <00:07:29.020>lamp burning near the Blessed <00:07:32.100>Sacrament to indicate the Blessed 00:07:35.190 --> 00:07:39.030 Sacrament was there, neither <00:07:36.470>could people understand that <00:07:37.750>there would be priests and 00:07:39.030 --> 00:07:45.690 nuns who would teach heresy in Catholic <00:07:42.040>schools in the 60s and 70s and beyond. 00:07:45.690 --> 00:07:53.340 So Our Lady held it back <00:07:48.370>purposely so that we would be <00:07:50.400>able to understand the prophecy. 00:07:53.340 --> 00:07:56.470 It would be clearer then. 00:07:56.670 --> 00:08:04.300 This also brings us to the <00:07:59.730>fact that the Fatima message <00:08:01.790>of the secret is a prophecy. 00:08:04.300 --> 00:08:08.460 Cardinal Ottobiani in 1955 told us... 00:08:08.460 --> 00:08:14.740 First of all, he met Sister <00:08:10.940>Lucene 55 and he spoke to the <00:08:12.840>public about the secret that 00:08:14.740 --> 00:08:15.980 it is a prophecy. 00:08:15.980 --> 00:08:17.730 It is a foretelling of the future. 00:08:17.730 --> 00:08:22.900 So here you have a prophecy that becomes clearer in 1960. 00:08:22.900 --> 00:08:29.700 Obviously, the Third Secret started <00:08:25.540>to be realized in such a way <00:08:27.620>that it was understandable 00:08:29.700 --> 00:08:32.440 by informed persons by 1960. 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:36.520 We also know when the Third Secret is over. 00:08:36.520 --> 00:08:39.730 The third secret ends with the words, 00:08:39.730 --> 00:08:42.310 In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. 00:08:42.310 --> 00:08:45.230 The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, 00:08:45.230 --> 00:08:46.830 Russia will be converted, 00:08:46.830 --> 00:08:48.770 and a period of peace given to mankind. 00:08:48.770 --> 00:08:50.900 We have not had the consecration of Russia. 00:08:50.900 --> 00:08:55.770 Russia, we have not had the <00:08:52.560>conversion of Russia to the <00:08:54.170>Catholic faith, in fact we haven't 00:08:55.770 --> 00:09:01.200 had Russia conversion to <00:08:57.390>anything other than changing <00:08:59.000>its appearance of government. 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.390 We have not had, of course, world peace. 00:09:04.390 --> 00:09:11.840 So we are living in that period when <00:09:07.080>it starts, 1960, and we're living <00:09:09.140>between that time and when it ends, 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.330 when Russia is consecrated and converted. 00:09:15.330 --> 00:09:22.370 So it's very important, this testimony <00:09:18.000>of Cardinal Barthas, because <00:09:19.890>it will be clearer then. 00:09:22.370 --> 00:09:27.150 We have the third testimony about the <00:09:24.840>third secret, how it concerns the church. 00:09:27.150 --> 00:09:31.910 I'm giving these quotations <00:09:29.030>because some people think we <00:09:30.470>make this up because we're 00:09:31.910 --> 00:09:36.790 just trying to be sensational, but these <00:09:34.120>quotations, none of them come from me. 00:09:36.790 --> 00:09:42.240 any books that we published <00:09:38.730>originally, they have been of <00:09:40.210>course republished by ourselves, 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:48.930 these are statements that you <00:09:44.840>can verify for yourself. The <00:09:46.880>first one from Cardinal Procelli 00:09:48.930 --> 00:09:51.110 by the way is in the book. 00:09:52.720 --> 00:10:04.180 Pidou's Devant Lestoir, Pious XII <00:09:56.870>before the bar of history by Cardinal <00:10:00.020>Tisseras' personal secretary. 00:10:05.420 --> 00:10:09.910 Father Barthas has written many books <00:10:08.120>and you can find those quotes there. 00:10:09.910 --> 00:10:14.160 You can see them recorded in <00:10:11.890>Frere Michel on the Third Secret. 00:10:14.160 --> 00:10:20.390 The third testimony then is <00:10:16.320>from Father Joseph Schlegel <00:10:18.100>who interrogated Sister Lucy. 00:10:20.390 --> 00:10:24.160 He was Pope Pius XII who sent Father Schlegel. 00:10:24.160 --> 00:10:25.970 He's an Austrian priest. 00:10:25.970 --> 00:10:32.670 He's a Jesuit and he went to <00:10:28.200>Sister Lucy in September of <00:10:30.430>1952 to interrogate her about 00:10:32.670 --> 00:10:33.370 the third secret. 00:10:33.370 --> 00:10:34.170 Good. 00:10:34.170 --> 00:10:41.790 This is what he had to say to a <00:10:36.830>colleague of his when he came <00:10:38.810>back from visiting Sister Lucy. 00:10:42.540 --> 00:10:49.200 I cannot reveal anything of <00:10:45.430>what I learned at Fatima <00:10:47.320>concerning the Third Secret, but 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.070 I can say it has two parts. 00:10:51.070 --> 00:10:56.600 One concerns the Pope, the other <00:10:53.230>logically, although I must <00:10:54.920>say nothing, would have to 00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:58.030 be the continuation of the words, 00:10:58.030 --> 00:11:01.870 In Portugal, the dogma of the <00:10:59.760>faith will always be preserved. 00:11:01.870 --> 00:11:07.440 Here you have Father Schweigle <00:11:04.180>then, who was commissioned <00:11:05.810>directly and personally to act 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:12.250 in the Pope's name to visit Sister Lucy in September 1952. 00:11:12.250 --> 00:11:18.130 Sister Lucy explained to him <00:11:14.590>what the secret was and he <00:11:16.310>knows it's in two parts. 00:11:18.130 --> 00:11:19.710 We've been given one part. 00:11:19.710 --> 00:11:22.510 We've been given the part about the killing of the Pope. 00:11:22.510 --> 00:11:27.630 The Pope is executed and <00:11:24.770>of course that's explained <00:11:26.200>already in the message of Rianjo 00:11:27.630 --> 00:11:34.690 when our Lord spoke to Sister Lucy at <00:11:30.820>Rianjo in Spain in August of 1931. 00:11:34.690 --> 00:11:40.560 When our Lord said, make it known <00:11:37.100>to my ministers, given they <00:11:38.830>follow the example of the King 00:11:40.560 --> 00:11:46.280 of France, in delaying the <00:11:42.470>execution of my command like <00:11:44.380>the King of France, they will 00:11:46.280 --> 00:11:48.000 follow him into misfortune. 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:56.790 That vision we see is the <00:11:51.170>execution of the Pope and the <00:11:53.680>bishops and priests and lay people. 00:11:56.790 --> 00:12:02.200 They're executed because they delay <00:11:59.490>too long the consecration of Russia. 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:06.040 That part concerning the Pope we have. 00:12:06.040 --> 00:12:09.410 The part that concerns the rest of us. 00:12:09.410 --> 00:12:10.570 The faith. 00:12:10.570 --> 00:12:17.150 and the results of the corruption <00:12:13.040>of the faith and the corruption <00:12:15.100>of the practice of the faith 00:12:17.150 --> 00:12:21.440 and the apostasy within the church. <00:12:19.040>That part we've not been given. 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:25.280 The fourth testimony is of Sister Lucy herself. 00:12:25.280 --> 00:12:29.570 Her last public interview, <00:12:27.130>that is she was interviewed <00:12:28.350>privately but it was published 00:12:29.570 --> 00:12:34.210 with the informator of the Bishop of Fatima in 1958. 00:12:34.210 --> 00:12:35.850 He interviewed her... 00:12:35.850 --> 00:12:39.250 on the 26th of December 1957. 00:12:39.250 --> 00:12:42.890 This interview was published with all the permissions, 00:12:42.890 --> 00:12:46.620 all the ecclesiastical support and approvals 00:12:46.620 --> 00:12:50.240 that anyone would necessarily would need to have. 00:12:51.580 --> 00:12:55.040 Sister Lucy says 00:12:55.540 --> 00:13:00.080 Father, how much time is there before 1960 arrives? 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:05.800 Father, the devil is in the <00:13:02.350>mood for engaging in a decisive <00:13:03.860>battle against the Blessed Virgin. 00:13:05.800 --> 00:13:11.140 And the devil knows that most <00:13:07.860>offends God and which in a <00:13:09.500>short space of time will gain 00:13:11.140 --> 00:13:12.880 him the greatest number of souls. 00:13:12.880 --> 00:13:17.320 Thus the devil does everything to <00:13:15.190>overcome souls consecrated to God. 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:22.360 Because in this way the devil <00:13:19.170>will succeed in leaving the <00:13:20.760>souls of the faithful abandoned 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:23.490 by their leaders. 00:13:23.490 --> 00:13:27.350 thereby the more easy he will seize them. 00:13:27.350 --> 00:13:33.140 That which afflicts the immaculate <00:13:29.900>heart of Mary and the heart <00:13:31.520>of Jesus is the fall of 00:13:33.140 --> 00:13:35.280 religious and priestly souls. 