Yes, blame certainly can go around. And most certainly to those who are suppose to be protecting the sheep.

Today is the Feast of St. Pius X ..(62 Missal) Now he knew how to shepherd. And today's gospel reading is taken from .St. John 21:15-17

At that time, Jesus said to Simon Peter: "Simon, son of John, lovest thou Me more than these?" He saith to Him: "Yea, Lord, Thou knowest that I love Thee." He saith to him: "Feed My lambs." He saith to him again: "Simon, son of John, lovest thou Me?" He saith to Him: "Yea, Lord, Thou knowest that I love Thee." He saith to him: "Feed My lambs." He saith to him a third time: "Lovest thou Me?" And he said to Him: "Lord, Thou knowest all things: Thou knowest that I love Thee." He said to him: "Feed My sheep."

Again, as Fulton Sheen has so rightly put it: "Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to the people....etc,etc.

Pray for all priests and religious,... Pray for Holy Priests! And pray for our Holy Father.

Voris got part of his material for this show from
www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/aug/10081315.html

where the article about Rush, Ann, and Glenn appeared.

The article goes on to explain Beck's take a little more thoroughly so I'll jump to Rush and Ann. It's important to remember that none of these 3 people are Catholic clerics nor do they speak for the Catholic Church.
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Ann Coulter Sums Up Why Homosexual Marriage Totally Misses the Point
From thehill.com/20-questions/coulter-the-que…:

Thoughts on same-sex marriage?

"I’m against it. Liberals do not understand the point of marriage. The point of marriage is not for society to understand the strong feelings people have for one another. It is to raise children. It’s to harness men’s natural promiscuity and to direct it toward one woman and one set of children.
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"The radio talker, (Limbaugh) who reaches the nation's biggest conservative audience, erupted at last week's decision by U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker.

"The American people are boiling, " Limbaugh declared. "The American people are furious. My e-mails are unbelievable. This federal judge, this decision, Prop. 8, California has just put people over the edge, and all of these decisions are coming one after another from all corners of the federal government. "It's as if we have absolutely no say in what is going on all around us. Decisions are being made for us, in lieu of us and imposed on us . . . We're trying to live our lives, follow the rules. We have these institutions, the federal judiciary now run by leftist nutjobs picking us apart."
~~snip~~

Limbaugh, a veteran of four marriages and three divorces, sees only a nefarious agenda.

"They seek to impose their perverted views, their depraved views on family and marriage," he thundered. "Nobody's denying anybody the right to get married. Marriage? There's a definition of it, for it. It means something. Marriage is a union of a man and a woman.
And, he concluded, "This is about destroying an institution."
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As I've written, "I don't care what Voris says about Rush nor do I care what Rush says about Elton John." The problem is not Rush, Ann or Glenn. The problem is this:

“The number of Catholics who view gay relationships as “morally acceptable” jumped 16 percentage points between the years 2006-2010, to 62 percent.” www.shewired.com/Article.cfm

Ask yourself, who is responsible for this terrible travesty and embarrasment to Catholilcism? Where and who are the teachers of the faithful? I can assure you Rush, Ann and Beck were not responsible nor are they responsible for the wide acceptance of contraception, the tolerance of abortion, voting for pro-abort pols and the failure of most Catholics to dutifully practice their faith.

"I don't care what Voris says about Rush nor do I care what Rush says about Elton John."

I was with you till that last sentence Cannoli..... You may agree about R.L."s political stance, outlook, and yes I too can go along with a lot of things he says,.....according to Our Lady of Fatima, the most SOULS that go to hell are due to "Sins of the Flesh", and their public acceptence of these "sins of the flesh" will have to answer for it. CLERGY or RADIO COMMENTATORS.

And yes, I knew Limbaugh is not Catholic nor Beck, and for Coulter who claims she IS......hope she repents before it too late.

Homosexuals are made too in the image and likeness of God. We are not to hate them anymore than an adulterer or thief, or fornicator who repents. We MUST denounce LOUD and CLEAR that all the above are SINS, and against God's moral law, which also includes the promoters of sin that sit in the Supreme Court passing laws enabling the murdering of millions of babies, etc,. etc,.

