Heretical Pope: Bishop Schneider and Cardinal Burke Contradict Each Other
Bishop Athanasius Schneider stressed in a March 20 essay that it is not possible to depose a heretical pope and that such a pope does not lose his office automatically. This position contradicts …More
Bishop Athanasius Schneider stressed in a March 20 essay that it is not possible to depose a heretical pope and that such a pope does not lose his office automatically.
This position contradicts Cardinal Raymond Burke who stated in a CatholicWorldReport.com interview (December 19, 2016): “If a Pope would formally profess heresy he would cease, by that act, to be the Pope. It’s automatic.“
Burke's position would allow clerics to take things in their own hands refusing obedience to the heretical pope as, for instance, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the founder of the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, has done.
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This position contradicts Cardinal Raymond Burke who stated in a CatholicWorldReport.com interview (December 19, 2016): “If a Pope would formally profess heresy he would cease, by that act, to be the Pope. It’s automatic.“
Burke's position would allow clerics to take things in their own hands refusing obedience to the heretical pope as, for instance, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the founder of the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, has done.
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Msgr. Nicola Bux said in October: Its easier to deal on the basis of substantial error in the renunciation than how to remove a heretical pope.
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Pray your rosaries for a real Catholic holy Shepard to sit in the Chair of Peter.
Bishop Athanasious is a good bishop and a good man ,he never said or agreed in any abuse quite the contrary he is in the fore front of this spiritual warfare , and he contradicts Pope Francis most of the time ,he actually was punished for it ,he can not travel to other countries now ,without permission ,what he is saying it is not easy to remove a Pope even if he says heresies .And Cardinal Burke …More
Bishop Athanasious is a good bishop and a good man ,he never said or agreed in any abuse quite the contrary he is in the fore front of this spiritual warfare , and he contradicts Pope Francis most of the time ,he actually was punished for it ,he can not travel to other countries now ,without permission ,what he is saying it is not easy to remove a Pope even if he says heresies .And Cardinal Burke he is not saying that the Pope should be removed either .
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More likely, he is "controlled opposition" ... someone whose has the job to "keep quiet the vociferant masses"
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Neither position is applicable to the present situation. Living pope Benedict XVI simply needs to be recognized by Churchmen who will conform their thoughts to reality which clearly presents BXVI to be pope who did not fully resign Petrine Office.
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Bishop Schneider is deranged
Did Jesus ever said any kind of abuse is ok or He fought abuse and evil everywhere He went?
I guess Bishop Schneider likes to be abused and abuse others and pretend he is a Saint
I see the pattern in Catholic Church abusing people into holiness
Even in FSSP
FR. ROMANOVSKI AND FR. PASSO ABUSING CERTAIN SOULS INTO SUBMISSION
AND PROBABLY MANY OTHER PRIESTS IN FSSP
WHY? …More
Bishop Schneider is deranged
Did Jesus ever said any kind of abuse is ok or He fought abuse and evil everywhere He went?
I guess Bishop Schneider likes to be abused and abuse others and pretend he is a Saint
I see the pattern in Catholic Church abusing people into holiness
Even in FSSP
FR. ROMANOVSKI AND FR. PASSO ABUSING CERTAIN SOULS INTO SUBMISSION
AND PROBABLY MANY OTHER PRIESTS IN FSSP
WHY? BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO SUFFER FOR THE SALVATION OF THE SOULS as St . John Viani and other Saints did
THEY BELIEVE GOD NEEDS THEIR HELP TO INFLICT SUFFERING UPON THE SOULS
FSSP NEVER HEARD ABOUT IMITATION OF THE CHRIST!!!!!
GOD GIVES EVERY SOUL SUFFICIENT SUFFERINGS FOR THE SANCTIFICATION OF THEIR SOUL
THEY FEEL GOD IS FAILING IN IT
AND THEY KNOW BETTER!!!! HOW MUCH SUFFERINGS WE SHOULD HAVE
SO THEY INFLICT IT UPON US
IS THAT CORRECT FR. ROMANOVSKI?
GO BACK TO MEXICO!!!
YOUR SPIRITUALITY AND MATURITY FITS THERE!!!!
BISHOP SCHNEIDER is in power now so he is not abused and he is an abuser?
Psychotic
Bishop Schneider and all alike resign with Pope Francis
Satan has taken over your soul
Did Jesus ever said any kind of abuse is ok or He fought abuse and evil everywhere He went?
