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General Audience: Francis Blames His Public

We cannot expect to continue "to grow on a material level," without taking care of our "common home", Francis told a bored public during his September 16 General Audience.

He expressed his belief that "the poor" and “our mother earth" lament for the damage and injustice "we have caused.”

Francis asked for a "conversion" that doesn't regard Christ but "taking care of the earth," and urged his public to do penance to repair the evil "we have done" to "indigenous peoples."

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Zech4:6
Lutheran Bergolio, Hater of Christ and Pope to @Ultraviolet
traditioninaction.org/…volutionPhotos/A700-Luther.htm

But he's pope! Right? He just honors the biggest enemy of Christ since Judas.
Ultraviolet
In Erfurt Benedict presents Luther as a model for Catholics

"But he's pope! Right? He just honors the biggest enemy of Christ since Judas." @JamesMichaelYerian

Your point of criticism, your source, all condeming "your pope" as you might call him.

Except Benedict isn't Pope anymore. He's an ex-pope and you're a witless fool who doesn't check his sources. ;-)
Zech4:6
@Ultraviolet B16 didn't resign. And as I keep telling you Benedict is not a good pope. But he's pope. And Bergolio isn't. Oh, and Benedict never erected a statue of Luther on Vatican grounds.

-and B16 didn't deny the trinity, or insult the Mother of God, or say hell doesn't exist, or promote sodomy, or break the first commandment.

Of course I check my sources, you're just too daft to see the …More
@Ultraviolet B16 didn't resign. And as I keep telling you Benedict is not a good pope. But he's pope. And Bergolio isn't. Oh, and Benedict never erected a statue of Luther on Vatican grounds.

-and B16 didn't deny the trinity, or insult the Mother of God, or say hell doesn't exist, or promote sodomy, or break the first commandment.

Of course I check my sources, you're just too daft to see the larger points I'm making.

I'm in your head. I hope it doesn't affect your "work".
Ultraviolet
"B16 didn't resign." @JamesMichaelYerian

Pope Benedict Steps Down: Full Text Of His Resignation Letter

"But he's pope."

Benedict says otherwise.

""The only condition for the validity of my resignation is the complete freedom of my decision. Speculations regarding its validity are simply absurd." -Fr. Benedict, Former Pope.

"I no longer bear the power of office for the governance of the …More
"B16 didn't resign." @JamesMichaelYerian

Pope Benedict Steps Down: Full Text Of His Resignation Letter

"But he's pope."

Benedict says otherwise.

""The only condition for the validity of my resignation is the complete freedom of my decision. Speculations regarding its validity are simply absurd." -Fr. Benedict, Former Pope.

"I no longer bear the power of office for the governance of the Church" -last General Audience of Benedict XVI before his resignation took effect.

"And Bergolio isn't."

Benedict says otherwise again. :D

"I'm grateful to be bound by a great identity of views and a heartfelt friendship with Pope Francis. Today, I see my last and final job to support his pontificate with prayer."

"Oh, and Benedict never erected a statue of Luther on Vatican grounds."


But he DID present Luther as a role model which makes him little different than "Lutheran Bergoglio"

You know what's nice about "Jimmies"? One hard breath of factual info and they scatter every which way just like you're doing now. :D

"you're just too daft to see the larger points I'm making."

The point here is you just got contradicted by your "pope", using your source and your basis of accusation, i.e. "Lutheran".

So, in truth, the "larger point" is you don't know what you're talking about. :D
Ultraviolet
Francis is as hung up on his environmental agenda as Jimmy is with his sedevacantist propaganda. The big question is which of the two is crazier? Believe it or not, I'm actually betting on Francis. :D
Zech4:6
Sedevacantists believe the chair is vacant. It isn't. B16 is pope.
Ultraviolet
Benedict says otherwise, starting with the name and ending with the claim.
...and no, I didn't plan that catchy little jingle, either. :D
Zech4:6
Except Benedict still gives the papal blessing (bild.de/…-his-church-57358166.bild.html) and is addressed as "His Holiness" by current Vatican officials. But he is totes resigned.

Look, @Ultraviolet it's so obvious you support a sodomite communist who hates Jesus Christ in Bergolio. From your excusing everything he says as a "mistake" you obviously support his agenda. Just come out of the …More
Except Benedict still gives the papal blessing (bild.de/…-his-church-57358166.bild.html) and is addressed as "His Holiness" by current Vatican officials. But he is totes resigned.