00:13:35.280 --> 00:13:39.700 The devil knows that religious <00:13:37.170>and priests who fall away <00:13:38.440>from their beautiful vocation 00:13:39.700 --> 00:13:42.260 drag numerous souls to hell. 00:13:42.260 --> 00:13:46.660 The devil wishes to take possession of consecrated souls. 00:13:46.660 --> 00:13:51.560 He tries to corrupt them in <00:13:48.510>order to lull to sleep the <00:13:50.040>souls of lay people and thereby 00:13:51.560 --> 00:13:54.120 lead them to final impenitence. 00:13:54.240 --> 00:14:01.780 This whole interview of Sister <00:13:57.420>Lucy with Father Fuentes is <00:13:59.600>about the third secret, not just 00:14:01.780 --> 00:14:02.840 his passage. 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:12.290 Sister Lucy, after this interview, <00:14:07.590>was silenced by John XXIII. 00:14:12.290 --> 00:14:25.230 That she was not able to speak to <00:14:15.750>anyone without permission explicitly <00:14:18.680>from either the Cardinal Prefect of the <00:14:21.600>Holy Office or from the Pope himself. 00:14:25.230 --> 00:14:32.410 Here you have a soul chosen by God. 00:14:33.250 --> 00:14:40.820 At that time there might have been <00:14:36.290>500 million Catholics and God out <00:14:38.330>of all these Catholics chose one, 00:14:40.820 --> 00:14:44.610 namely Sister Lucy, to be the recipient of this message. 00:14:44.610 --> 00:14:56.680 From 1960 until her death in 2005, <00:14:48.790>as 45 years long, she was not <00:14:52.410>allowed to give another interview. 00:14:56.680 --> 00:15:00.810 This interview, basically you need to study it. 00:15:00.810 --> 00:15:05.170 It's in Fermichel's book on page 308 or 408. 00:15:05.170 --> 00:15:08.810 It is full of meaning. 00:15:08.810 --> 00:15:17.960 The decision to not release <00:15:12.490>the secret taken by John XXIII <00:15:15.220>has been felt by the Church 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:20.120 to this day. 00:15:21.710 --> 00:15:30.930 There are people alive, including <00:15:25.110>Archbishop Capovilla, for example, who <00:15:27.520>are still under the vow of silence. 00:15:31.460 --> 00:15:38.280 There are others as well, who cannot <00:15:35.100>release the secret to the full text. 00:15:38.280 --> 00:15:42.740 The part that Cardinal Bertoni tells us is not authentic. 00:15:42.900 --> 00:15:48.380 We know that Cardinal Bertone thinks <00:15:45.640>this because he said so on television. 00:15:48.380 --> 00:15:55.690 I must congratulate the television <00:15:51.290>network RAI, the Italian <00:15:53.210>Government Television Network, 00:15:55.690 --> 00:16:05.160 when they put on this program called <00:16:00.360>Porta a Porta on the 31st of May 2007. 00:16:05.160 --> 00:16:11.960 Cardinal Bertone said he would <00:16:07.890>not appear on the show unless <00:16:09.920>there were no adversarial 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:12.680 journalists. 00:16:12.680 --> 00:16:16.700 They had about five of them, <00:16:14.110>most of them knew nothing <00:16:15.400>about it, and the one who knew 00:16:16.700 --> 00:16:20.460 something about it was certainly <00:16:17.950>very much in favour of what <00:16:19.200>Cardinal Bertone was saying 00:16:20.460 --> 00:16:21.610 and doing. 00:16:21.610 --> 00:16:28.380 But even so, despite all these <00:16:24.270>restrictions, the producer of <00:16:26.330>that show managed to ask a 00:16:28.380 --> 00:16:31.950 question in the Italian style of how they do things. 00:16:31.950 --> 00:16:34.880 They put on a two-minute intervention. 00:16:34.880 --> 00:16:43.600 in which they had a videotape describing <00:16:38.170>that people, they didn't mention <00:16:40.650>me by name, but people like myself, 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:51.170 are claiming that there was <00:16:46.200>statements in the secret which <00:16:48.340>were critical of the Vatican. 00:16:51.170 --> 00:16:56.940 and critical of things like the Council and so forth. 00:16:56.940 --> 00:17:05.950 And so the question was asked <00:17:00.350>by the anonymous voice in this <00:17:02.910>interview, in this intervention, 00:17:05.950 --> 00:17:08.570 and the Cardinal was asked to respond. 00:17:08.570 --> 00:17:12.420 He was not challenged in his response, <00:17:10.510>but he was asked to respond. 00:17:12.420 --> 00:17:17.030 And the Cardinal's answer is very <00:17:14.570>significant, very interesting. 00:17:17.030 --> 00:17:19.260 He said, 00:17:19.320 --> 00:17:23.290 "'The Blessed Virgin Mary is the help of all Christians. 00:17:23.290 --> 00:17:27.310 Cardinal Bertone is a Salesian father <00:17:25.440>and not as their patron saint.' 00:17:27.310 --> 00:17:33.140 saint. The Blessed Virgin Mary <00:17:29.270>is the help of Christians and <00:17:31.210>how could she possibly criticize 00:17:33.140 --> 00:17:39.680 what the officials in the Vatican <00:17:35.330>or the Vatican policies, she <00:17:37.500>is the help of Christians, she 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:41.360 could not do that. 00:17:41.360 --> 00:17:49.810 And that is the sum total of <00:17:44.310>his reasoning why he says that <00:17:46.650>the other text is not authentic. 00:17:49.810 --> 00:17:55.770 But his argument is so <00:17:52.130>empty by anyone who knows <00:17:53.620>anything about Sacred Scripture. 00:17:55.770 --> 00:18:03.490 You can find Saint Paul speaking <00:17:58.780>in chapter 20 of the Acts of <00:18:01.130>the Apostles, saying, speaking 00:18:03.490 --> 00:18:10.690 to the bishops and the priests, <00:18:05.680>from among your own cells <00:18:07.870>will arise those who seek to 00:18:10.690 --> 00:18:18.390 have the faithful follow them <00:18:13.500>and they will speak perverse and <00:18:15.680>contrary things to the gospel. 00:18:18.390 --> 00:18:24.940 So if St. Paul in Scripture tells us that <00:18:21.750>among the bishops, among the priests, 00:18:24.940 --> 00:18:27.930 there will come a time when... 00:18:27.930 --> 00:18:34.000 They will speak perverse <00:18:29.890>things which would be against <00:18:31.670>the Gospel, against Jesus Christ. 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:40.520 Why is it so strange that the Blessed <00:18:36.280>Virgin could say the same thing when <00:18:38.020>in fact it's happening before our eyes? 00:18:40.520 --> 00:18:49.490 His argument is completely void <00:18:43.690>of any content and that is the <00:18:46.090>profound nature of his analysis. 00:18:51.620 --> 00:18:55.600 As Chris Ferrara would say this morning, 00:18:55.600 --> 00:19:01.880 do you think the Blessed Virgin <00:18:57.730>would leave the interpretation of <00:18:59.470>the secret to Cardinal Bertoni? 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.990 Well, I can tell you someone else <00:19:03.810>could do a better job than that. 00:19:05.990 --> 00:19:09.180 This... 00:19:09.180 --> 00:19:17.240 is what's in the secret. <00:19:12.230>It's about the betrayal of <00:19:14.520>the faithful and of the faith, 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:24.290 and of Jesus Christ. Whether <00:19:19.750>this betrayal is intended or <00:19:21.830>whether it's by diabolical 00:19:24.290 --> 00:19:32.270 disorientation or some complete <00:19:26.870>ignorance, God knows. But <00:19:29.070>the betrayal is definite. 00:19:32.730 --> 00:19:39.950 We have the testimony of Bishop <00:19:35.640>Venancio in his pastoral <00:19:37.560>letter of July 25, 1966. 00:19:39.950 --> 00:19:43.360 Before I get to that I must answer a question. 00:19:43.360 --> 00:19:46.890 Is it right for me to say these things? 00:19:47.330 --> 00:19:51.650 Is it good for the faithful to hear such a thing? 00:19:51.650 --> 00:19:57.920 Even if it's true, will this do harm to the faithful? 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:04.050 I think we should address that question because... 00:20:04.050 --> 00:20:10.350 This is the dilemma that every <00:20:06.470>priest and most of them I <00:20:08.300>think make the wrong decision, 00:20:10.350 --> 00:20:16.690 but that's my opinion, I'm not <00:20:12.610>trying to judge anyone. But how <00:20:14.650>can you say these things and 00:20:16.690 --> 00:20:18.900 be faithful to the church and faithful to the church? 00:20:18.900 --> 00:20:24.720 to the Pope and faith and <00:20:20.850>love the Church and the <00:20:22.790>faithful. Are we against Cardinal 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:30.540 Bertoni as he says of himself? <00:20:26.510>He thinks that I personally am <00:20:28.290>against him. No, on the contrary. 00:20:30.540 --> 00:20:33.430 I pray for Cardinal Bertoni every day. 00:20:33.430 --> 00:20:37.490 I am not against Cardinal Bertoni as a person. 00:20:37.490 --> 00:20:40.570 I hope that he saves his soul. 00:20:40.570 --> 00:20:47.370 But it is of no use to Cardinal <00:20:43.380>Bertoni or to the Pope to <00:20:45.380>have sycophants around him 00:20:47.370 --> 00:20:52.850 congratulating him and telling <00:20:49.200>him that he's doing the right <00:20:51.020>thing when he's doing the 00:20:52.850 --> 00:20:54.530 absolutely wrong thing. 