Rush Limbaugh (non-Catholic) was recently married for the 4th time. I wouldn't look to him for guidance in matters of faith or morals any more than I would look to a plumber when my electrical service was not working. In that case, obviously, I would look to an electrician.

The problem are Catholic clerics who we do look to for guidance in matters of faith and morals. When their teaching is flawed, what then? Those who are informed will research and study and eventually find the truth for themselves. But, what about the millions of Joe-pew-sitters? Joe sometimes goes to church, rarely reads scripture, and never heard of the Doctors or Fathers of the Church. Joe will look for the easiest way and will find a Catholic Church somewhere that will tell him what he wants to hear and will allow him to do what he wants to do without guilt. What does Joe think of the once authoritative and morally upright Catholic Church, that has allowed homosexuals to make seminaries their playground and, once ordained, these same men make altar boys their playmates? Furthermore, what does Joe or the world think about bishops (the leaders in the Church) who harbored, covered up for, reassigned and lied to protect the molesters? Joe might reason that if these criminal acts were commited by ordained clerics, what's a little contraception here and there?

Look, for me, Limbaugh is excellent in his political commentary and the strongest voice we have in this country for political conservatism. Without Rush, Beck, Coulter et al. who would the strong voices for conservative values be? The USCCB? They've lost their moral authority years ago.

I don't care what Voris says about Rush nor do I care what Rush says about Elton John.

www.youtube.com/watch

Thanks EJG....

HCannoli,..yes, I agree that the clergy should be out there doing what they are called to do...Save Souls! Agree with the judges, the university professors and the like. Just because Limbaugh & Beck as you put it are "political commentators" would not excuse the fact of their publicly announcing their acceptance of an immoral lifestyle! Then it would excuse Pelosi, Biden, etc., Doesn't cut it. Beck & Limbaugh have a following in which many can be swayed into their line of thinking, just as the many "Catholics" have been for the past 40+ yrs. If Beck's going to continue his talks about the importance of "turning this country back to God", then he better practice what he preaches. I liked both of this men a while back until I learned of their public announcements accepting the gay sodomite living. Great example for our youth also. There's something more to all this, and time will tell.

Also, there's a LOT of Money backing the homo agenda, and anyone, ANYONE who supports and promotes this agenda has no business telling us just how bad our world and our government is.

KFed

Now you've made 5 posts on this thread and NOT ONE OF THEM had anything to do with the video but, rather, they dealt exclusively with me. Evidently you're smitten. xxooxx

video.google.com/videoplay

Cannoli you are really not deserving of a reply due to your mentally ill rantings. All you can do is name call because of how I've assessed you is all too true. You are a foolish man whom nobody can take seriously and talking to you is like trying to explain Einsteinian Theory to a chimp. You give stupid, unwanted advice to people who are too nice to inform you that they do not care what your opinion is. I've already demonstrated that you are the quintessential pinhead but because of being what you are, you are unable to recognize this. I would not even stoop to calling you a pinhead but since you are the one who called me the name first, I'm giving you your title back because it fits you well. You keep lashing out at me because of your diminished capacity for rational thought. Good night and keep those thrilling critiques you give of other's talents coming!

KFed,

You've made 4 posts on this thread and NOT ONE OF THEM had anything to do with the video but, rather, they dealt exclusively with me. If you were a woman (are you?) I would say you are obsessed with me. If you are a man, I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am a heterosexual male.

For a person who has expressed the views you have expressed, it's illogical to even bother with someone like me, yet, you repeatedly do. It's illogical unless you actually are an obsessive pinhead.

Kfed,

Evidently you are unable to write something substantive about the video so you snipe at me. Here's a little hint. The video is not about me, you pinhead.

Holy Rope wrote:

>>>How can Beck who claims to pray often and read Holy Scripture proclaim his acceptance of civil unions for homosexuals? And Coulter, where did her 360 * or should I say 180* turnaround come from? And Limbaugh who has Elton John (the homosexual) at his recent wedding. Have they all lost it?

I don't believe these three individuals are Catholic. In fact, did you know that not everyone in this country is Catholic. In fact, not all Catholics in this country are Catholic (gasp).

