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Francis Comments on Sedevacantism
You called sedevacantists heretics, but failed to explain why the belief that the See is vacant is a heresy. Numerous pre-Vatican 2 theologians (approved by the Holy See as theologians) commented that a period of sede vacante is not contrary to Christ's promise, nor is it contrary to Vatican I. Those theologians were never "corrected" by the pope, and so we have to assume their comments are, at the …More
You called sedevacantists heretics, but failed to explain why the belief that the See is vacant is a heresy. Numerous pre-Vatican 2 theologians (approved by the Holy See as theologians) commented that a period of sede vacante is not contrary to Christ's promise, nor is it contrary to Vatican I. Those theologians were never "corrected" by the pope, and so we have to assume their comments are, at the least, not wrong and thus acceptable to be held (I mean, if approved theologians can hold those positions, so can a layman).
You also fail to explain WHY sedevacantism exists. For instance, can a validly elected pope promulgate error officially? Can a valid Council of the Church contradict a Dogma of the Faith? Can a non-Catholic become pope? Can a pope promulgate a Liturgy based on heretical principles, borrowed from Lutherans?
Further, nealry all canonists commenting on the 1917 CIC held that one could reject a claimant to the Chair when they had good reason to presume his election was doubtful and not be guilty of heresy or schism.
You address none of these issues, which must be addressed before declaring sedevacantists heretics. You must also address the fact that the Church has ALWAYS held that public prayer with heretics, schismatics, Jews, and/or pagans is an act on pertinatious, manifest heresy...and every post-V2 has done so (especially JPII, BXVI, and Francis).
You also fail to explain WHY sedevacantism exists. For instance, can a validly elected pope promulgate error officially? Can a valid Council of the Church contradict a Dogma of the Faith? Can a non-Catholic become pope? Can a pope promulgate a Liturgy based on heretical principles, borrowed from Lutherans?
Further, nealry all canonists commenting on the 1917 CIC held that one could reject a claimant to the Chair when they had good reason to presume his election was doubtful and not be guilty of heresy or schism.
You address none of these issues, which must be addressed before declaring sedevacantists heretics. You must also address the fact that the Church has ALWAYS held that public prayer with heretics, schismatics, Jews, and/or pagans is an act on pertinatious, manifest heresy...and every post-V2 has done so (especially JPII, BXVI, and Francis).
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Homosex-Activist Tobin Accepts Orthodox Polygamy
Whoever signed that document is not Catholic. The Catholic Church has held, at least since St. Peter, that heretics and schismatics, being outside the Church, have absolutely no authority. They cannot licitly offer Mass, nor can they licitly hear confessions. Further, they cannot licitly witness weddings, not can their bishops confer confirmation. Their bishops, while actual bishops, have no …More
Whoever signed that document is not Catholic. The Catholic Church has held, at least since St. Peter, that heretics and schismatics, being outside the Church, have absolutely no authority. They cannot licitly offer Mass, nor can they licitly hear confessions. Further, they cannot licitly witness weddings, not can their bishops confer confirmation. Their bishops, while actual bishops, have no jurisdiction, supplied or otherwise, and thus cannot have a marriage tribunal, cannot declare on nullity, and cannot declare on matters of Faith and morals.
Note well: those who, like Nighty-Night Tobin, will accept as licit and valid declarations of schismatics and heretics will also tell you that you confirmations, weddings, and confessions of sedevacantist priests are invalid, and you cannot go to them. In other words, those who absolutely reject Dogmas of the faith, like the primacy of the See of Peter, are totally fine. Those who uphold ALL the dogmas of the Faith are not.
If St. Eusebius, as a layman, can declare, during the homily of Nestorius in which he uttered his blasphemous heresy, "Heresy! We have no bishop!" We can rest assured that we have the SAME observational power, and the same responsibility. The Archdiocese of Newark is headless.
