Roman Diocese: Priests Pushed Aside
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Jan Joseph
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Paus Franciscus is de Rooms Katholieke kerk aan het vernietigen. Ik raad gelovige priesters aan over te stappen naar de Pius X of Petrusbroederschap.
Mark Maxwell Smith
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ouch that's gotta hurt :(
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Most N.O. parishes, the priest is a mid level employee, the boss is the parish council consisting of a lay board of administrators who tell father what to do. Before I found a traditional parish, I use to serve on a suburban parish council, and was amazed at how much power they have. Even the bishops will take their advice and wishes over and above the priest. I was the conservative contrarian who …More
Most N.O. parishes, the priest is a mid level employee, the boss is the parish council consisting of a lay board of administrators who tell father what to do. Before I found a traditional parish, I use to serve on a suburban parish council, and was amazed at how much power they have. Even the bishops will take their advice and wishes over and above the priest. I was the conservative contrarian who most of the time was out voted for siding with the priest and suggesting traditional minded elements in the parish.
John A Cassani
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That is definitely the case in most “active” parishes. It’s interesting: Canon Law does not require that there be a pastoral council, though it does require a finance council. The “requirement” for pastoral councils in parishes is enacted at the level of diocesan statutes.
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Interesting! I don't remember Canon Law even being discussed but I can see the necessity of a financial council for transparency, and no one could make false accusations i.e. mismanaging parish funds- against a good priest. However, I suppose a general council is dependent on the faith of the people. I happened to be a conservative/ traditional in a liberal parish with a moderate-pastor (liberal on …More
Interesting! I don't remember Canon Law even being discussed but I can see the necessity of a financial council for transparency, and no one could make false accusations i.e. mismanaging parish funds- against a good priest. However, I suppose a general council is dependent on the faith of the people. I happened to be a conservative/ traditional in a liberal parish with a moderate-pastor (liberal on some things, conservative on others), but if you had a orthodox-traditionalist parish council it could protect the parish against a new liberal priest that would want to "up date things to the Spirit of the Council".
Mz Perx124
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Sorry, as I know, the Cannon Law is mentioning the pastoral council, but that council has only the right to make proposals to the parish preiest. The last word is the parish priest decision. There is no any right for the council to decide, to vote or for veto. The parish priest is the only responsible for the parish pastoral or financial problems. He is named by the bishop. The lay council can make …More
Sorry, as I know, the Cannon Law is mentioning the pastoral council, but that council has only the right to make proposals to the parish preiest. The last word is the parish priest decision. There is no any right for the council to decide, to vote or for veto. The parish priest is the only responsible for the parish pastoral or financial problems. He is named by the bishop. The lay council can make problems for the parish priest with scandals outside, but not acording to the Canon Law.
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@Mz Perx124 kind of like when bishop Fellay asked Pope Benedict (according to Canon law), to exercise his Supreme Pontifical authority in correcting the damage that modernists in the Vatican had caused to the Catholic Faith, to which the pope replied that his authority didn't go further than that door.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
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I hope the Cardinal Vicar, who had been a Francis cheerleader, is not so stupid, brain-dead/brainwashed, as to still cheer that backstabber. Rather, if he had any sense, he'd join the growing list who are against Francis.
John A Cassani
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This is certainly not novel. I can’t think of a diocese today that has a priest in charge of financial matters. It’s not a good thing, though. Ordination confers Christ’s 3 munera: Priest, Prophet, and King. Finance comes under kingship. Priests are allowed to exercise kingship properly. We know that priests aren’t allowed to be prophets nowadays. It’s the quickest route to a call from the VG,…More
This is certainly not novel. I can’t think of a diocese today that has a priest in charge of financial matters. It’s not a good thing, though. Ordination confers Christ’s 3 munera: Priest, Prophet, and King. Finance comes under kingship. Priests are allowed to exercise kingship properly. We know that priests aren’t allowed to be prophets nowadays. It’s the quickest route to a call from the VG, and to be canceled. That leaves the priestly functions, which, to most of the average (c)atholics nowadays means to administer sacraments on demand, and graciously take photos. It’s not at all surprising that Rome is going the way of everywhere else.