Look, @Ultraviolet it's so obvious you support a sodomite communist who hates Jesus Christ in Bergolio. From your excusing everything he says as a "mistake" you obviously support his agenda. Just come out of the closet and admit that you, too, hate The Catholic Church. At least then you'll have a tad more dignity.
Ultraviolet
Your own source contradicts you. :D First sentence. Five years ago, Pope Benedict XVI (91) resigned.. Followed by "written by the retired Pope" Followed by a direct quote from Benedict himself "I can very well understand the deep-seated pain that the end of my papacy has inflicted on you and many others." and "an anger that no longer merely concerns my resignation"

Attaboy. Jimmy! Proti…More
Your own source contradicts you. :D First sentence. Five years ago, Pope Benedict XVI (91) resigned.. Followed by "written by the retired Pope" Followed by a direct quote from Benedict himself "I can very well understand the deep-seated pain that the end of my papacy has inflicted on you and many others." and "an anger that no longer merely concerns my resignation"

Attaboy. Jimmy! Protip: Next time do a better job with the photo-shopping. You accidentally whited over his signature. Gotcha!
pic related.
Zech4:6
@Ultraviolet, Benedict XVI wrote in the letters that he gave his Apostolic Blessing. So the picture in the article shows that blessing. If he's not pope, he can't give the blessing.

The picture I attached shows the Secretary of State calling Benedict XVI "His Holiness".

So, if B16 resigned he wouldn't be "his holiness" and he wouldn't be giving out the papal blessing.

All you did is prove your…More
@Ultraviolet, Benedict XVI wrote in the letters that he gave his Apostolic Blessing. So the picture in the article shows that blessing. If he's not pope, he can't give the blessing.

The picture I attached shows the Secretary of State calling Benedict XVI "His Holiness".

So, if B16 resigned he wouldn't be "his holiness" and he wouldn't be giving out the papal blessing.

All you did is prove your inability to read.
Ultraviolet
"It's so obvious you support a sodomite communist..."

Actually, it's so obvious you just got caught fakin' a photo to support your claim. :D

"From your excusing everything he says as a "mistake"...

Another lie. I criticize them as errors. That's a canonical term. This kind of rhetoric is where you excel. They're lies, more lies, and then presented as if they're a given. I hereby dub them...…More
"It's so obvious you support a sodomite communist..."

Actually, it's so obvious you just got caught fakin' a photo to support your claim. :D

"From your excusing everything he says as a "mistake"...

Another lie. I criticize them as errors. That's a canonical term. This kind of rhetoric is where you excel. They're lies, more lies, and then presented as if they're a given. I hereby dub them... "Jimmies". And you sprinkle your "Jimmies" all over your posts.
Zech4:6
@Ultraviolet it's not a fake photo. I wouldn't know how. And sorry, the pope is not in error, since he promotes those beliefs. He is a heretic. And apparently so are you.
Ultraviolet
"Benedict XVI wrote in the letters that he gave his Apostolic Blessing."

...that moment when you realize the word "blessing" doesn't appear in the article at all.

More artificial Jimmies!

"So the picture in the article shows that blessing."

Actually, the photo shows a very tightly scrawled signature. A signature is not a blessing.

And you can't read German. Again, you're just adding …More
"Benedict XVI wrote in the letters that he gave his Apostolic Blessing."

...that moment when you realize the word "blessing" doesn't appear in the article at all.

More artificial Jimmies!

"So the picture in the article shows that blessing."

Actually, the photo shows a very tightly scrawled signature. A signature is not a blessing.

And you can't read German. Again, you're just adding more "Jimmies". The article directly contradicts you.

"If he's not pope, he can't give the blessing."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_blessing

From wiki.

Within his own diocese, a bishop may impart the Apostolic Blessing three times a year on solemn feasts. The same holds, within their territories, for non-bishop prelates (such as an apostolic prefect) recognized by canon law as juridically equivalent to diocesan bishops. In exceptional circumstances, they can impart it also on other occasions.


So, again, yer wrong, Jimbo. :D

"The picture I attached shows the Secretary of State calling Benedict XVI "His Holiness".

The Secretary of State is not Benedict. The Secretary of State can call Benedict whatever he pleases, just like you do. Benedict didn't even sign the letter. That (photoshopped) promotional photo isn't dated. either. It could have been signed years ago.

You should have thought of that before goofing around with MS-Paint. :P

"So, if B16 resigned he wouldn't be "his holiness" and he wouldn't be giving out the papal blessing."

Benedict didn't sign the photo "His Holiness".

"All you did is prove your inability to read."

See my last point. Gotta love the irony. :D
Ultraviolet
"it's not a fake photo." @JamesMichaelYerian

More of Jimmy's Big Mouth, boldly claimed and unsupported.

Protip: I only just pointed out where the signature got "fudged" in the photo. .

"I wouldn't know how."