Note well: those who, like Nighty-Night Tobin, will accept as licit and valid declarations of schismatics and heretics will also tell you that you confirmations, weddings, and confessions of sedevacantist priests are invalid, and you cannot go to them. In other words, those who absolutely reject Dogmas of the faith, like the primacy of the See of Peter, are totally fine. Those who uphold ALL the dogmas of the Faith are not.
If St. Eusebius, as a layman, can declare, during the homily of Nestorius in which he uttered his blasphemous heresy, "Heresy! We have no bishop!" We can rest assured that we have the SAME observational power, and the same responsibility. The Archdiocese of Newark is headless.
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After Francis: Roman Diocese Is in Shambles
Lumen Gentium destroyed the concept of Holy Orders for Conciliarists. The new rite, at least for bishops, focuses on "administration" and "governing", not completing the ministry of a priest. Which is fine, because, according to the theology of the Novus Ordo, the priest doesn't offer the Mass, the assembly does (this is why the Novus Ordo isn't supposed to have private Masses: the priest doesn't …More
Lumen Gentium destroyed the concept of Holy Orders for Conciliarists. The new rite, at least for bishops, focuses on "administration" and "governing", not completing the ministry of a priest. Which is fine, because, according to the theology of the Novus Ordo, the priest doesn't offer the Mass, the assembly does (this is why the Novus Ordo isn't supposed to have private Masses: the priest doesn't offer the Mass), but a president of an assembly.
BXVI's Summorum Pontificum allowed Conciliar clerics to experience the priesthood, and, if the reports are correct, they LOVED it. However, seeing as Bergoglio rightly holds that V2 and the Mass of Ages cannot coexist. Conciliar clerics are little more than social workers, it seems.
BXVI's Summorum Pontificum allowed Conciliar clerics to experience the priesthood, and, if the reports are correct, they LOVED it. However, seeing as Bergoglio rightly holds that V2 and the Mass of Ages cannot coexist. Conciliar clerics are little more than social workers, it seems.
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Understanding Freemasons: Coccopalmerio Has "Evolved"
Cocopuffs isn't wrong. In 1962-1965, there was much praise by Freemasons concerning the Conciliar revolution, namely in Unitatis Reditegratio, Nostra Aetate, and Dignitatis Humanae. Since then, we've had Koran kissing popes, popes participate in pagan rituals/blessings, bishops participate in Jewish religious rituals, culminating with Bergoglio and his "God wills the plurality of religions". We've …More
Cocopuffs isn't wrong. In 1962-1965, there was much praise by Freemasons concerning the Conciliar revolution, namely in Unitatis Reditegratio, Nostra Aetate, and Dignitatis Humanae. Since then, we've had Koran kissing popes, popes participate in pagan rituals/blessings, bishops participate in Jewish religious rituals, culminating with Bergoglio and his "God wills the plurality of religions". We've also seen the episcopacy embrace their role as CEOs of NGOs, and cheerleaders for globalist, anti-human agendas sponsored by the EU, the UN, the WEF, the US Congress, etc.
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Cardinal: Fiducia Supplicans is Contrary to the Church's Teaching
Option 4) is contrary to a) the Magisterium of the Church in relation to the Pope (the pope being the proximate rule of faith), b) contrary to the Magisterium in relation to heretics (manifest, pertinatious heretics are ipso facto outside the Church and not considered Catholic).
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Option 4) is contrary to a) the Magisterium of the Church in relation to the Pope (the pope being the proximate rule of faith), b) contrary to the Magisterium in relation to heretics (manifest, pertinatious heretics are ipso facto outside the Church and not considered Catholic).
Popes from Gregory XVI to Pius XII all held that the Pope's teaching were trustworthy for all the faithful, teachings which run contrary to proposed option 4. The idea that laymen have to shift through a Pope's teaching to see what is consistent with Tradition flies in the face of what pre-1958 popes understood of the Office of the Papacy. In the words of Leo XIII "I am the Tradition."
