@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori I am so happy to see you just saying you'll go sede-vacantist and not schismatic with the Greeks Kenjiro. Truly that's a consolation today.

But I believe the sede has probably been vacant since 31 december 2022. Now cardinals are waiting for Bergoglio to die and elect a legitimate Pope.

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori Ladaria and Ouellet aren't too bad either, he also appointed one of the few bishops opposed to the synodal path in Germany.

He appoints orthodox Germans but heretical Americans. He basically scathes the majority of bishops from both countries.

@SonoftheChurch It's only the cardinal electors whom he has appointed that matter. Those are 81. 40 cardinals still predate him. By later in September (around the time I expect we'll have a sede vacante) that will be 38. Of those there only only 4 or bad remaining ones (Marx, Tagle, Gracias, Schonborn and possibly de Avis) and 4 are uncertain but have probably been turned against Francis and one likely won't partake (Ricard from France).

There will be 28 (solidly) orthodox cardinals who predate Francis (more than 2/3 of the cardinals who were appointed by Popes who don't have Francis legitimacy) problems out of 119-117/6 who will vote in the conclave. Francis added 17 certainly orthodox cardinals to them who completely oppose the synodal stuff (Muller, Arborelius, Bo, Ladaria, Jean-Pierre Kutwa, Marengo, Okpaleke, Goh). Together they'll be at least 45 (or being pessimistic and discpunting 1 or 2, 44 or 43) and able to veto another Bergoglio.

Then there are unclear centrist ones he added like more Africans Kambanda, Furtado, Besungu, Middle Eastern ones like Coutts and I Sako and more Asian cardinals like Advincula from the Philippines (no Tagle it seem), Manyo Maeda a bishop from Japan appointed by Pope Benedict XVI (walked in the march for life), Mangkhanekhoun a prisoner of the Communists in Laos for years...

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori You need to syop saying you'd join the Greek schismatics who bless adultery copntrary to our Lord.

I agree with everything else you say but that's just sooo wrong!

@Clement Jaeho Chung More horrible than before? I think he will be even more tired and worn out while Parolin runs the scene and Parolin is terrible but not a radical.

His attack on the tridentine mass proved to backfire and he has declined since. I feel rather relaxed,

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori Meds at Gemelli said what he had in 2021 was benign but never admitted to cancer.

He looked sick a lot even before this.

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori That gives a lot of clarity. But 18 months at best... so wha at worst? Also, this is assuming he doesn't have cancer and other stuff right?

Your aunt thought he looked like a cancer patient didn't she?

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori It is terrible to have to wish for that yes.

We still haven't gotten a photo from Bergoglio. If he does get out of the hospital I still think he is declining fast.