Sure, Jimmy. You're one of the few people stupid enough to claim incompetence as a defense for an incompetently photo-shopped photo. ;-)

"And sorry, the pope is not in error, since …More
"it's not a fake photo." @JamesMichaelYerian

More of Jimmy's Big Mouth, boldly claimed and unsupported.

Protip: I only just pointed out where the signature got "fudged" in the photo. .

"I wouldn't know how."

Sure, Jimmy. You're one of the few people stupid enough to claim incompetence as a defense for an incompetently photo-shopped photo. ;-)

"And sorry, the pope is not in error, since he promotes those beliefs. He is a heretic."

According to Canon Law? No. These are more "Jimmies". Artificially Flavored and scattered all over your posts.

Time to sweep 'em up with some Copy Pasta.

Heresy and error are two different things. A Pope may err, everything a Pope states is not automatically infallible. Heresy, as the Church defines it in Canon Law 751, is "an obstinate denial or obstinate doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith; "

Obstinacy shows a deliberate course of action, i.e. "stubbornly adhering to an opinion, purpose, or course in spite of reason, arguments, or persuasion."

In this context, the term shows that
a.) the accused heretic has expressed a view
b.) The Church has disgreed with that view as contrary to its teachings.
c.) The Church has attempted to correct the accused heretic
d.) the accused heretic has opposed that correction by the Church.

Regarding Pope Francis,
a.) has happened.
b.)-d.) have not.

You aren't qualified to represent The Church in doing b.-d., not in law or in fact. Neither is some blogger.

Your opinion that the Pope doubts or denies a truth taught by the Church to be divine is not an objective fact. Likewise, your opinion that his supposed doubt or denial is maintained in an obstinate manner is also an opinion. You haven't shown The Church has attempted to correct it and failed. So your claim has no support.

A more relevant question in light of a charge of heresy is this: who has the temporal authority to represent the Church when attempting to correct the supposed errors of the Church's highest temporal authority?
Zech4:6
So we've established you don't pray to God, and we have Bergolio's own words proving he's a heretic. You actually seem to be making the case that Bergolio is the incomparable. He's just so full of errors.

You believe in Bergolio more than Christ. You believe Bergolio is a faithful Christian until the Church says he isnt. Despite 7 years of his own words and actions, you profess ignorance about …More
So we've established you don't pray to God, and we have Bergolio's own words proving he's a heretic. You actually seem to be making the case that Bergolio is the incomparable. He's just so full of errors.

You believe in Bergolio more than Christ. You believe Bergolio is a faithful Christian until the Church says he isnt. Despite 7 years of his own words and actions, you profess ignorance about Bergolio.

You keep projecting. You're a demon, @Ultraviolet . Your entire existence revloves around hatred. All you have to do is gander at your history here.

I quit trying to persuade you. You can't persuade the faith based hater.

You're on you own. Good luck, Granite State Satan.
Ultraviolet
"So we've established... "and we have Bergolio's own words proving..."

How nice. It's been awhile since you dug up your old stand-by of using the past tense to introduce something you didn't do. Bad rhetoric, desperately delivered. It's the classic "fake summary".

"You actually seem to be making the case that Bergolio is the incomparable."

No. It may "seem" that way to you, but that's …More
"So we've established... "and we have Bergolio's own words proving..."

How nice. It's been awhile since you dug up your old stand-by of using the past tense to introduce something you didn't do. Bad rhetoric, desperately delivered. It's the classic "fake summary".

"You actually seem to be making the case that Bergolio is the incomparable."

No. It may "seem" that way to you, but that's only because you are an idiot. And a liar. And using "seem" to make an implied straw-man fallacy.

"You believe in Bergolio..."
"You believe Bergolio...."


...and how many times have I told you otherwise?. ;-) ...and here we are again... :P

Looks like the Jimmy The Psychic Robot is stuck on replay, doesn't it? "You believe..." *click* "You believe..." *click*

Pic related.
Ultraviolet
"You keep projecting" Pic related, Dr. Jimmy. :D
Caroline03
.......he's clearly bonkers! He's not even PRETENDING to be a Catholic any longer!. How do the good Catholics of the Diocese of Rome feel about this situation? He's their Bishop! If they were to request a new Bishop to lead their Diocese wouldn't he have to go away? He is so obviously of unsound mind and unfit to take care of the Diocese.

To be quite honest, he's a loose canon creating havoc in …More
.......he's clearly bonkers! He's not even PRETENDING to be a Catholic any longer!. How do the good Catholics of the Diocese of Rome feel about this situation? He's their Bishop! If they were to request a new Bishop to lead their Diocese wouldn't he have to go away? He is so obviously of unsound mind and unfit to take care of the Diocese.