00:20:54.530 --> 00:21:02.310 Just as when I denounced the <00:20:57.540>Vatican Moscow agreement, which <00:20:59.920>was agreed to by Pope John 23rd, 00:21:02.310 --> 00:21:08.420 and which has been enforced ever <00:21:04.870>since, since 1962, to the present day. 00:21:08.420 --> 00:21:14.080 It is wrong for me to stand up <00:21:11.420>and say this is perfectly good. 00:21:14.080 --> 00:21:20.240 I'm not here to judge anyone. I have <00:21:17.320>enough sins on my own to worry about, 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:28.050 but it would be wrong for me, <00:21:22.870>as wrong for anyone else, to <00:21:25.170>call evil good and good evil. 00:21:28.050 --> 00:21:39.580 Scripture itself, at least in the <00:21:31.260>old consecration ceremony of the <00:21:33.900>bishops, they are admonished not to <00:21:36.540>call good evil, not to call evil good. 00:21:39.580 --> 00:21:47.770 That is our first obligation. Our <00:21:42.520>first obligation is to the truth <00:21:45.050>and then to speak the truth. 00:21:47.770 --> 00:21:55.720 And certainly about issues of <00:21:50.350>fundamental morality of good and evil, <00:21:52.730>we must speak and speak clearly. 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:59.600 And scripture itself says, both <00:21:57.880>of those who call evil good. 00:21:59.600 --> 00:22:08.210 Whoa, that's a God's warning, warning <00:22:02.360>anyone, Pope, bishop, priest, whoever, <00:22:04.960>to call evil good and good evil. 00:22:08.210 --> 00:22:12.880 It is not good to make an agreement with the enemy. 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:16.220 to not warn the faithful. 00:22:16.220 --> 00:22:23.410 Ezekiel tells us, in the book of <00:22:19.850>Ezekiel, God tells Ezekiel the prophet, 00:22:23.410 --> 00:22:26.330 I have appointed you watchman. 00:22:26.330 --> 00:22:32.000 Now if you, my watchman, are at the <00:22:29.430>watchtower at two o'clock in the morning, 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.850 and you see coming towards the city, 00:22:34.850 --> 00:22:41.870 the enemy, and you decide not to sound <00:22:38.480>the alarm, not to ring the bell, 00:22:41.870 --> 00:22:49.630 then God says to Ezekiel, <00:22:44.300>I will hold you personally <00:22:46.740>responsible for not speaking up. 00:22:49.630 --> 00:22:55.390 The watchman's duty is to warn the <00:22:52.740>faithful when the danger comes. 00:22:55.390 --> 00:22:57.210 That's what he's there for. 00:22:57.210 --> 00:23:01.450 It's a sacred duty which cannot be 00:23:01.450 --> 00:23:11.050 told to not be fulfilled by obedience, <00:23:04.800>by unity, by whatever other <00:23:07.910>title that they might appeal to, 00:23:11.050 --> 00:23:14.160 the watchman must sound the alarm. 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:19.170 Now the Vatican, the bishop's title comes <00:23:16.840>from the Greek which means watchman. 00:23:19.170 --> 00:23:24.780 The bishop is not allowed to remain <00:23:21.870>silent when he sees the danger coming. 00:23:24.780 --> 00:23:34.060 But yet the Vatican made a deal <00:23:28.130>with Moscow not to denounce <00:23:30.910>the evil of communism in 1962. 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:43.600 It was the terms were laid down <00:23:37.480>by Nikadim, the second in command <00:23:40.540>of the KGB patriarch of Moscow, 00:23:43.600 --> 00:23:52.020 to not sound the alarm. We will not <00:23:46.410>send observers from the Russian <00:23:49.220>Orthodox Church unless you agree 00:23:52.020 --> 00:23:55.130 not to sound the alarm against communism. 00:23:55.130 --> 00:24:02.830 The observers came when the next <00:23:58.150>day the agreement was sealed and <00:24:00.250>that has been followed ever since. 00:24:02.830 --> 00:24:08.860 I still remember reading <00:24:05.070>these tragic pages of Father <00:24:06.830>Maliki Martin on the Jesuits. 00:24:08.860 --> 00:24:10.320 The book opens 00:24:10.320 --> 00:24:16.300 with some Jesuit priest in Salvador or <00:24:13.360>Nicaragua, someplace like that, in which 00:24:16.300 --> 00:24:21.620 this Jesuit priest, who <00:24:18.070>apparently had some talent <00:24:19.840>for military escapades, had a 00:24:21.620 --> 00:24:24.340 band of 90 men which he commanded. 00:24:24.340 --> 00:24:30.650 in which he led into battle <00:24:26.540>and was quite successful for a <00:24:28.590>while as far as his objectives were. 00:24:30.650 --> 00:24:37.750 But the day the battle opens, the <00:24:33.030>picture opens when this Catholic <00:24:35.390>priest, thinking he's serving God, 00:24:37.750 --> 00:24:46.680 thinking he's serving the cause of <00:24:39.910>the gospel, is shot and killed by <00:24:42.060>the Salvadorian general who finally <00:24:44.220>figured out how to defeat him. 00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:50.450 And all of this takes place because <00:24:48.610>the Vatican-Moscow agreement 00:24:50.450 --> 00:24:58.730 hid from this seminary <00:24:53.360>and from Chicago that the <00:24:56.050>communism was intrinsically evil 00:24:58.730 --> 00:25:04.210 and that this was part of the <00:25:00.380>Vatican-Musical Agreement <00:25:02.030>to not say these things. 00:25:04.210 --> 00:25:12.790 The error has real consequences and <00:25:08.390>these consequences can be lethal. 00:25:12.790 --> 00:25:18.290 They were lethal for the men he killed, <00:25:15.420>they were lethal for him himself. 00:25:18.860 --> 00:25:25.910 And so, is it right for us to <00:25:22.720>maintain silence about these things? 00:25:25.910 --> 00:25:29.840 Because it's going to cause some scandal. 00:25:29.840 --> 00:25:33.400 It's going to upset the faithful. 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:39.410 Some faithful might be tempted <00:25:35.560>to leave the church or not <00:25:37.400>practice their faith anymore. 00:25:39.410 --> 00:25:43.670 That is not the intention of any of this. 00:25:43.670 --> 00:25:51.420 But as Pope Felix said, it <00:25:46.370>is better that scandal arise <00:25:48.390>than the truth be suppressed. 00:25:51.490 --> 00:25:56.040 The truth is primordial. 00:25:56.040 --> 00:26:04.040 And the message of already Fatima <00:25:58.970>who came to pronounce this truth <00:26:01.080>for us for our day is primordial. 00:26:04.040 --> 00:26:11.630 If someone wants to know how they <00:26:07.140>can both maintain their fidelity <00:26:09.390>to the church, which I have done, 00:26:11.630 --> 00:26:13.000 along with 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:19.780 Knowing the truth that Our Lady is <00:26:14.890>telling to give us, if you have <00:26:16.510>a difficulty with that, I would <00:26:18.130>be happy to answer your questions. 00:26:19.780 --> 00:26:24.450 It is certainly not the intention <00:26:21.300>to have anyone be scandalized <00:26:22.790>to not practice their faith. 00:26:24.450 --> 00:26:37.190 But it's not my intention to hide the <00:26:27.520>truth in order that we have a day <00:26:30.410>of peace today and have the day of <00:26:33.300>reckoning tomorrow twice as bad or worse. 00:26:38.150 --> 00:26:45.530 The testimony of Bishop Venancio in his <00:26:41.840>pastoral letter of July 25th, 1966. 00:26:46.060 --> 00:26:50.940 Panama cannot be reduced to sensational prophecies of 00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:57.780 ritual wars. I'd like to first <00:26:53.220>add there's no intention to <00:26:55.500>reduce it to that, but it's 00:26:57.780 --> 00:27:00.990 important to understand that there are consequences in 00:27:00.990 --> 00:27:08.480 including the Frightful Wars. But <00:27:03.490>these Frightful Wars come from <00:27:05.980>the disobedience to, and the 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:14.020 lack of knowledge of, Our <00:27:10.320>Lady's Message. We can't of <00:27:12.170>course obey the Message if we 00:27:14.020 --> 00:27:15.200 don't know it. 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:20.060 And for those who know it and <00:27:17.020>choose to not obey it, we at <00:27:18.540>least have to tell others who 00:27:20.060 --> 00:27:21.250 are willing to listen. 00:27:21.250 --> 00:27:26.120 And yes, it will lead to frightful <00:27:23.640>wars and they will be sensational. 00:27:26.120 --> 00:27:31.420 But it's not to be reduced to <00:27:27.900>that and I'll be the first <00:27:29.380>to agree with the bishop. 00:27:31.420 --> 00:27:35.530 We affirm that freedom is something <00:27:33.670>much more serious than that. 00:27:35.530 --> 00:27:37.810 Prideful wars are very serious. 00:27:37.810 --> 00:27:41.730 The salvation of souls is even much more serious. 00:27:41.730 --> 00:27:48.650 Panama really, in this too, <00:27:44.380>actualizes the whole evangelical <00:27:46.520>meaning of a church, launched 00:27:48.650 --> 00:27:55.070 eschatologically towards the <00:27:50.790>future, which is to be most <00:27:52.930>assuredly in God's hands, for 00:27:55.070 --> 00:27:58.260 which is continually threatened by the mystery of iniquity. 