en.news
152.8K

After 23 Years: French Archbishop Expels Fraternity of Saint Peter

Months before his mandatory retirement, Dijon Archbishop Roland Minnerath, 74, France, is expelling the Fraternity of St Peter (FSSP) from his archdiocese.

The two priests have to leave by September. Riposte-catholique.fr has obtained a June 3 letter of Father Roch Perrel, the superior in Dijon, to the about 300 faithful, likely the most frequented parish in town.

The FSSP has celebrated daily Mass in Dijon for the past 23 years, including catechism classes and all other parish activities, “All this could disappear with a stroke of the pen? Without any consultation?”, the letter asks. The Fraternity is celebrating Mass at the splendid Saint Bernard's Convent and Basilica in Fontaine-lès-Dijon which was built at the birthplace of Saint Bernard of Clairvaux (+1153) and overlooks Dijon.

The French District Superior Father Benoît Paul-Joseph has asked Archbishop Minnerath for a meeting writing that his decision “seems” profoundly unjust. So far his request was not granted. In Dijon, there is also a PiusX priory which runs a school but owns no proper church. Further, two diocesan priests are [still] celebrating occasionally the Roman Mass.

Archbishop Minnerath hails from a German speaking part of France. He has served as a Vatican diplomat and at the Secretary of State from 1980 to 1988. After that he was Professor for Church History in Strasbourg. He belonged to the neo-conservative circles around John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger.

#newsIocrrrloid

  • Report

  • Social media

  • Change post

  • Remove post

en.news links to this post
De Profundis
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

For our irony files, who said: "If this tradition [of clerical celibacy] deprives communities of priests, to the point of bringing them to the brink of extinction, then why not let it evolve?"
Ave Crux
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

Precisely why we are blessed to still have the SSPX when the persecution grows even more widespread.
Ave Crux links to this post
Ultraviolet
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

@Fr Dan Please quote the article where it says the Archbishop is replacing a Fraternity in full communion with the Church with a Society then-Pope Benedict XVI formally delcared has "no canonical status in the Church" and whose priests "do not legitimately exrecise any ministry in the Church". Much obliged.
123jussi
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

It is amazing how the folks with little or no moral standing in the Church can point out the problematic canonical standing of others. Given the choice I will go with those with moral standing and not worry so much about what Benedict said.
Matt Warner
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

@Ultrviolet , I think what Fr Dan was simply saying was that with the FSSP gone, the only other place for people to get the Latin Mass is going to be the SSPX.
Ultraviolet
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

Your charity does you credit @Matt Warner "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." :)
@123jussi My moral standing is between me and my confessor. However, I remain a Catholic in full communion with the Church, which is more than the SSPX can say. Benedict XVI was, at the time, the Pope. Given his character, it's baffling how you could imply the man has "little or no …More
Your charity does you credit @Matt Warner "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." :)

@123jussi My moral standing is between me and my confessor. However, I remain a Catholic in full communion with the Church, which is more than the SSPX can say. Benedict XVI was, at the time, the Pope. Given his character, it's baffling how you could imply the man has "little or no moral standing."

Criticizing me (or Benedict) does not in any way diminish the validity of my observation or his ruling as Pope. What you've made is a fairly common error in reasoning. Pic related.
123jussi
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

For a pope who didn't tell the truth about Fatima,participated in the coverup of the third secret,allowed pervert cardinals to roam the world spreading their perversion,did nothing about the heretics , assisted in the destruction of the Church in Germany by befriending the heretics there, and then resigned for who knows what reasons , and let Frankie and the boys continue the destruction....I will …More
For a pope who didn't tell the truth about Fatima,participated in the coverup of the third secret,allowed pervert cardinals to roam the world spreading their perversion,did nothing about the heretics , assisted in the destruction of the Church in Germany by befriending the heretics there, and then resigned for who knows what reasons , and let Frankie and the boys continue the destruction....I will take Bernard Fellay anytime and btw he and they are in full communion,the just refuse to play the Masonic tune the rest of the church members are engaged in.
Ultraviolet
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

Bad decisions on the part of a Pope (whichever Pope you're indirectly referring to) does not negate the legitimacy of his authority or his office. Likewise, his decisions do not allow Father Martin Luther or Bishop Fellay to start making decisions beyond their lawful authority.
"btw he and they are in full communion."
That, no doubt explains their excommunication. While that might have been lifted …More
Bad decisions on the part of a Pope (whichever Pope you're indirectly referring to) does not negate the legitimacy of his authority or his office. Likewise, his decisions do not allow Father Martin Luther or Bishop Fellay to start making decisions beyond their lawful authority.