Popes from Gregory XVI to Pius XII all held that the Pope's teaching were trustworthy for all the faithful, teachings which run contrary to proposed option 4. The idea that laymen have to shift through a Pope's teaching to see what is consistent with Tradition flies in the face of what pre-1958 popes understood of the Office of the Papacy. In the words of Leo XIII "I am the Tradition."
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Cardinal: Fiducia Supplicans is Contrary to the Church's Teaching
So...what Mueller is saying is that a man claiming to be pope has officially taught heresy (that is what a statement contrary to the teachings of the Church is). There are, thus, only three possibilities:
1) Jorge Bergoglio is not now and never was Supreme Roman Pontiff of the Catholic Church,
2) Jorge Bergoglio IS the Roman Pontiff and the Church has defected,
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So...what Mueller is saying is that a man claiming to be pope has officially taught heresy (that is what a statement contrary to the teachings of the Church is). There are, thus, only three possibilities:
1) Jorge Bergoglio is not now and never was Supreme Roman Pontiff of the Catholic Church,
2) Jorge Bergoglio IS the Roman Pontiff and the Church has defected,
3) Jorge Bergoglio IS head of a church, but that church is not the Holy Catholic Church.
Options 1 and 3 are not mutually exclusive, and option 3 is supported by Paul VI ("new Mass for a new church"), JPII ("new pope for a new church"), and BXVI (2019 letter to German priests, wherein he says the goal of him and his colleagues at V2 was the creation of a new church).
1) Jorge Bergoglio is not now and never was Supreme Roman Pontiff of the Catholic Church,
2) Jorge Bergoglio IS the Roman Pontiff and the Church has defected,
3) Jorge Bergoglio IS head of a church, but that church is not the Holy Catholic Church.
Options 1 and 3 are not mutually exclusive, and option 3 is supported by Paul VI ("new Mass for a new church"), JPII ("new pope for a new church"), and BXVI (2019 letter to German priests, wherein he says the goal of him and his colleagues at V2 was the creation of a new church).
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Cardinal Roche Is an Evasive Prelate
No, he has already STATED the truth: the NO is NOT consistent with Catholic theology on the Mass (or even the Blessed Sacrament). He just doesn't want to be bothered with the possibility of being pinned down to explicitly state that in clear words. Modernists hide behind obfuscation and vaguery.
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Cardinal Roche Is an Evasive Prelate
Read the late Fr. Anthony Chekada's "Work of Human Hands: a Theological Critique of the Mass of Paul VI". Yes, the theology of V2 is NOT Catholic, the NO is based on heretical, heterodox, and erroneous ideas concerning the Liturgy, and it was put in place to cement to innovations of Vatican II...according to the "reformers" themselves. Roche is the first Conciliar cleric to actually admit that.
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Read the late Fr. Anthony Chekada's "Work of Human Hands: a Theological Critique of the Mass of Paul VI". Yes, the theology of V2 is NOT Catholic, the NO is based on heretical, heterodox, and erroneous ideas concerning the Liturgy, and it was put in place to cement to innovations of Vatican II...according to the "reformers" themselves. Roche is the first Conciliar cleric to actually admit that.
The Catholic Church exists to bring souls to God for their salvation. The Conciliar church exists to bring man to himself and make him a god.
The Catholic Church exists to bring souls to God for their salvation. The Conciliar church exists to bring man to himself and make him a god.
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Priest Arrested After Homosex Orgie
I think if you follow the trail, you will find that all those perverts Bergoglio has promoted have been know to him when he was in Argentina. It is possible that those promotions are part of a perverted form of "omerta", where the mafia would place as officers men who had many skeletons that the don could use as blackmail. That's how perverts work.
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Bombshell: Tucho Likes Violent Pornography – Other Porn Book Discovered
This was written in 1998. That means the book at least received the tacit approval by his superiors (which I presume included Jorge). It was not condemned by Ratzinger's CDF, which it should have.