00:27:58.260 --> 00:28:04.550 And yes, this mystery of iniquity <00:28:00.580>is already at work, as St. Paul <00:28:02.560>tells us in 2 Thessalonians, 00:28:04.550 --> 00:28:06.320 chapter 2, verse 7. 00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:12.320 Of course this mystery of iniquity <00:28:08.540>is something that each one <00:28:10.430>of us every day deals with. 00:28:12.320 --> 00:28:14.900 Most of you don't even know that. 00:28:14.900 --> 00:28:19.380 If any of you carries a <00:28:16.840>wallet and you have a piece <00:28:18.110>of paper called Money in it, 00:28:19.380 --> 00:28:21.730 you are dealing with the mystery of iniquity. 00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:27.160 And it is their control over <00:28:23.940>money that controls how <00:28:25.530>they do things in the world. 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.290 That itself is a whole other discourse. 00:28:30.290 --> 00:28:33.880 But the mystery of iniquity is at work. 00:28:34.420 --> 00:28:45.120 Father Joseph Alonzo, Joe Aquino <00:28:38.650>rather, Alonzo, the official <00:28:41.890>archive of the Fatima from 1965 00:28:45.120 --> 00:28:49.860 until his death in 1981, he had <00:28:47.160>access to Sister Lucy herself. 00:28:49.860 --> 00:28:55.040 This is what he has to say about <00:28:52.470>the text of the Third Secret. 00:28:55.040 --> 00:28:56.270 Quote, 00:28:56.270 --> 00:29:04.240 It is therefore completely probable that <00:28:58.970>the text makes concrete references to <00:29:01.370>the crisis of faith within the church, 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:08.460 and to the negligence of the pastors themselves, 00:29:08.460 --> 00:29:12.370 and the internal struggles in the very bosom of the church, 00:29:12.370 --> 00:29:16.330 and a grave pastoral negligence by the upper hierarchy. 00:29:17.180 --> 00:29:25.190 Sister Lucy was quite capable <00:29:20.390>of correcting any false <00:29:22.590>understanding of the Third Secret. 00:29:25.190 --> 00:29:29.450 She never corrected Father Alonso on this. 00:29:29.450 --> 00:29:33.230 You can be pretty certain that this is in the secret. 00:29:33.230 --> 00:29:38.390 It is therefore completely <00:29:35.410>probable that the text makes <00:29:36.900>concrete references to the crisis 00:29:38.390 --> 00:29:47.510 of faith within the Church, and <00:29:41.430>to the negligence of the pastors <00:29:44.470>themselves, and to the internal 00:29:47.510 --> 00:29:53.190 struggles and the very bosom <00:29:49.410>of the Church, and the grave <00:29:51.300>pastoral negligence by the upper 00:29:53.190 --> 00:29:59.030 hierarchy, meaning bishops, <00:29:55.930>archbishops, and cardinals, no doubt. 00:29:59.030 --> 00:30:06.090 In the period preceding the great <00:30:01.520>triumph of the Immaculate Heart of <00:30:03.660>Mary, terrible things are to happen. 00:30:06.090 --> 00:30:11.100 These form the content of the third <00:30:08.500>part of the secret. What are they? 00:30:11.100 --> 00:30:17.240 If in Portugal the dogma of faith <00:30:13.470>will always be preserved, it <00:30:15.360>can be clearly deduced from this 00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:23.320 that in other parts of the <00:30:18.940>church these dogmas are going to <00:30:20.630>become obscure or even lost altogether. 00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:32.580 The church goes to great trouble to define Catholic dogma, 00:30:32.580 --> 00:30:39.370 but for the last 40 years, <00:30:35.380>it appears that most people <00:30:37.260>don't even know what dogma is. 00:30:39.370 --> 00:30:45.960 or that it is infallible, that it <00:30:42.780>cannot fail, that it is certainly true, 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:54.860 and that anyone who has an opinion, <00:30:48.880>whether he be a simple layperson, a <00:30:51.800>priest, a bishop, a cardinal or a pope, 00:30:54.860 --> 00:30:59.970 it doesn't matter. No one can contradict dogma. 00:30:59.970 --> 00:31:03.470 Dogma is what it is, is the... 00:31:03.470 --> 00:31:12.000 the definition, the putting in a <00:31:06.760>few words, what it is the church <00:31:09.270>teaches on a certain point. 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:19.320 This dogma cannot change because <00:31:14.420>our Lord Jesus Christ cannot <00:31:16.630>change. The truth cannot change. 00:31:19.320 --> 00:31:26.430 If it is true as it is that there <00:31:21.930>are three persons in the best of <00:31:24.060>trinity in the first year of salvation, 00:31:26.430 --> 00:31:30.880 in the beginning of the Gospel, it is <00:31:28.580>also true two thousand years later. 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:37.810 If it is true that Jesus Christ <00:31:33.450>is true God and true man in <00:31:35.630>year 325 when it's defined 00:31:37.810 --> 00:31:42.710 as it was at the beginning of <00:31:39.440>the Gospel, of the proclamation <00:31:41.080>of the Gospel, it is also 00:31:42.710 --> 00:31:43.780 true today. 00:31:43.780 --> 00:31:56.800 It is true that Mary is the <00:31:46.540>mother of God, that is, that she <00:31:48.880>is the mother of the second person <00:31:51.220>of the Blessed Trinity, and that <00:31:53.560>she is his mother, is true today. 00:31:56.800 --> 00:32:07.820 We cannot change dogma from one <00:32:00.740>year to another, and yet the whole <00:32:03.780>modernist mindset is that dogma can change. 00:32:08.180 --> 00:32:16.600 And that is what has invaded the <00:32:11.590>church, and that is what has invaded <00:32:14.000>even so-called apostles of Fatima, 00:32:16.600 --> 00:32:23.330 thinking that the Blessed Virgin can <00:32:18.860>say one thing, and she means the <00:32:20.920>opposite after a hundred years. 00:32:23.330 --> 00:32:27.740 She doesn't mean the opposite, <00:32:24.700>she means the same as what <00:32:25.720>she said at the beginning. 00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:39.870 Father Alonso continues, does <00:32:35.590>the unpublished text speak <00:32:37.550>of concrete circumstances? 00:32:39.870 --> 00:32:47.000 It is very possible that it speaks <00:32:42.480>not only of a real crisis of faith in <00:32:44.730>the Church during this in-between period, 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:53.290 but like the secret of that, for example, <00:32:49.030>there are more concrete references to <00:32:51.040>the internal struggles of Catholics, 00:32:53.290 --> 00:32:55.920 or to the fall of priests and religious. 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.870 Perhaps it even refers to the failure <00:32:57.960>of the upper hierarchy of the Church. 00:32:59.870 --> 00:33:06.230 For that matter, none of this is <00:33:01.950>formed to other communications <00:33:03.740>Sister Lucy has had on the subject. 00:33:06.230 --> 00:33:13.160 So it talks about the Vatican, <00:33:09.000>as Cardinal Chappie tells us, <00:33:11.080>it talks about the failures 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:18.460 of the Upper hierarchy, it <00:33:14.590>talks about the failures of <00:33:16.030>everyone else for that matter. 00:33:18.840 --> 00:33:24.540 This secret, above all, concerns the <00:33:22.130>Church and the practice of the faith. 00:33:24.540 --> 00:33:26.240 That is for certain. 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:30.540 Of course, it doesn't stop there. <00:33:28.310>It also tells us the consequences. 00:33:30.540 --> 00:33:33.670 Some people are not too concerned about losing their soul, 00:33:33.670 --> 00:33:39.290 but they are concerned about <00:33:35.340>losing their house or losing <00:33:36.850>their lives in the next war. 00:33:39.290 --> 00:33:49.860 Both these things are related <00:33:43.440>that if we do not build our <00:33:46.650>lives on the gospel, on the 00:33:49.860 --> 00:33:54.120 foundation of the gospel, then our lives themselves will be 00:33:54.120 --> 00:34:01.240 will fail. As the Lord said, <00:33:56.850>building his house, if you <00:33:59.050>don't build your house on the 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:06.800 rock of his church and his <00:34:03.090>teaching, then your house will <00:34:04.950>fail, will fall when the storms 00:34:06.800 --> 00:34:08.160 come. 00:34:08.180 --> 00:34:17.420 In 1980 Pope John Paul II spoke <00:34:11.600>to a group of Catholics in <00:34:14.020>Fulda, Germany on November 1980. 00:34:17.420 --> 00:34:22.450 It was reported in the Steemendeglabens, <00:34:20.240>the Voice of the Faith, in 1981. 00:34:22.450 --> 00:34:30.180 And Father Kramer, you could ask him <00:34:25.280>because he has been and was pastor <00:34:27.730>of a church not far from there and 00:34:30.180 --> 00:34:37.900 he has read two separate texts of <00:34:32.590>this from two separate sources. <00:34:35.000>They both agree word for word. 00:34:37.900 --> 00:34:42.330 Here's what the Holy Father said about the secret. 