On that point, we can agree, I fully acknowledge my arrogance Gesù è con noi . It's watered and nourished when I'm beating you at your own game, out-debating you, out-reasoning you and, yes, literally out-thinking you.

My arrogance is further nourished when I see an easy mistake. Like so: both your quotes from former Popes are the proverbial Red Herrings, i.e. irrelevant to the current discussion. In short, these learned and devout men are saying very bad people aren't going to Heaven. Thanks, guys. Sorry Gesu woke you up just to point out the obvious. Unfortunately, that doesn't say anything about why bad men have been appointed Pope, why they reigned as Pope, and died in office as Pope. Nor does it explain why God allowed that to happen.

Additionally, those quotes fail to prove all those bad men weren't, in fact, bad. Which is the only way you actually could prove your interpretation of Church doctrine.

Like I said, good luck with that.

Yes, I'm sneering at you, looking down my metaphoric nose at you and being very arrogant indeed.

So I when I switch to Syraic (or something truly exotic like Enochian) and you can't follow it, (and I know you can't) does that make you "lazy", @Gesù è con noi?

Man, you're off your game tonight. You're falling flat even with conventional arguing.

Incidentally Denying your interpretations of Church doctrine and denying the doctrines themselves are two different things.

Disagreeing with the Church might be heresy and apostasy. Disagreeing with you is not. That's a Strawman Fallacy coupled with a Red-Herring. That's because you don't speak for The Church, never have, and thanks be to God never will. What you refuse to acknowledge is history proves your interpretation of doctrine and tradition to be wrong. Boo-hoo. Too bad. Show some supposedly "Christian" humility for a change, swallow your pride and admit you were wrong, even if it's just privately to yourself. Y'know.. since you "don't want to be contacted." an' all that.

Why did God allow those men to be Pope? Or the current one? Or the cardinals Francis is packing into the Curia? Why does God allow any evil in His Church or the world at large? *Shrug* it's an irrefutable fact that He has and does.

By the by, your butthurt name-calling is nothing more than an Ad Hominem Fallacy. Dressing it up in sanctimonious quasi-religious clerical vestments doesn't make it any less fallacious. Still laughably hypocritical, though.

Perhaps some good can come even from your double-standards. Maybe you'll recognize you have a lot more in common with our current pontiff than you'd like to admit.

Besides being a heretic and apostata you are lazy. Ultraviolet.
To make it easier to understand a lazy person like you, I summarize:

You are not Catholic because you deny the dogma of papal infallibility and the Magisterium of the Church.

No me gusta hablar en espanol, @Gesù è con noi I'm not even opening up Google translate for that.

Which brings us to one other thing history has taught me. When people are afraid of getting another beating, they hide. That includes hiding behind a foreign language... 'course what's really making my evening are all the replies I'm getting from a clown who "does not want to be contacted".

...and to think you're outraged that Pope Francis is supposedly a gutless, spineless hypocrite. The irony, the irony. ;-)

Ultraviolet Pues usted es un hereje que se opone al dogma de infalibilidad papal. Que en la historia existieron papas inmorales fue un tema que se discutió en ese dogma porque ellos no enseñaron la Herejía, es bien diferente a la herejía que usted profesa. Ahora asi como es IMPOSIBLE que un cuadrado se convierta en un circulo mucho menos uno que no es católico se puede convertir en un papa. Bergoglio ya era un hereje pertinaz , un cismático y un apostata auto excomulgado varias veces en Argentina así que ni siquiera estaba calificado para ser un simple monaguillo. Siga con su obstinación que lo llevar al mismo lugar de perdición que va a ir el apostata anti papa Bergoglio. Usted no es católico porque rechaza el Magisterio de la Iglesia que ha decretado que NI un hereje NI una mujer NI un niño pueden ser papas. Pero no se preocupe porque el papa suyo si es Bergoglio porque Bergoglio es el papa de la anti iglesia, de los herejes de los sodomitas, de los adúlteros, de los idolatras, de los ateos y de cuanto enemigo de Dios existe.

Gesù è con noi "Believing that a heretic can become a pope is not only a heresy..."
Unfortunately for your interpretation of canon law regarding heresies, it's already a matter of historical fact. What you (or anyone else) believes God allows doesn't change what He has already allowed to occur.

:Bergoglio IS NOT POPE"
You and all the other arm-chair canon lawyers really do need to review Argumentum Ad Nauseam. :D The reality is exactly what G. Orwell pointed out decades ago. Opinion is collective entity.. Meaning, Francis is Pope and will remain so, no matter what the naysayers claim.

As for -why- God allows someone like Francis to become Pope, that's a different subject entirely. Unlike you, I'm not arrogant enough to assume humanity is capable of accurately predicting God's actions, classifying them, and saying with certainty what He will or will not allow.

For you to successfully prove your case Gesu, you will have to show that every previous corrupt, degenerate, promiscuous Pope in history was in fact, blameless. Good luck with that.

Last time I checked sedevacantism was a heresy, too. ;-) I'm sure you have even more nonsense about why "Benedict didn't really resign because (BS BS BS)". Something even the former Pope has already publicly refuted. But of course you know better. :P

If it is known that Bergoglio with the pseudo Amazonian synod, with the Abu Dhabi apostate pact and with the heretical Amoris Laetitia is conspiring against Catholic doctrine to destroy the Church, that is to say that he has openly declared war on Jesus Christ and challenged God, It is no longer time to continue clarifying about the 'personal' heresies and apostasies of Bergoglio but it is time to take action and depose him. The papal infallibility dogma teaches that a pope is protected so as not to teach the Church in a universal way the heresy in matters of faith and morals. The fact that Bergoglio in his heretical magisterium has taught heresy in Magisterial documents means that Bergoglio IS NOT POPE. Because the Holy Spirit does not assist him.
And the Holy Spirit does not assist him because Bergoglio was already a heretic in Argentina, being disqualified to legitimately be a pope.