To be quite honest, he's a loose canon creating havoc in the Church. There is a very real danger that many lapse souls appreciate his support of their promiscuous lifestyles, and it is THOSE types of people who are only to eager to speak of him as being "The Pope." Thereby believing erroneously that Christ is adapting his teachings to approve of those sins that they won't repent of because they believe a lie.

He is not likely to be a valid Pope since he is not protected from preaching/teaching/writing error. He is obviously not a Catholic and cannot SPEAK without making it obvious that he is OUTSIDE the Church - yet, he is being allowed to lead, simply because nobody speaks up or tries to halt his mission to rob Christ of countless souls & to remake the Church in his own image.

Frankly, it's about time GOOD Bishops realized that suffering him in silence is the last thing they should be doing. Every soul is important to Our Lord. He seeks faithful Shepherds intent on fulfilling their Ministry by preserving the innocence of Children, and assisting adults to gain Salvation. Much more of the wild proselytizing of this mentally ill, anti- Pope and thousands MORE may be damned. All Bishops and Priests need to think of THIS! God will not be mocked! Save SOULS! One day you will stand face to face with Our Lord. It's best not to have the sin of negligence or carelessness on your souls when that time comes.
Zech4:6
Don't sully the name of the great Saint Francis by giving Bergolio the same name. Bergolio chose it on purpose to scandalzs the legacy of Francis, who prophesied the Argetninian's fraudulent rise.
Ultraviolet
"Bergolio chose it on purpose to scandalzs..." pic related.
Zech4:6
@Ultraviolet not a mind reader. I pray in Jesus' Holy Name and God reveals things through His Spirit. Zechariah 4:6 .

The prophecy of St. Francis, see if this seems familiar:
"The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with …More
@Ultraviolet not a mind reader. I pray in Jesus' Holy Name and God reveals things through His Spirit. Zechariah 4:6 .

The prophecy of St. Francis, see if this seems familiar:
"The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death. "

That last part pertains to you.

catholictradition.org/francis-prophecies.htm
Ultraviolet
Actually, it pertains to your repetition of falsehoods. I quote Benedict on his resignation. You quote YOURSELF describing Francis' motivations.

"God reveals things through His Spirit." Zechariah 4:6 You Lutherans love using that to justify all your falsehoods. "God revealed it to me..." Sure, Marty. Go back to whatever hillbilly heretical Lutheran circus you came from.
Zech4:6
@Ultraviolet So the Catholic Church believes in prayer and communication with God. That's firmly established, or else Pentecost and 2000 years of dogma have been a lie.

Your Pope Bergolio honored Martin Luther in 2016-2017 and even had a statue of Luther put in the Vatican . So we have projection.

You're a wailing demon. But at least you admitted you don't communicate with God. I mean I knew …More
@Ultraviolet So the Catholic Church believes in prayer and communication with God. That's firmly established, or else Pentecost and 2000 years of dogma have been a lie.

Your Pope Bergolio honored Martin Luther in 2016-2017 and even had a statue of Luther put in the Vatican . So we have projection.

You're a wailing demon. But at least you admitted you don't communicate with God. I mean I knew this, but maybe you didn't no know it about yourself.
Ultraviolet
"So the Catholic Church believes in prayer and communication with God."

Communion with God is not direct revelation by God. Sloppy theology. Lousy catechesis. Sure is Novus Ordo in here.

...and you're not quoting the Catechism. You're sprinkling your artificial "Jimmies" again. ;-)

"That's firmly established, or else Pentecost and 2000 years of dogma have been a lie."

You weren't at the …More
"So the Catholic Church believes in prayer and communication with God."

Communion with God is not direct revelation by God. Sloppy theology. Lousy catechesis. Sure is Novus Ordo in here.

...and you're not quoting the Catechism. You're sprinkling your artificial "Jimmies" again. ;-)

"That's firmly established, or else Pentecost and 2000 years of dogma have been a lie."

You weren't at the Pentecost. Jesus walked on water and raised the dead. That's dogma too. You can't. ;-)

"Your Pope Bergolio honored Martin Luther in 2016-2017"

Not my pope, THE pope. More litle filthy Jimmies. :D

Shades of you... and Benedict..

"Your ex-Pope Benedict honored Martin Luther in 2011"

traditioninaction.org/…olutionPhotos/A438-Erfurt.html

"So we have projection."

Pic related, Dr. Jimmy. :D
Ultraviolet
"You're a wailing demon."

Pic related.
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Ultraviolet
"But at least you admitted you don't communicate with God. "
I admitted no such thing. Jimmies, jimmies everwhere. :D Old rhetorical ploy, one of your faves.

Pic related. Except you're not misrepesenting what I said, your fabricating it ouright. --which is why you won't quote me any more than you'll quote Benedict on his resignation. :D