00:34:42.330 --> 00:34:44.840 The only Father was then asked, 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.910 what is going to happen to the church? 00:34:46.910 --> 00:34:49.390 He answered, we must prepare ourselves 00:34:49.390 --> 00:34:52.020 to suffer great trials before long, 00:34:52.020 --> 00:34:54.970 such as will demand of us a disposition 00:34:54.970 --> 00:34:57.670 to give up even life and a total dedication 00:34:57.670 --> 00:34:59.720 to Christ and for Christ. 00:34:59.720 --> 00:35:05.290 With your and my prayer it is <00:35:01.720>possible to mitigate the tribulation, <00:35:03.330>but is no longer possible to avert it 00:35:05.290 --> 00:35:08.090 Because only thus can the church be effectively renewed 00:35:08.090 --> 00:35:13.790 How many times has the renewal of <00:35:09.990>the church sprung from blood this <00:35:11.890>time too it will not be otherwise 00:35:13.790 --> 00:35:21.550 We must be strong and prepared to <00:35:16.040>trust in Christ his mother and be <00:35:18.290>very assiduous in praying the rosary 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.300 I think the Pope made a mistake when he said, 00:35:28.300 --> 00:35:32.930 it cannot be averted, but obviously <00:35:30.410>he's read the secret, I have not. 00:35:32.930 --> 00:35:38.040 In any case, the people will not <00:35:35.190>wake up unless they know the text. 00:35:38.470 --> 00:35:47.860 for 35 years, very poorly, <00:35:42.240>and even though we're on <00:35:45.010>television around the world now, 00:35:47.860 --> 00:35:53.660 it doesn't wake people up like the <00:35:50.460>words of the Blessed Virgin Will. 00:35:53.660 --> 00:36:01.900 I can deduce, I can explain, I can <00:35:56.640>give you the testimony of many <00:35:58.950>people who have read the secret. 00:36:01.900 --> 00:36:07.760 But it's not as convincing as <00:36:04.780>hearing her own words for yourself. 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:12.830 I believe that when her text is <00:36:10.430>released, her own words are released. 00:36:12.830 --> 00:36:19.570 People will recognize instinctively <00:36:15.300>that only the Blessed Virgin <00:36:17.310>could have said these things. 00:36:19.570 --> 00:36:27.790 And there will go a grace with these <00:36:22.130>words that will touch people's hearts <00:36:24.460>in a way that nothing else will. 00:36:28.020 --> 00:36:38.080 It's unfortunate that Pope John <00:36:31.230>Paul II, as well as Benedict, <00:36:33.430>who wanted to release the secret <00:36:35.640>according to Cardinal Mr. Sochi, 00:36:38.080 --> 00:36:43.550 they both wanted to release <00:36:39.850>the secret, but they were both <00:36:41.390>dissuaded by their councillors. 00:36:43.550 --> 00:36:54.510 So when we say what can we do, <00:36:46.690>we must realize that each one of <00:36:49.200>you knows someone who knows someone <00:36:51.700>who is a counselor to the Pope. 00:36:54.510 --> 00:36:58.700 Some of you may be counselors <00:36:56.570>yourselves, I don't know that. 00:36:58.700 --> 00:37:11.850 But the Pope has got bad counsel, <00:37:01.420>and as a result against his better <00:37:03.780>judgment, both this Pope and the <00:37:06.140>previous Pope have followed the bad <00:37:08.490>counsel of not releasing the secret. 00:37:12.810 --> 00:37:20.990 Sister Lucy, in a letter of May the <00:37:16.200>12th, 1982, it was published by the <00:37:18.590>Vatican themselves on June 26th. 00:37:20.990 --> 00:37:24.470 It's in their little books, they <00:37:22.440>called the Message of Fatima. 00:37:24.470 --> 00:37:28.180 Here's what Sister Lucy says about the secret. 00:37:28.180 --> 00:37:33.030 The third part of the secret refers to Our Lady's words, 00:37:33.030 --> 00:37:39.130 If not, Russia will spread her heirs <00:37:35.300>throughout the world, causing wars <00:37:37.120>and persecutions against the Church. 00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:44.770 The good will be martyred, the Holy <00:37:40.810>Father will have much to suffer, <00:37:42.290>various nations will be annihilated. 00:37:47.230 --> 00:37:53.140 She tells us that we have not yet <00:37:50.470>seen the fulfillment of this secret, 00:37:53.140 --> 00:37:58.440 and that we are going towards it with great strides. 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:03.260 We continue with Cardinal with <00:38:01.030>Brother Bishop Cosmo de Amorale. 00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:05.840 The previous Bishop of Fatima was Bishop Financio. 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:11.780 Now here you have Bishop Alberto <00:38:08.520>Cosmo de Amorale, September 10, 1984. 00:38:11.780 --> 00:38:17.550 During a question and answer session <00:38:14.040>at the Technical University in <00:38:15.600>Vienna, this is what he said. 00:38:17.550 --> 00:38:25.570 The secret of Fatima speaks neither <00:38:20.360>of atomic bombs nor nuclear warheads <00:38:22.770>nor perishing missiles nor SS-20s. 00:38:25.570 --> 00:38:28.410 His content concerns only our faith. 00:38:28.410 --> 00:38:36.470 To identify the secret with <00:38:30.550>catastrophic announcements over <00:38:32.400>the nuclear holocaust is to deform <00:38:34.240>the meaning of the message. 00:38:36.470 --> 00:38:40.540 The loss of faith of a continent is <00:38:38.580>worse than the annihilation of a nation, 00:38:40.540 --> 00:38:44.780 and it is true that the faith is <00:38:42.490>continually diminishing in Europe. 00:38:44.780 --> 00:38:54.440 Now, it's true that the loss of <00:38:48.180>faith of a continent is worse <00:38:51.000>than the annihilation of a nation. 00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:03.090 But the secret of Fatima does talk <00:38:57.730>about, whether it's perishing <00:39:00.410>missiles or SS-20s or something else, 00:39:03.090 --> 00:39:06.820 it does talk about the consequences of... 00:39:06.820 --> 00:39:09.570 Annihilation, that's in the second part of the secret. 00:39:09.570 --> 00:39:13.790 And it does talk about material <00:39:11.110>consequences as well, as <00:39:12.260>Cardinal Ratzinger has told us. 00:39:13.790 --> 00:39:17.390 It concerns the dangers to the faith <00:39:15.550>and to the life of the Christian. 00:39:17.390 --> 00:39:19.750 Obviously it speaks about these things. 00:39:19.750 --> 00:39:25.060 But he is right in emphasizing that the <00:39:22.220>spiritual consequences are much worse. 00:39:25.060 --> 00:39:35.740 And both Pope John Paul II and Benedict <00:39:28.990>have spoken about the apostasy, <00:39:32.360>the sign of apostasy in Europe. 00:39:35.740 --> 00:39:39.460 It's not only in Europe, but it is in Europe also. 00:39:39.460 --> 00:39:45.740 Apostasy itself is spoken about in the secret. 00:39:48.070 --> 00:39:55.210 Carl Ratzinger in 1984 on <00:39:51.060>November 11th in his article <00:39:53.050>published in the Jesus magazine. 00:39:55.210 --> 00:40:01.520 I still have a copy of this. I <00:39:57.130>bought it and I locked it up in my <00:39:58.900>archives and have it to this day. 00:40:01.520 --> 00:40:07.830 He was asked about the third secret. <00:40:04.990>He was asked, have you read it? 00:40:07.830 --> 00:40:11.460 And Cardinal Ratzinger answered, yes, I have read it. 00:40:11.460 --> 00:40:17.860 So the interviewer, the journalist asked <00:40:14.500>him, why has it not been revealed? 00:40:17.860 --> 00:40:21.720 Here's Cardinal Ratzinger's very instructive answer. 00:40:21.720 --> 00:40:32.970 Because according to the <00:40:24.340>judgment of the Popes, it adds <00:40:26.360>nothing, literally nothing different to <00:40:28.370>what a Christian must know concerning <00:40:30.390>what derives from revelation. 00:40:32.970 --> 00:40:44.340 A radical call for conversion, the <00:40:35.640>absolute importance of history, the <00:40:37.730>dangers threatening the faith and <00:40:39.820>the life of the Christian and <00:40:41.910>therefore the life of the world. 00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:49.300 and then the importance of the <00:40:46.680>last things of the univisimi. 00:40:49.300 --> 00:40:52.750 If it is not made public, at least for the time being, 00:40:52.750 --> 00:40:54.900 it is ordered to prevent religious prophecy 00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:58.280 from being mistaken for a quest for the sensational. 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.840 But the things contained in this third secret 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:04.960 correspond to what has been announced in sacred scripture. 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.680 and what has been said again and again <00:41:07.380>in many other Marian apparitions. 