"btw he and they are in full communion."

That, no doubt explains their excommunication. While that might have been lifted as an act of profound Papal clemency from Benedict XVI, he and the rest of his malcontents are anything but "in full communion". This is how SSPX fan-boys resort to falsehoods trying to legitimize their "Society".
Ave Crux
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

@Matt Warner You're exactly right. I have friends in areas of the country where the Bishops are so opposed to Tradition they are more like ravenous wolves than shepherds.
They only have access to the Traditional Faith and the Traditional Mass and Sacraments because SSPX Priests set up mission chapels there.
The SSPX Priests are so dedicated that they will spend hours driving the mission circuit …More
@Matt Warner You're exactly right. I have friends in areas of the country where the Bishops are so opposed to Tradition they are more like ravenous wolves than shepherds.

They only have access to the Traditional Faith and the Traditional Mass and Sacraments because SSPX Priests set up mission chapels there.

The SSPX Priests are so dedicated that they will spend hours driving the mission circuit each week to ensure that souls are not left abandoned to the insanities of Modernism.

My friend's local parishes are so apostate that they preached against the Real Presence. Fortunately, she lives within an hour of an SSPX Chapel and attends Mass there.
Fr Dan
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

Exit FSSP, ENTER SSPX
가입을 원합니다
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

Exit FSSP, ENTER SSPX //
Some Korean Catholics are waiting for American FSSP but Korean bishops never admit.
Matt Warner 's comment : I think what Fr Dan was simply saying was that with the FSSP gone, the only other place for people to get the Latin Mass is going to be the SSPX.
// May I ask this is correct ?
And.. Pray for that Korean Church problem please. (my profile)More
Exit FSSP, ENTER SSPX //

Some Korean Catholics are waiting for American FSSP but Korean bishops never admit.

Matt Warner 's comment : I think what Fr Dan was simply saying was that with the FSSP gone, the only other place for people to get the Latin Mass is going to be the SSPX.
// May I ask this is correct ?

And.. Pray for that Korean Church problem please. (my profile)
Defeat Modernism
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

This is what happens when you compromise with the enemies of the Church. When you attempt to put the true mass on the same level as the illicit and invalid new 'mass.' I'm happy to see the FSSP get kicked out, perhaps those priests will wake up and repent of what they did to Catholic Tradition and the SSPX in signing an agreement with the Modernist Heretics who illicitly occupy Rome, the dioceses,…More
This is what happens when you compromise with the enemies of the Church. When you attempt to put the true mass on the same level as the illicit and invalid new 'mass.' I'm happy to see the FSSP get kicked out, perhaps those priests will wake up and repent of what they did to Catholic Tradition and the SSPX in signing an agreement with the Modernist Heretics who illicitly occupy Rome, the dioceses, the churches and cathedrals that rightfully belong to true Catholics and not to these Judeo-Masonic Homo-Pedophiles dressed up in cassocks and clerical garb. This 'Archbishop' is a faithless modernist who is not a Catholic just as Francis is not a Catholic.
Ultraviolet
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

Fact Check #1: The Church teaches both forms of the Mass are equally valid.
Fact Check #2: Your accusation the current Church leaders are "Modernist Heretics who illicitly occupy Rome etc. " and " Francis is not a Catholic" undeniably IS heresy under Canon Law 751.
"these Judeo-Masonic Homo-Pedophiles"
It's difficult to count all the logical fallacies you've made in that one epically stupid …More
Fact Check #1: The Church teaches both forms of the Mass are equally valid.

Fact Check #2: Your accusation the current Church leaders are "Modernist Heretics who illicitly occupy Rome etc. " and " Francis is not a Catholic" undeniably IS heresy under Canon Law 751.

"these Judeo-Masonic Homo-Pedophiles"

It's difficult to count all the logical fallacies you've made in that one epically stupid statement. :D Short version, zero proof supplied on your part, the FSSP aren't modernists, nor are they pedophiles. If anything the SSPX has a more notable bad-record on that subject than the FSSP.

Lastly, you really need to read GTV's Announcement addressing such statements about The Pope and the clergy..
HerzMariae
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

The FSSP was given no explanation of any kind. The Archbishop offered no reason for this decision and has refused to grant an interview to the French Superior of the order.
Dr Bobus
  • Report

  • Change comment

  • Remove comment

So the same crowd always crying for dialogue forgets all about it once they have power.
Login
Create accountForgot password?