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"For Francis, a resounding defeat: Traditionalists have won a huge victory." | "Even in 2015, it's …

Professor Odon Vallet is an expert in the history of religions and civilizations and, since he is deemed a strong and radical "Progressive", he is a favorite in the French media to speak as a secular-friendly voice on Catholic issues.

He was interviewed by popular daily "20 Minutes" on the results of the 2014 assembly of the Synod of Bishops:

In what sense did the provisional text [the Forte relatio] signal an important step?

The provisional text included two overtures. One regarding the remarried divorcees. The other regarding homosexuals. It was not a revolution, but an evolution. It was not proposed to admit the remarried divorcees to the sacrament, but simply to predict, either by marriage annulment, or by a penance procedure, the readmission to the sacrament. For homosexuals, there was no question of recognized marriage, but to underline the "gifts and qualities" that they could offer to the Church. They were welcomed, without however officially recognizing their [civil] union.

An evolution that did not pass through at the time of voting...

In the final text, no allusion is made anymore to these two controversial issues. It is a resounding defeat for pope Francis, a snub. Worse still, an American Cardinal [editor note: Raymond Leo Burke, of the conservative opposition] even declared that the Pope had done "great harm by not saying openly what his position was." In reality, Francis remained silent to grant all freedom to the participants. It is the first time in 50 years, at least, that a cardinal opposes himself openly to the Pope. It is the first time as well, in several centuries, that bishops and cardinals don't have confidence in him.

How to explain it?

The almost totality of these prelates were named by John Paul II and Benedict XVI. Their opinions are more conservative than that of the pope. Some even pose the question of legitimacy. They have not accepted the resignation of Benedict XVI.[***] Since pope Francis said that he too would resign and that his pontificate would be brief, some are beginning to play for time and wait for the election of his successor.

However, it is indeed pope Francis who will have the final say?

After the second synod, in 2015, the Pope [would] normally take the decisions under the format of an apostolic exhortation. But it is almost impossible that the Pope will go against bishops and Cardinals. That would risk provoking a schism in the Church. Traditionalist Catholics have won a huge victory. France played an important part in this.

Isn't it a symbolic victory for homosexuals?

This attempt to change touched the spirits in parishes, in dioceses.[*] Many clerics who prepare for marriage were glad to see that the Synod seemed to take realities into consideration. But the final retreat left them distraught. In many countries, such as France and Germany, the Catholic Church is deeply divided. The great success of protests [Rorate note: La Manif pour tous] against marriage for all [Rorate note: mariage pour tous, a French Socialist euphemism for same sex civil "marriage"] foretold this failure of Pope Francis. Let us not forget that the center of gravity of the episcopal body is clearly conservative. The Pope has lost for the moment any room for maneuver despite his immense popularity [**]. Since he is cunning, he will take the time to reflect and try to take control in another way.
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It is a correct analysis of the moment. We would just add a few notes. First, [*] that the provisional report inflamed spirits everywhere and in very different ways, not merely, as Vallet implies, of hope and expectation among pseudo-Catholics who do not believe in anything. From what we received from readers in more mainstream parishes, and from every single African reader, the provisional report set a fire of indignation in many spirits in parishes and dioceses as well. If anything, the laity in African nations (and certainly in every single Asian nation) is even more conservative in moral matters than their bishops. Second, that [**] the pope's undeniably immense "popularity" in secular contexts is much less noticeable at the parish level, where the "Francis effect" is negligible, if existent -- and the more dedicated and thoroughly catechized a particular group is, the less popular the pope is. Therefore, the risk, if not of an outright schism, of a strong and enduring division between pope and priests and laity is immense. Francis has lots of support to change Catholic doctrine... but mostly among people who rarely go to Church, if they are Catholics at all. Third, [***] the resignation of the former pope is a non-issue, except in the mind of the new liberal Ultramontanists.

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Many Catholics are still in the waiting game, but deep down inside they know, some out a false respect to the ones who don't have respect for Apostolic truth, some are in denial, some others know but rather wait for a no doubt mistake from the top.
Some, very few have seen the signs, the bad deeds and the Machiavellian maneuvers from the most holy pope ever to walk the earth to secure power for …More
Many Catholics are still in the waiting game, but deep down inside they know, some out a false respect to the ones who don't have respect for Apostolic truth, some are in denial, some others know but rather wait for a no doubt mistake from the top.

Some, very few have seen the signs, the bad deeds and the Machiavellian maneuvers from the most holy pope ever to walk the earth to secure power for liberals.

No red shoes, no ring of the fisherman, black pants, hotel rooms instead of papal apartments, total destruction of the predecessor's work, total distaste for tradition, totally in line with the world and everything is for the world.

And yet nothing...

The most humble man ever to walk the earth rents the Vatican to the rich to feed the poor, like when the traitor Judas got angry for that expensive perfume used by Mary at Jesus feet, he objected because "it could be sold and given to the poor" but Jesus knowing the traitor was also a thief said:

"You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me." John 12:8

Hypocrisy, deceit, worldliness today seems to be the new Gospel... and the world loves their own.

I have totally given up on most Gloria TV users, they see a sheep, I see a wolf, they see a saint, I see a Judas... Most people keep silence despite deep down they know Apostasy have come in the form of a rock star.

The St Francis of Assisi prophecy have been fulfilled through the apostasy in the "who i am to judge" Franciscans of Boston and the Franciscans of the immaculate, that's why I'll follow tradition without following this wolf in sheep clothing.

May Jesus finds us with a good confession at hand. Blessings
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118-62 votes and it didn't reach 145 votes to be accepted.
'Let God surprise you' said Francis...
118 wolves, 118 bad bishops... let God SURPRISE you, SCHISM is right around the corner, while that happens there's time to silenced, demote, persecute 62 Bishops. 🤗More
118-62 votes and it didn't reach 145 votes to be accepted.

'Let God surprise you' said Francis...

118 wolves, 118 bad bishops... let God SURPRISE you, SCHISM is right around the corner, while that happens there's time to silenced, demote, persecute 62 Bishops. 🤗