All three are conservative political commentators and they are respected for their political (not religious) views. Are they always correct? No. Nevertheless, they do what they do very well. What they realize and you don't is that “homosexual unions” is not a defining issue in the November elections.

>>>I'd rather listen to Mr. Voris on the radio than any of those three who promote unnatural unions.

Promote unnatural unions? Is that what these three POLITICAL COMMENATATORS are doing? Look, the vast majority of the American public already oppose the abomination of homosexual activity. Yet, the will of the people has deliberately been thwarted by activist judges, most recently in California and the abomination will continue to be promoted by non-elected activist judges.

The crucial issue of our day is removing those kinds of judges who have that kind of power. The removal will come about by electing politicians who believe in limited and a more representative government and who will appoint judges who think the same way. Homosexual unions is not the critical issue of our time.

If you listen solely to Voris on news/political issues that affect our country, you will remain clueless. Voris is primarily a religious commentator. The others are political commentators.
He excels in his area of expertise and they excel at theirs.

If you want to complain about those who are not speaking what you want to hear, address clerics who are giving mixed messages to the laity within the Catholic Church. Do this before you criticize non-Catholics who are speaking from a secular and not a religious point of view. This is simple common sense. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3394097.stm

I would not concern yourself with Holy Cannoli's assessment on any topic. He gives unwarrented, unsolicited, unprofessional, unintelligible "advice" to every video poster on Gloria tv. Holy Cannoli must believe people are taking notes on his observations about their videos and content hoping to someday bring them up to an acceptable level that Holy Cannoli can finally give them the "Bravo!" stamp that they'll receive from him only after meticulously following his brilliant advice.

HCannoli...how can their "recent thoughts" of homosexuality be anything else but negative? How can Beck who claims to pray often and read Holy Scripture proclaim his acceptance of civil unions for homosexuals? And Coulter, where did her 360 * or should I say 180* turnaround come from? And Limbaugh who has Elton John (the homosexual) at his recent wedding. Have they all lost it? I'd rather listen to Mr. Voris on the radio than any of those three who promote unnatural unions. We need a True and Holy Catholic radio host(s). And if we had any, they probably wouldn't last as long as these three, because the force out there will do its best to destroy just a hint of traditional Catholicism. Why? because it is TRUTH. But thats the battle we are facing, either, we remain silent and allow what goes on, or we fight the good fight.

As usual, Voris gives a strong presentation. However, his message here is flawed. Voris sites Beck, Coulter and Limbaugh negatively because of their recent thoughs on “homosexual unions.”
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Dear, Michael,

Get a hair cut. Justin Bieber is a teen idol: you're not

Voris said: A society needs more than just religion to survive. It needs the correct religion.

Well then, under which of the following scenarios are we more likely to have a correct religion?

A. A top down system of force and compulsion where imperfect men impose their vision of correct religion on the rest of us?
or
B. A free market system of ideas where people are allowed to examine and study and put those ideas to the test and evaluate the results for themselves?

For conservatives, the answer is obvious. The later approach will guarantee that some ideas may be wrong but, in the end, truth is enduring and will win out.
For totalitarians, the former approach guarantees that brute force or political power will make those decisions for all of us. This approach has never been successful in helping mankind discover truth.

Voris does an excellent job of calling our esteemed ruling class (the Bishops) to task for all kinds of things. He should have, in this video, mentioned those within the Episcopate who also support “homosexual unions.”
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HolyRope wrote:
>>>My apologies if I erred with the previous one.

In the old days, your trial and certain excommunication would have already begun regardless of your apology. You're very lucky VC-II softened things up.

Ah.... now this is better. Mr Boris has presented a well argued talk here. In addition to his 'unity' argument, I would add that this is NOT new and the collapse of this is rather evident in Europe now. Carolvs Magnvs, crowned Holy Roman Emperor on Christmas day 800AD, realised the merits and power of unity. He used the Roman Church and her liturgy to unify the Holy Roman Empire; Europe became a formidable force for the propagation of the Faith.

While that time in our world history is quite passed, the merits of a 'feration of christian churches' is warrented wherein all christian sects agree to adhere to the basic Christian principles of informed Biblical religion. In this way, the ancient moral code is kept in tact.