00:41:09.680 --> 00:41:14.730 First of all, that of Fatima, <00:41:11.520>in which is already known, <00:41:12.900>and what the message contains. 00:41:14.730 --> 00:41:19.910 Convergent and penitence are the <00:41:17.060>essential conditions for salvation. 00:41:19.910 --> 00:41:27.650 Here we have, almost books have <00:41:23.090>been written on this little <00:41:25.300>passage by Cardinal Ratzinger. 00:41:27.650 --> 00:41:31.760 From Michel devotes pages to it <00:41:29.350>in his book, The Third Secret. 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:38.220 We have articles by Fr. Joseph <00:41:34.140>C. Marie. Here's what it brought <00:41:35.680>to my attention, first of all. 00:41:38.770 --> 00:41:43.410 It concerns the absolute importance of history. 00:41:43.410 --> 00:41:46.630 It's contained in sacred scripture. 00:41:46.660 --> 00:41:55.860 What is contained in sacred scripture, <00:41:50.060>it refers to Inovissimi, the <00:41:52.460>last things at the end of time. 00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:04.990 It's unfortunate that because <00:41:59.730>this message is sensational, <00:42:02.140>it's not been released. 00:42:04.990 --> 00:42:10.510 The very nature of prophecy almost <00:42:07.570>always is to be sensational. 00:42:10.510 --> 00:42:17.870 When Jeremiah in the Old <00:42:13.360>Testament was not getting the <00:42:15.400>attention of the people of Jerusalem, 00:42:17.870 --> 00:42:21.460 Jeremiah went up to the wall of Jerusalem 00:42:21.460 --> 00:42:25.480 He took a hammer out and broke down the wall. 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.970 And he said, this is the place where the <00:42:28.220>Assyrians are going to come through. 00:42:30.970 --> 00:42:35.600 Now to break the wall of a walled city is a crime. 00:42:35.600 --> 00:42:42.660 But yet Jeremiah decided the <00:42:38.270>only way to get their intention <00:42:40.460>was to commit this civil crime 00:42:42.660 --> 00:42:47.160 in order to get their attention <00:42:43.820>and say, this is what's <00:42:44.990>going to happen to the city. 00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:52.910 And the priest said, don't listen <00:42:50.350>to him, he's causing disunity. 00:42:52.910 --> 00:42:55.170 Does that sound familiar? 00:42:55.170 --> 00:42:57.170 Don't listen to him. 00:42:57.170 --> 00:42:59.950 But unfortunately they didn't listen to him, 00:42:59.950 --> 00:43:06.470 and just as Jeremiah said, the city was <00:43:02.710>carried off in captivity for 40 years. 00:43:06.980 --> 00:43:13.820 But Jeremiah was instructed <00:43:09.690>to be sensational in order to <00:43:11.390>get the people's attention. 00:43:13.820 --> 00:43:20.780 Similarly, the message of Adam <00:43:16.560>is sensational because when you <00:43:18.580>have the annihilation of nations, 00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:25.520 when two-thirds of seven billion people, <00:43:23.240>or approximately four billion people, 00:43:25.520 --> 00:43:28.360 are annihilated, wiped off the face of the earth, 00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:33.080 when the living will end be the dead, <00:43:30.840>because that's how desolate it will be, 00:43:33.080 --> 00:43:39.540 Is it not better to tell people <00:43:35.320>now so they can do something about <00:43:37.430>it than to hide it from them 00:43:39.540 --> 00:43:44.020 so we all walk blindfolded into this abyss? 00:43:44.020 --> 00:43:52.220 And what if it is sensational? Maybe <00:43:47.100>people might just pay attention, <00:43:49.240>long enough to do something about it. 00:43:52.220 --> 00:44:01.440 But the popes have been either <00:43:55.730>threatened or cajoled or counselled <00:43:58.390>into not listening to Our Lady. 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:08.250 It really is a tragedy and we are part <00:44:04.540>of that tragedy not having the secret. 00:44:08.630 --> 00:44:17.220 But all this comes not because of the <00:44:12.060>material chastisement, they come <00:44:14.490>as a result of the loss of faith, 00:44:17.220 --> 00:44:22.290 of the loss of fervor, the loss <00:44:19.560>of the practice of the faith. 00:44:22.290 --> 00:44:27.080 And yes, the more important element <00:44:24.780>is the loss of their souls. 00:44:27.080 --> 00:44:33.290 But this could be avoided, or <00:44:29.140>much of it could be avoided, <00:44:30.710>if we would release the secret. 00:44:36.600 --> 00:44:45.230 Carlo Orti, speaking to the <00:44:40.060>Italian journalist Lucillo <00:44:42.520>Brunelli in Sabato in 1990, 00:44:45.230 --> 00:44:48.800 tells us what the secret has to do with. 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:51.490 The third secret has nothing to do with Gorbachev. 00:44:51.490 --> 00:44:55.500 The method virgin was alerting <00:44:53.400>us to apostasy in the church. 00:44:55.500 --> 00:45:03.180 Which brings us to the quote from <00:44:58.430>Cardinal Chappi, which Father <00:45:00.810>Murra here who provided it for us, 00:45:03.180 --> 00:45:06.760 in a letter to Professor Baumgartner, he writes, 00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.920 I mentioned Cardinal Chappi is a paper. 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.980 personal theologian to five popes, 00:45:13.980 --> 00:45:20.760 Pius XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II. 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:25.350 He was papal theologian for close to 40 years. 00:45:25.860 --> 00:45:35.150 So when we read what he has to <00:45:29.560>say, his words are very precise. <00:45:32.260>He talks about the great apostasy. 00:45:35.150 --> 00:45:39.990 There's only one great apostasy <00:45:37.540>spoken about in sacred scripture, 00:45:39.990 --> 00:45:45.380 the great apostasy that occurs <00:45:42.450>before the coming of the Antichrist. 00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:52.410 So here you have a trained theologian <00:45:49.080>considered premier among the theologians, 00:45:52.410 --> 00:45:55.790 And this is what he says about the third secret. 00:45:55.790 --> 00:45:59.090 It's very brief words, but very full of meaning. 00:45:59.090 --> 00:46:06.220 In the third secret it is <00:46:01.660>foretold, among other things, <00:46:03.940>that the great apostasy in the 00:46:06.220 --> 00:46:10.000 church will begin at the top. 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:15.680 Here's a Vatican insider telling <00:46:12.370>us that the apostasy in <00:46:14.020>the church starts from the 00:46:15.680 --> 00:46:17.080 Vatican. 00:46:17.580 --> 00:46:23.540 That's in the secret. That's why <00:46:20.560>up to now it's not been released. 00:46:23.640 --> 00:46:31.430 Now does it please me to say these things? <00:46:26.860>No, but the truth is more important <00:46:29.080>than whether it pleases me or not. 00:46:31.430 --> 00:46:33.850 And it's more important to you. 00:46:33.850 --> 00:46:36.480 Because without the truth... 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:47.910 We will misjudge others, we will <00:46:39.680>make the wrong decisions, and <00:46:42.210>we will possibly damn ourselves <00:46:44.750>if we don't pay attention. 00:46:47.910 --> 00:46:59.470 Father Malachi Martin, in 1998, I knew <00:46:52.050>Father Martin not well, but I did know <00:46:55.560>him, and he read the secret himself, 00:46:59.470 --> 00:47:02.950 and he was on the radio just before he died. 00:47:02.950 --> 00:47:13.040 And he said that I cannot tell you <00:47:05.650>the secret, but I will answer, if <00:47:08.020>anyone tells me what it is, I will <00:47:10.390>confirm that it is the true secret. 00:47:13.040 --> 00:47:16.120 Because I cannot deny the truth. 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:20.320 own training that he had to tell the truth. 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.730 And if somebody said, is this the <00:47:21.840>secret, he would tell you what it was. 00:47:23.730 --> 00:47:27.550 So one caller, this is a four hour telephone program, 00:47:27.550 --> 00:47:31.340 they have more than a million <00:47:29.180>people who listen to this program. 00:47:31.340 --> 00:47:38.960 And I know that because I was on <00:47:33.920>that program and we had 900,000 hits <00:47:35.940>in one day just from that program. 00:47:39.110 --> 00:47:47.010 So on the Art Bell Show in 1998, <00:47:42.350>Malachi Martin is on the phone, <00:47:44.580>rather in person in the studio, 00:47:47.010 --> 00:47:55.400 and he's saying, first of all, <00:47:49.130>he spends about 15 minutes <00:47:51.050>talking about what heresy is, what <00:47:52.970>schism is, and what apostasy is. 00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:00.810 He's trying to tell us, without <00:47:57.420>actually saying it, the third <00:47:58.930>secret is about apostasy. 00:48:00.810 --> 00:48:05.960 Why would he spend so long <00:48:02.660>talking about apostasy if it <00:48:04.130>wasn't relevant to his topic? 