[I admit that it is possible the CDF was not made aware of it. That creates its own problem: no one in Argentina, ncluding Jorge, thought it bad enough to be sent to the CDF for review.]More
This was written in 1998. That means the book at least received the tacit approval by his superiors (which I presume included Jorge). It was not condemned by Ratzinger's CDF, which it should have.
[I admit that it is possible the CDF was not made aware of it. That creates its own problem: no one in Argentina, ncluding Jorge, thought it bad enough to be sent to the CDF for review.]
[I admit that it is possible the CDF was not made aware of it. That creates its own problem: no one in Argentina, ncluding Jorge, thought it bad enough to be sent to the CDF for review.]
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Francis' Obsession with Vestments Continues
Pope Pius XII teaches the perrenial doctrine of the Church that the Church of Christ IS the Catholic Church, and visible, "institutional" Church is the same as the Mystical Body of Christ. Both are, as Christ is, fully Divine and fully Human. As Christ is, both are incorruptible and indefectible. If what is visible is corrupt, then it can not be the Catholic Church.
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Pope Pius XII teaches the perrenial doctrine of the Church that the Church of Christ IS the Catholic Church, and visible, "institutional" Church is the same as the Mystical Body of Christ. Both are, as Christ is, fully Divine and fully Human. As Christ is, both are incorruptible and indefectible. If what is visible is corrupt, then it can not be the Catholic Church.
Yes, certain members can be corrupt. Yes, there can be policies and practices can be imperfect. However, the Church, the Church of Christ, CANNOT produce universal laws, practices, teachings, etc that can 1) contradict what has been taught before, 2) are vague in their formulation, and thus can lead souls astray, or 3) actively lead souls to sin and away from God. Christ founded His Church with the express mission of the salvation of souls, and that Church is guided in this mission by the Holy Ghost. To think that the Church can be corrupt is to say the Church is not the Church of Christ.
Yes, certain members can be corrupt. Yes, there can be policies and practices can be imperfect. However, the Church, the Church of Christ, CANNOT produce universal laws, practices, teachings, etc that can 1) contradict what has been taught before, 2) are vague in their formulation, and thus can lead souls astray, or 3) actively lead souls to sin and away from God. Christ founded His Church with the express mission of the salvation of souls, and that Church is guided in this mission by the Holy Ghost. To think that the Church can be corrupt is to say the Church is not the Church of Christ.
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Francis' Obsession with Vestments Continues
I don't really get Bergoglio's disrespect for Ratzinger. Ratzinger demonstrated much of the same sentiments immediately after Vatican 2 that Bergoglio has said now. BXVI was all for the new rites, and transforming the church into something different, saying the "old ways of doing things" don't work, and we can't be so rigid. Heck, he was upset that V2 relied so heavily on the heretic and excommunicated …More
I don't really get Bergoglio's disrespect for Ratzinger. Ratzinger demonstrated much of the same sentiments immediately after Vatican 2 that Bergoglio has said now. BXVI was all for the new rites, and transforming the church into something different, saying the "old ways of doing things" don't work, and we can't be so rigid. Heck, he was upset that V2 relied so heavily on the heretic and excommunicated de Chardin, instead the heretic and excommunicated Martin Luther. Perhaps its because Ratzinger was more muted in his revolutionary mindset than Bergoglio?
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Francis' Obsession with Vestments Continues
Bergoglio's health is, I believe, a "false flag". He used his bad knees to explain why he doesn't show any reverence at the Novus Ordo, yet has no problems kissing the feet of Muhammadan women prisoners, or migrants. He admitted in 2013 that " liturgy is not my thing ". Liturgy wasn't Luther's thing, or de Chardin's thing, or Calvin's thing, or Cranmer's thing either.