I guess Bishop Schneider likes to be abused and abuse others and pretend he is a Saint
I see the pattern in Catholic Church abusing people into holiness
Even in FSSP
FR. ROMANOVSKI AND FR. PASSO ABUSING CERTAIN SOULS INTO SUBMISSION
AND PROBABLY MANY OTHER PRIESTS IN FSSP
WHY? BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO SUFFER FOR THE SALVATION OF THE SOULS as St . John Viani and other Saints did
THEY BELIEVE GOD NEEDS THEIR HELP TO INFLICT SUFFERING UPON THE SOULS
FSSP NEVER HEARD ABOUT IMITATION OF THE CHRIST!!!!!
GOD GIVES EVERY SOUL SUFFICIENT SUFFERINGS FOR THE SANCTIFICATION OF THEIR SOUL
THEY FEEL GOD IS FAILING IN IT
AND THEY KNOW BETTER!!!! HOW MUCH SUFFERINGS WE SHOULD HAVE
SO THEY INFLICT IT UPON US
IS THAT CORRECT FR. ROMANOVSKI?
GO BACK TO MEXICO!!!
YOUR SPIRITUALITY AND MATURITY FITS THERE!!!!
BISHOP SCHNEIDER is in power now so he is not abused and he is an abuser?
Psychotic
Bishop Schneider and all alike resign with Pope Francis
Satan has taken over your soul
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I found this in the comments section on a Catholic news site or blog. I’m sorry I’ve forgotten just where. Anyway, here is the quote,...
“Father Gianfranco Ghirlanda, former rector of the Gregorian University, studied the past millennia of canonical tradition concerning the loss of papal office. Such an extensive study by a canonist of his caliber is quite rare, and hence his findings should carry …More
I found this in the comments section on a Catholic news site or blog. I’m sorry I’ve forgotten just where. Anyway, here is the quote,...
“Father Gianfranco Ghirlanda, former rector of the Gregorian University, studied the past millennia of canonical tradition concerning the loss of papal office. Such an extensive study by a canonist of his caliber is quite rare, and hence his findings should carry great weight. This is what he wrote about the topic in an article published in 2013 by Civiltà Cattolica:
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Fr. Gianfranco Ghirlanda: “The vacancy of the Roman See occurs in case of the cessation of the office on the part of the Roman Pontiff, which happens for four reasons: 1) Death, 2) Sure and perpetual insanity or complete mental infirmity; 3) Notorious apostasy, heresy, schism; 4) Resignation. In the first case, the Apostolic See is vacant from the moment of death of the Roman Pontiff; IN THE SECOND AND IN THE THIRD FROM THE MOMENT OF THE DECLARATION ON THE PART OF THE CARDINALS; in the fourth from the moment of the renunciation.”
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He went on to explain that the Cardinals do not depose the pope, but only declared the fact of his heresy. It is “from the moment of the declaration on the part of the Cardinals” that the see becomes vacant, NOT BEFORE.
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In the case of Francis, there have been no solemn warnings and no declaration from the Cardinals. Hence, he remains pope...”
“Father Gianfranco Ghirlanda, former rector of the Gregorian University, studied the past millennia of canonical tradition concerning the loss of papal office. Such an extensive study by a canonist of his caliber is quite rare, and hence his findings should carry great weight. This is what he wrote about the topic in an article published in 2013 by Civiltà Cattolica:
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Fr. Gianfranco Ghirlanda: “The vacancy of the Roman See occurs in case of the cessation of the office on the part of the Roman Pontiff, which happens for four reasons: 1) Death, 2) Sure and perpetual insanity or complete mental infirmity; 3) Notorious apostasy, heresy, schism; 4) Resignation. In the first case, the Apostolic See is vacant from the moment of death of the Roman Pontiff; IN THE SECOND AND IN THE THIRD FROM THE MOMENT OF THE DECLARATION ON THE PART OF THE CARDINALS; in the fourth from the moment of the renunciation.”
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He went on to explain that the Cardinals do not depose the pope, but only declared the fact of his heresy. It is “from the moment of the declaration on the part of the Cardinals” that the see becomes vacant, NOT BEFORE.
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In the case of Francis, there have been no solemn warnings and no declaration from the Cardinals. Hence, he remains pope...”