00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:15.300 The second thing he talks about in <00:48:08.490>this program among others is that <00:48:10.650>since the Second Vatican Council, again <00:48:12.810>a key word talking about the council, 00:48:15.300 --> 00:48:18.760 he says that the priests have changed. 00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:24.590 the importance of the primary purpose of marriage. 00:48:24.590 --> 00:48:29.520 The primary purpose of marriage is the <00:48:27.000>procreation and education of children. 00:48:29.520 --> 00:48:35.240 The secondary purpose is the mutual <00:48:32.410>consolation of the husband and wife. 00:48:35.240 --> 00:48:38.910 and that the priests have made these two equal. 00:48:38.910 --> 00:48:42.470 As a result of that, they have perverted marriage, 00:48:42.470 --> 00:48:46.420 and we've seen the disaster in <00:48:44.430>Catholic marriage since then. 00:48:46.420 --> 00:48:48.620 That's also in the secret. 00:48:48.620 --> 00:48:51.730 He doesn't say so because no one asks him, 00:48:51.730 --> 00:48:53.760 but he focuses on apostasy, 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:55.530 he focuses on contraception, 00:48:55.530 --> 00:48:58.540 he focuses on the primary purpose of marriage. 00:48:58.540 --> 00:49:01.050 All of that is spoken about in the secret. 00:49:01.050 --> 00:49:10.220 Here's what he has to say when asked <00:49:05.730>a direct question about the secret. 00:49:10.220 --> 00:49:14.780 In response to the quotation <00:49:12.090>that a Pope would be under the <00:49:13.440>control of Satan, he replied 00:49:14.780 --> 00:49:19.660 it, yes, it sounds as if they were <00:49:17.130>reading the text of the third secret. 00:49:19.660 --> 00:49:22.440 That is truly sensational. 00:49:23.700 --> 00:49:32.470 Malachi went on to say that when <00:49:27.010>the secret was released, the <00:49:29.310>Catholic churches would be full. 00:49:32.470 --> 00:49:36.180 That the faithful would be filling the church 00:49:36.180 --> 00:49:45.320 on their knees, beating their <00:49:39.170>breasts, and the confession <00:49:41.860>lines would be very long. 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:52.660 Obviously the third secret will be <00:49:48.270>something that will not only refer to <00:49:50.460>the Vatican and the bishops and the pope 00:49:52.660 --> 00:49:56.910 and the priests, it will also refer to the laypeople. 00:49:56.910 --> 00:50:03.810 We'd also know from the <00:49:59.670>testimony of Mother Godino, she <00:50:01.740>was the mother superior of the 00:50:03.810 --> 00:50:10.900 orphanage that took Jacinta in before <00:50:06.990>she died on February 20th, 1920. 00:50:10.900 --> 00:50:18.910 Jacinta stayed there for two weeks <00:50:13.870>and Mother Godinio told us that <00:50:16.120>Jacinta told her the third secret. 00:50:18.910 --> 00:50:25.480 Now generally her testimony has <00:50:21.470>been challenged because she put <00:50:23.480>some exaggerations in there. 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.490 But there's part which to me, in <00:50:27.760>light of all this, is very authentic. 00:50:30.490 --> 00:50:38.490 Which is that this disaster comes <00:50:33.300>upon the church because the <00:50:35.650>faithful do not obey the Pope. 00:50:38.490 --> 00:50:46.410 Now, some people taking advantage <00:50:40.780>of this passage think that it <00:50:42.590>refers to their obedience to <00:50:44.400>not going to the Latin Mass. 00:50:46.410 --> 00:50:54.000 Of course, that was false from the <00:50:48.350>beginning, and Pope Benedict just <00:50:50.080>pointed out that the Latin Mass, the <00:50:51.820>Tridentine Mass, was never forbidden. 00:50:54.000 --> 00:51:00.210 What is this disobedience that <00:50:56.340>the faithful are doing, which <00:50:58.220>they are not obeying the Pope? 00:51:00.210 --> 00:51:03.610 That is, the disobedience with regard to contraception. 00:51:03.610 --> 00:51:06.110 It is obvious 00:51:06.110 --> 00:51:12.690 that the Catholic faithful, <00:51:08.760>not all of them certainly, <00:51:10.730>but by the very fact that 00:51:12.690 --> 00:51:13.750 the 00:51:13.750 --> 00:51:20.090 number of children had by Catholic <00:51:16.990>couples today is equal to what the rest 00:51:20.090 --> 00:51:25.130 of the Protestantized world follows shows <00:51:22.610>that many of the Catholic faithful 00:51:25.130 --> 00:51:30.500 have been misled into thinking that <00:51:27.650>contraception is perfectly legitimate. 00:51:30.500 --> 00:51:38.130 This is the disobedience that leads to <00:51:34.480>the punishment of the bad priests that 00:51:38.130 --> 00:51:41.180 St. John Hughes talks about. 00:51:41.180 --> 00:51:46.700 And this is at least the fall of the <00:51:44.060>Catholic priests which Lucy talks about. 00:51:46.700 --> 00:51:48.750 It's all in the third secret. 00:51:48.750 --> 00:51:54.660 When you finally have it published, <00:51:50.960>you will recognize the history <00:51:52.810>of the past 40, 50 years 00:51:54.660 --> 00:52:01.680 as what was predicted and <00:51:56.670>could have been avoided had we <00:51:58.680>listened to Our Lady in time. 00:52:03.140 --> 00:52:08.610 The Confessions will be full, <00:52:05.540>the churches will be full, <00:52:06.940>and they were on their knees. 00:52:08.610 --> 00:52:17.680 This is something that didn't happen with <00:52:11.480>the release of the part about the shooting <00:52:14.080>of the Pope by a band of soldiers. 00:52:20.240 --> 00:52:30.830 In 1998, Cardinal Redzinger spoke <00:52:24.290>to the former ambassador of <00:52:27.350>the Philippines to the Vatican. 00:52:30.830 --> 00:52:36.470 And he asked him about Panama and <00:52:33.850>Akita, and Cardinal Ratzinger replied, 00:52:36.470 --> 00:52:38.700 they are essentially the same. 00:52:38.700 --> 00:52:50.160 Now Akita is in Japan, it's <00:52:42.450>not far from that place where <00:52:45.800>the nuclear reactor blew up. 00:52:51.300 --> 00:52:56.070 Cardinal Resting telling us that Panama <00:52:54.040>is essentially the same as Akita, 00:52:56.070 --> 00:53:01.700 here's what Our Lady says on the 13th of October 1973. 00:53:01.700 --> 00:53:08.280 This is a direct quote from Akita, which <00:53:05.080>is essentially the same as Panama. 00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:17.800 The work of the devil will <00:53:11.120>infiltrate even the church in such a <00:53:13.330>way that one will see cardinals opposing <00:53:15.540>cardinals, bishops against other bishops. 00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:24.950 The priests who venerate me will <00:53:20.120>be scorned and opposed by the <00:53:22.390>contraries. Churches and altars sacked. 00:53:24.950 --> 00:53:33.880 The church will be full of those who <00:53:27.290>accept compromise, and the demon will <00:53:29.350>press many priests and consecrated <00:53:31.410>souls to leave the service of the Lord. 00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:38.640 The demon will be especially implacable <00:53:36.070>against souls consecrated to God. 00:53:38.640 --> 00:53:42.660 The thought of the loss of so many <00:53:40.880>souls is the cause of my sadness. 00:53:42.660 --> 00:53:47.300 If sin increases in number <00:53:44.210>and gravity, there will no <00:53:45.430>longer be pardon for them. 00:53:47.300 --> 00:53:50.980 Akita goes on to say that 00:53:50.980 --> 00:53:57.040 the devastation that takes place <00:53:52.670>in the world be such that the <00:53:54.350>living will end be the dead. 00:53:57.540 --> 00:54:03.430 This, of course, is a consequence of the loss of faith. 00:54:03.430 --> 00:54:07.780 and the apostasy within the church. 00:54:08.970 --> 00:54:17.320 On May 13, 2000, Pope John Paul <00:54:13.400>II asked Pope said the following. 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:31.430 The message of Fatima is a call to <00:54:20.430>conversion, alerting humanity to have <00:54:23.030>nothing to do with the dragon whose <00:54:25.640>tail swept down a third of the stars of <00:54:28.250>heaven and cast them into the earth. 00:54:31.430 --> 00:54:38.440 Apocalypse chapter 12. What is this <00:54:34.820>reference that Pope John Paul is giving us? 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.540 He tells us that the message of Fatima 00:54:44.060 --> 00:54:49.460 alerts humanity to have nothing <00:54:46.310>to do with the dragon, that <00:54:47.560>of course is the devil. 00:54:49.460 --> 00:54:52.820 But what is this dragon doing? 00:54:52.820 --> 00:54:58.430 The dragon sweeps down a third of the stars of heaven. 00:54:58.430 --> 00:55:00.970 Who are these stars of heaven? 00:55:00.970 --> 00:55:08.570 If you read this passage, you can <00:55:03.980>interpret it, you can read it, for <00:55:06.270>example, in Father Bernard Cramer's book, 00:55:08.570 --> 00:55:11.210 that I can explain it to you in quite simple terms. 