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Another FSSPX-Priorate Indicates: Consecration of New Bishops Ahead
That isn't what the article said. It said that the SSPX will need to consecrations soon, not that it is in the works. That said, the piece is less than trustworthy because it calls sedevacantism a "movement", when it is a theological position. Further, it presumes the authority to declare sedevacantist bishops invalidly consecrated without providing any details (nor having any authority to do so),…More
That isn't what the article said. It said that the SSPX will need to consecrations soon, not that it is in the works. That said, the piece is less than trustworthy because it calls sedevacantism a "movement", when it is a theological position. Further, it presumes the authority to declare sedevacantist bishops invalidly consecrated without providing any details (nor having any authority to do so), and then states that there are over 40 men claiming to be " pope", again without details. That last one is funny, because you can't say you are sedevacantist and call someone "pope". Terrible job on this.
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Israeli Army Murdered Two Innocent Catholic Women
You are on a Catholic site, so I presume you are Catholic. The Church teaches that the "new Israel" is the Catholic Church. Why? Because the Church is the heir of Abraham by faith. Didn't Our Lord explicitly tell the Pharisees that He could raise of "children of Abraham" from rocks because of their unbelief? This is why the great Doctors of the Church were able to explain that the promise of Abraham …More
You are on a Catholic site, so I presume you are Catholic. The Church teaches that the "new Israel" is the Catholic Church. Why? Because the Church is the heir of Abraham by faith. Didn't Our Lord explicitly tell the Pharisees that He could raise of "children of Abraham" from rocks because of their unbelief? This is why the great Doctors of the Church were able to explain that the promise of Abraham is to his children in faith, not blood. It is also why Pope St. Pius X refused to support a Jewish state in Palestine: they deny Christ, and thus have separated themselves from the promises of God. Palestine doesn't, by right, belong to the Jews, but the Successor of Peter, the visible Head of the Church on Earth, which is the New Israel.
The notion that somehow a political entity for Jews is an eternal promise is relatively new in Scriptural hermeneutic, supported first by anti-Catholic Protestants (Scofield was a Protestant), but also occult Satanists (his assistant was into Satanism). It is not supported by any sound Catholic theology at all. To believe that somehow, pefidious Jews have a still valid covenant, despite their perfidy, is blasphemy to Our Lord.
The notion that somehow a political entity for Jews is an eternal promise is relatively new in Scriptural hermeneutic, supported first by anti-Catholic Protestants (Scofield was a Protestant), but also occult Satanists (his assistant was into Satanism). It is not supported by any sound Catholic theology at all. To believe that somehow, pefidious Jews have a still valid covenant, despite their perfidy, is blasphemy to Our Lord.
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Israeli Army Murdered Two Innocent Catholic Women
The idea of " Biblical inheritance " is a late 19th Century invention of Zionists, traced to the infamous "Scofield Bible", a project funded by Zionist Talmudists with the express intention of creating a Christian call for an Talmudist state in Palestine.
The bottom line is that "Judaism" ended at Calvary, and those self-titled Jews actually follow a blasphemous text called the Talmud, which calls …More
The idea of " Biblical inheritance " is a late 19th Century invention of Zionists, traced to the infamous "Scofield Bible", a project funded by Zionist Talmudists with the express intention of creating a Christian call for an Talmudist state in Palestine.
The bottom line is that "Judaism" ended at Calvary, and those self-titled Jews actually follow a blasphemous text called the Talmud, which calls for the extermination of Christianity, and is borderline Satanic. The Talmud is so vile, it has been on the Index of Forbidden Books for centuries. Popes have likewise been against the idea of a Zionist state, as their covenant ended with Christ, and the only way for Talmudists to enter into the Saving Covenant is to abjure their errors, be baptized.
The bottom line is that "Judaism" ended at Calvary, and those self-titled Jews actually follow a blasphemous text called the Talmud, which calls for the extermination of Christianity, and is borderline Satanic. The Talmud is so vile, it has been on the Index of Forbidden Books for centuries. Popes have likewise been against the idea of a Zionist state, as their covenant ended with Christ, and the only way for Talmudists to enter into the Saving Covenant is to abjure their errors, be baptized.
