And like I and others have tried to ram home - there are not two Churches. There is one Church that has been infiltrated (poisoned) with A SYSTEM designed to brain wash naïve and unsuspecting Catholic clergy into becoming their puppets. It is this same SYSTEM that has infiltrated all the religious orders including SSPX - hence why at times they seem to be working against the very thing they stand for. This ideology is the real enemy which must be exposed and rooted out. Freemasons work in the shadows. They pretend to be what they are not in order to get into places of power. Christ promised to protect the Seat of Peter hence why the Masons chose a different tactic; if they couldn't get a Mason on the throne (as they attempted in 1903 with Rampolla), they would at least get a Catholic so infected with liberalism that he would succumb to their manipulation in terms of how the faith should be expressed and interpreted. It reminds me of Theodan, King of Rohan, who was subtly fed poison (which effected his thinking) by his chief advisor Grima Wormtongue who was secretly an agent of Saruman. Sean, I am not objecting to this e-book (with the exception of Fr. Gruner's wonky views) - I agree, we all need to understand better how the true enemy works.

The Dominicians of Avrille are part of the Resistance movement that broke away from the SSPX. I had hardly begun reading your link when I hit upon this line written by one of them "To affirm that the official church is the Catholic Church, – something which Archbishop Lefebvre never did - leads one to look for an official recognition, because one cannot remain outside of the Catholic Church. ". Hang on, His Grace, Archbishop Lefebvre always recognised the Official Church as the Catholic Church. To state that he never did is not true. In fact, he made it pretty clear that he viewed the "conciliar church" as a warped mindset - warped ideology - that had attached itself to the Church of Rome and infected its members. The meaning of the word 'conciliar' derives from Conciliarism which was a reform movement in the 14th-, 15th- and 16th-century Catholic Church which held that supreme authority in the Church resided with an ecumenical council, apart from, or even against, the pope. This is an extremely dangerous mindset to have within the Church because it is only the Pope who has the protection of the Holy Ghost. How better to render the divine power of the Pope null and void but by setting up a democracy where a council of bishops make the final decisions! Yet, despite this masonic infiltration, Bishop Tissier de Mallerais clarifies how we should view the Roman Catholic Church: "From what has been said, it is good to draw two conclusions concerning the relationship between the two churches. Firstly, the conciliar church is not materially separate from the Catholic Church. It does not exist independently from the Catholic Church....it is a parasite...". This I totally agree with. So to clarify, when I say there is not two Churches - I mean that the Church of Rome remains the Official Church - there is not another true Church somewhere else. Certainly I agree that there are Freemasons who have set up their own "church" within the Holy Catholic Church however they are so closely imbedded at this stage that it will take a Holy Pope to detox them. Meanwhile the Church is the Church and we are obliged to recognise the Pope's authority when he acts in conformity to the laws and traditions of Christ. Yes, it's a fine line but what choice do we have.

Sorry, but the article is written by +de Mallerais, and he says the conciliar church differs from the Catholic Church in its formal, efficient, material, and final causes, and is in fact its own entity, even though not entirely separate from the Catholic Church. I’m pretty sure +de Mallerais understands what Lefebvre meant by conciliar church, and your comment makes it clear that you didn’t read the article.

Yes, it differs. It's a parasite within. Agreed. But while Bishop de Mallerais may understand Archbishop Lefebrve's viewpoint, I do wonder if you - or at least sede-vacantists - do. The visible Church in Rome with Pope Francis as head, is still the official true Church. It is not somewhere else. Why else would Archbishop Lefebrve declare that sede-vacantism leads to schism. However, there is a masonic ideology (consiliarism) that has taken it captive so to speak and created a working environment for a masonic assembly within that could loosely be termed "church". Bishop de Mallerais sums it up thus: "Formally considered, the conciliar church is a sect which occupies the Catholic Church. It has its organised instigators and actors, as had the modernism condemned by St. Pius X." As we cannot separate the two at this point in time, we cannot separate. All we can do is recognise and resist; recognise the true Church while resisting the false sect until Our Lord allows a Holy Pope to take the throne and root out this cancer.