00:55:11.210 --> 00:55:16.380 A star is what the sailors used <00:55:13.620>to lead people to their port. 00:55:16.380 --> 00:55:21.750 A star of heaven is what leads <00:55:19.100>people to their port of heaven. 00:55:21.750 --> 00:55:25.820 What or who are these stars of heaven? 00:55:25.820 --> 00:55:31.860 sacred scripture tells us that the <00:55:29.070>lips of the priest guard wisdom. 00:55:31.860 --> 00:55:35.510 It is the priest who guides you to heaven. 00:55:35.510 --> 00:55:41.260 One third of these stars of <00:55:37.700>heaven, that is one third of the <00:55:39.480>Cardinals, the bishops and the priests, 00:55:41.260 --> 00:55:46.500 have been put at the service of <00:55:43.380>the devil by their own volition. 00:55:46.820 --> 00:55:53.800 And Pope John Paul is telling us <00:55:49.810>that the message of phenomena <00:55:51.810>is a call to conversion 00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:59.840 and a warning to each of us <00:55:55.810>to not have anything to do <00:55:57.830>with the dragon or those stars 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:03.920 who have been swept down from heaven <00:56:01.610>and at the service of the devil. 00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:09.000 That's in the secret because it's nowhere <00:56:06.230>else in the message of phenomena. 00:56:12.820 --> 00:56:24.920 Pope Benedict XVI on May 11, 2010, <00:56:17.320>and again on May 13, 2010, tells <00:56:20.820>us, here's what he said on May 11th, 00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:34.280 he gave a press conference on the <00:56:27.530>plane flying from Rome to Fatima <00:56:29.540>just a few days after our conference <00:56:31.550>here in Rome in the same hall. 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:39.680 And he had many questions prepared for <00:56:37.340>him, but he only chose three of them. 00:56:39.680 --> 00:56:44.380 And the third question he chose to <00:56:41.530>answer was about the secret of Farama. 00:56:44.850 --> 00:56:54.330 He tells us that the Third Secret <00:56:48.550>of Fatima speaks about the attacks <00:56:51.250>against the Pope and the Church. 00:56:54.330 --> 00:56:59.940 He says, the Circuit of Fatima tells us <00:56:57.030>not only that the attacks from outside, 00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:04.200 that not only from the outside <00:57:01.700>come the attacks against <00:57:02.880>the Pope and the Church, 00:57:04.200 --> 00:57:08.430 but the suffering of the Church comes <00:57:06.310>from right within inside the Church, 00:57:08.430 --> 00:57:11.570 from the sin that resides in the Church. 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:21.670 that this is unfolding in a <00:57:15.950>special way in our day, that <00:57:18.470>it's in a really terrifying way. 00:57:21.670 --> 00:57:27.260 This, he talks about this scandal of <00:57:24.620>pedophilia being in the third secret. 00:57:27.260 --> 00:57:33.430 Now nowhere is this in the text that <00:57:30.280>the Vatican released in the year 2000. 00:57:33.430 --> 00:57:38.520 It is obvious that there's this <00:57:35.730>other text, he talks about it. 00:57:39.560 --> 00:57:45.290 It concerns the church, it concerns each one of us. 00:57:45.290 --> 00:57:49.560 And I might say to the priests <00:57:47.620>and to the bishops here assembled 00:57:49.560 --> 00:57:54.040 that you have a right to ask for it. 00:57:54.040 --> 00:57:59.340 Not simply as baptized faithful as all <00:57:56.940>the faithful have a right to ask for it, 00:57:59.340 --> 00:58:03.450 but you have been given a commission to pastor's souls. 00:58:03.450 --> 00:58:09.780 you have been given the job of bringing <00:58:06.500>the souls in your care to heaven. 00:58:09.780 --> 00:58:17.500 But if there is information that <00:58:12.630>the Blessed Virgin has for you <00:58:14.670>to help you pasture those souls, 00:58:17.500 --> 00:58:22.250 and it's been withheld from you, <00:58:20.070>you are right to ask for it. 00:58:22.250 --> 00:58:26.910 I will give an example, I might have <00:58:24.770>said this before, from civil life, 00:58:26.910 --> 00:58:30.860 when the Commander in Chief of the American Navy, 00:58:30.860 --> 00:58:39.600 President Roosevelt knew exactly when <00:58:33.950>the attack from Japan was going <00:58:36.360>to happen in Pearl Harbor. 00:58:39.600 --> 00:58:41.680 His... 00:58:41.680 --> 00:58:49.830 intelligence agents had found the <00:58:44.510>message. They knew the time, the <00:58:46.850>day, and the place of the attack. 00:58:49.830 --> 00:58:55.840 And yet President Roosevelt withheld that <00:58:53.160>information from his own commanders, 00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:04.120 purposely and knowingly, so that the <00:58:58.270>attack would take place, so he could <00:59:00.690>enter into war with Japan and Germany. 00:59:04.390 --> 00:59:14.930 But as terrible as that was, <00:59:07.770>withholding this information from <00:59:10.150>the lieutenants and the commanders <00:59:12.530>of the church throughout the world, 00:59:14.930 --> 00:59:21.280 which will help you defend the <00:59:16.980>souls, your own soul, and the souls <00:59:19.010>of the faithful entrusted to you. 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.580 is in some ways much worse. 00:59:24.580 --> 00:59:29.640 You cannot command the Pope, <00:59:26.650>of course. The Pope is the <00:59:28.030>highest authority in the Church. 00:59:29.640 --> 00:59:34.070 But you can certainly ask <00:59:31.270>for it and you can certainly <00:59:32.670>say to him with all respect, 00:59:34.070 --> 00:59:40.870 I hold you responsible for all <00:59:36.340>the souls that would have been <00:59:38.610>saved in my diocese in my parish 00:59:40.870 --> 00:59:43.480 if I don't have this information. 00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:51.150 I wash my hands on this responsibility <00:59:46.330>since you have given me the charge of <00:59:48.670>this diocese, the charge of this parish, 00:59:51.150 --> 00:59:57.760 and I cannot do my job without <00:59:53.370>this information. I need this <00:59:55.460>information and you owe it to me. 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:02.250 which reminds us of what Pope John Paul II said at Fatima, 01:00:02.250 --> 01:00:07.420 can the mother, with all the <01:00:04.060>force of the love that she <01:00:05.660>fosters in the Holy Spirit, 01:00:07.420 --> 01:00:09.660 and desires everyone's salvation, 01:00:09.660 --> 01:00:15.970 can the mother remain silent when <01:00:11.680>she sees the very basis of her <01:00:13.460>children's salvation undermined? 01:00:15.970 --> 01:00:21.260 And the Pope answers his own question, <01:00:18.870>no, she cannot remain silent. 01:00:21.260 --> 01:00:27.520 She has spoken, she has told <01:00:23.490>us what this danger is and how <01:00:25.500>to protect ourselves against it. 01:00:27.520 --> 01:00:31.290 But unfortunately has not been passed on to you. 01:00:31.290 --> 01:00:38.460 What is the basis of our <01:00:34.090>salvation? He says that in the <01:00:35.940>plural, bases of our salvation. 01:00:38.460 --> 01:00:42.650 The basis of our salvation is of <01:00:40.690>course the dogma of the faith. 01:00:42.650 --> 01:00:49.060 As St. Athanasius tells us and <01:00:44.990>which is told by the Catholic <01:00:46.910>creed called of St. Athanasius, 01:00:49.060 --> 01:00:53.800 whoever wishes to be saved must hold on <01:00:51.300>to the Catholic faith hold an entire. 01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:59.690 And that is summarized for us and <01:00:56.020>spoken in very precise language <01:00:57.760>in the dogmas of the church, 01:00:59.690 --> 01:01:04.110 which Our Lady tells us in the secret will be under attack. 01:01:04.110 --> 01:01:12.320 The second basis of our salvation <01:01:07.150>is the kurji, which Our Lady <01:01:09.730>explains in her secret how 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.060 to distinguish between 01:01:14.060 --> 01:01:18.800 Faithful clergy and unfaithful <01:01:16.670>clergy working for the devil. 01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:26.010 This the faithful need, this the <01:01:21.200>clergy need so they can save <01:01:23.460>themselves from false brethren. 01:01:26.010 --> 01:01:33.850 St. Paul lists off the various <01:01:28.160>persecutions he endured and one <01:01:30.030>of them he points out is the <01:01:31.890>attacks from false brethren. 01:01:33.850 --> 01:01:38.150 We need to be able to identify them. <01:01:35.870>We need the words of Our Lady. 01:01:38.150 --> 01:01:40.710 and it concerns our own salvation 01:01:40.710 --> 01:01:43.690 and the souls of all those dear and near to us. 01:01:43.690 --> 01:01:45.350 God bless you in the name of the Father 01:01:45.350 --> 02:03:35.460 and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, amen.