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Quimper: Fraternity of Saint Peter to Be Evicted
I notice the distinction between a "Eucharist" and the Mass. Protestants celebrate a Eucharist, Catholics offer the Mass. So, the diocese wants a protestant service instead of Holy Mass.
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Francis Has Given Up on Celebrating Eucharists
He has demonstrated that he is unwilling to show respect to the Blessed Sacrament, bordering on demonstrating he does not believe in the Real Presence. His excuse? Sore knees. He IS however, able to bend down and kiss the feet of Muhammadan criminals, etc.
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He has demonstrated that he is unwilling to show respect to the Blessed Sacrament, bordering on demonstrating he does not believe in the Real Presence. His excuse? Sore knees. He IS however, able to bend down and kiss the feet of Muhammadan criminals, etc.
I suspect, based on his previous statements and actions, that he doesn't care anymore.
I suspect, based on his previous statements and actions, that he doesn't care anymore.
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Francis Has Given Up on Celebrating Eucharists
What is "celebrating Eucharist"? Catholics don't " celebrate Eucharist", we offer Mass.
Mass is the unbloody sacrifice of Christ at Calvary, offered to the Father in expiation for our sins. It is not a communal meal. It is not a "celebration" per se. That was defined, definitively, at the Council of Trent.
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What is "celebrating Eucharist"? Catholics don't " celebrate Eucharist", we offer Mass.
Mass is the unbloody sacrifice of Christ at Calvary, offered to the Father in expiation for our sins. It is not a communal meal. It is not a "celebration" per se. That was defined, definitively, at the Council of Trent.
However, I suspect a good many clerics "celebrate Eucharist" instead of offering Mass. Such should be evident in their actions and statements. Bergoglio has not demonstrated a belief in the Real Presence, and so him NOT going through the motions isn't any different than him going through the motions...
Mass is the unbloody sacrifice of Christ at Calvary, offered to the Father in expiation for our sins. It is not a communal meal. It is not a "celebration" per se. That was defined, definitively, at the Council of Trent.
However, I suspect a good many clerics "celebrate Eucharist" instead of offering Mass. Such should be evident in their actions and statements. Bergoglio has not demonstrated a belief in the Real Presence, and so him NOT going through the motions isn't any different than him going through the motions...
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Another Cardinal Buries Traditionis Custodes
@Irishpol It is my hypothesis that Bergoglio is using the FSSP and ICKSP to herd faithful Catholics to the SSPX, then excommunicate everyone who attends an SSPX Mass. Thus, kicking actual Catholics out of the "Catholic Church".
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@Irishpol It is my hypothesis that Bergoglio is using the FSSP and ICKSP to herd faithful Catholics to the SSPX, then excommunicate everyone who attends an SSPX Mass. Thus, kicking actual Catholics out of the "Catholic Church".
The FSSP and ICK are beholden to the diocesan ordinaries, who are beholden to Bergoglio. All he needs to do is instruct the priests of the FSSP and ICK to say the NO ONCE a year, with the diocesan clergy. Some will, others will leave and probably join the SSPX. Many laity will be disillusioned and follow. Many local bishops will not hesitate to kick the FSSP or ICK out of their dioceses (In many places, FSSP and ICK priests are more highly esteemed as "good priests", and out diocesan priests to shame).
The FSSP and ICK are beholden to the diocesan ordinaries, who are beholden to Bergoglio. All he needs to do is instruct the priests of the FSSP and ICK to say the NO ONCE a year, with the diocesan clergy. Some will, others will leave and probably join the SSPX. Many laity will be disillusioned and follow. Many local bishops will not hesitate to kick the FSSP or ICK out of their dioceses (In many places, FSSP and ICK priests are more highly esteemed as "good priests", and out diocesan priests to shame).