I-II Century AD; Syria, Roman Empire/Rome, Roman Empire - St. Ignatius of Antioch ~~~ Wherever Jesus Christ is...
Fatima 1916
Then, getting up, the Angel took the Chalice and Host. He gave Lucy the Sacred Host on the TONGUE. Then while giving the Precious Blood from the Chalice to Francisco and Jacinta, he said:
“Eat and drink the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, horribly outraged by ungrateful men. Make reparation for their crimes and console your God.” Then, prostrating himself on the ground he repeated with the children three times the same prayer: Most Holy Trinity, etc., and disappeared.
Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, I adore Thee profoundly, and I offer Thee the Most Precious Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of the same Son Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the world, in reparation for all the outrages, sacrileges, and indifference by which He Himself is offended. And by the infinite merits of His Most Sacred Heart and through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of Thee the conversion of poor sinners
@john333... Jesus said "take and eat". You say "open your mouth and stick out your tongue". I will stick with Jesus whom you say is beyond logic.
@123jussi...IT IS IN THE BIBLE..."Take and eat'. How can you deny that and say it is evil.
“Whoever eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are ill and infirm, and a considerable number are dying.” (I Cor. 11:27-30)
It is not be handled like common food
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@123jussi, john333, V.R.S.
Yall are completely wrong. I had hoped that yall were knowledgeable and enlightened Catholics. I am very disappointed. See these 2 Communion in the Hand proofs…
“Well, here again we know that until the ninth century communion was received in the hand, standing.”(Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger/ Pope Benedict XVI, “God is Near Us”, Ignatius Press, page 70).
“As a scholar of the early Church, I was surprised to learn that the practice of communion in the hand is such a hotly debated topic; it came to my attention during the early days of the pandemic, when many dioceses required communicants to receive in this way. Whatever one thinks about the practice today and its reemergence after Vatican II, it is important that our conversation be grounded in an accurate picture of the history of this practice. Receiving communion in the hand was the common practice of the Church in both East and West for the first 800 years of Christianity, and it was certainly considered reverent by the Fathers.” Early Christian Communion in the Hand | Church Life Journal | University of Notre Dame , Copyright © 2025 University of Notre Dame
The mystics who had visions of the first communion at the Last Supper testify that Christ placed the morsels of Communion in the mouths of the Apostles. For example read Ann Catherine Emmerich ,it doesn't get any more original than what Christ Himself did. Did things change later on? Yes but they also ate and drank at their gatherings and we don't do that any more either.
@123jussi...you believe in unverified mystics instead of the Bible and 2 historical proofs. You are the opposite of knowledgeable and enlightened Catholics. That is otherwise known as stupid.
@john333...your quote..."I agree 100% communion in the hand is evil". This quote of yours "proves" that Satin has overcome the Holy Eucharist and made it evil. Therefore, the Gates of hell have prevailed against Jesus Christ according to you. Good luck with that on judgement day.
@ Chris your quote “this proves Satin…” does not even logically follow.
Receiving communion in the state of Mortal sin (which is probably the majority of nominal Catholics these days) is objectively evil. It doesn’t follow that the Gates of Hell have prevailed over the Church. Communion in the hand can still be an evil affront to the dignity of Christ without harming the perpetuity of the Church. I wish Catholics everywhere could agree to stop using this stupid argument. Stop hijacking Christ’s sacred promise to prove your point. As if ANYONE can really know what trials Christ will permit the Church to endure while still fulfilling his promise. STOP IT!
@Anthony November...STOP WITH FRUITLESS ARGUMENTS. If Communion in the Hand is evil then the Body and Blood are evil ie the Catholic Church allows an evil Holy Eucharist. STOP TRYING TO EXCUSE IT. You and yours are the ones denigrating the Holy Eucharist to the point of evil. STOP.
The Holy Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ. STOP CALLING IT EVIL otherwise Satan has prevailed. STOP IT!!!
Chris no one is saying that the Eucharist is evil. God forbid such blasphemy.
The argument they are making is that reception in the hand is an abuse and should be avoided as the church taught for many hundreds of years. The evil lies in people treating the most Holy Eucharist without due reverence.
@Anthony November...that is your opinion, it is not Church teaching and the Catholic Church heartly disagrees with you. The Church never "taught for many hundreds of years" never. You said it is "evil affront to the dignity of Christ" so even you called it evil which means that the gates of Hell did prevail over Jesus.
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PASCENDI DOMINICI GREGIS
Ratzinger betrayed his oath
Pascendi Dominici Gregis (September 8, 1907)
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Chris I misspoke, as far as I know you are correct that it was not church teaching. Rather it was church practice for hundreds of years. Maybe more. The peculiar manner in which communion in the hand was, as you imply, revived is also a testament to its impiousness. 2/3 of the world’s bishops did not agree with the practice. It was revived impiously without permission by rogues, only later to be granted permission in limited cases.
One more thing…
Sacrilege is the profaning of a sacred thing. It doesn’t thereby make the sacred thing evil. But harms those performing it.
St Paul says as much. Does every person sin by receiving in the hand? No. Is it pleasing to Christ? I doubt it.
Communion in the hand in this country was approved through fraud. You only need to do a little research and I can’t do it all for you here, but in the document authorizing it Paul the sixth x 3 pages begging people to maintain the practice of communion on the tongue, it was only the last paragraph where he caved in as they did for so many other things.
When Cardinal Bonarden first took the vote of the bishops, it was voted down, but he was not going to tolerate that and so he later, took a second vote where he included bishops who really had no right to vote as they were retarded disabled whatever and then, of course it passed It was kind of like a Biden election.
@john333... hi John. don't mean to be negative but Communion in the Hand was the original practice in the Church for the first 800 years, so it cannot be wrong. also your excellent comment ..."(follow your conscience)" stems from a horrible mistake in the Catechism. CCC 1800 says everyone MUST follow their conscience which is demonic. Thanks for your post.
you know them by their fruit belief in true presence all time low
As a baby its ok to eat with your hands not for mature adult in a fine dinning restaurant
East used a spoon
I am with the Angelic Doctor on this one
Using ancient practices as a norm today is heresy you can do same thing with confession.
Where the old Church today that did such practices (Turkey ,North Africa ,Middle east, Now western Europe after VII (fruits).Eating and drinking the body and blood without discerning you know the rest
St Clair pray for us
@john333... can never be that Communion in the hand is a heresy. It was AND STILL IS the Body and Blood of CHRIST. It is TO THIS DAY the consecrated bread and wine into the Body and blood of Christ.
yes it is by there fruits ,ever indicator proves this practice causes sacrilege
you don't use cup from home for the mass .Consecrated hands and vessels handle the Eucharist. Safe and reverence its not chewing gum. Ever knee shell bend
Don't treat it like a Big Mac .
work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
Philippians 2:12
@V.R.S....I showed you two unimpeachable proofs of Communion in the Hand was the practice of the church for the first 800 years. What you called a "lie" is actually the truth but you won't admit it because you are a ......
Great apostasy, tabernacle off to the side, Priest turns his back ,communion on the hand standing ,folk music ,Birth control allowed ( follow your conscience)
No mortal sin,(unworthy guilty of the body and blood).Novus odor clown show
@john333,,,your quote "unworthy guilty of the body and blood)" is your admission that Communion in the Hand is "unworthy guilt of the body and blood".
Therefore Satan has made Communion in the Hand unworthy and Satan has "prevailed" over Jesus Christ by allowing evil Holy Eucharist to be allowed by the Church to this day.
I would take that back if I were you...quickly.