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The Fall of Father Dr. Wolfgang Rothe

... And he fell, and his fall was great (Mt 7,27)

Fr. Dr. Wolfgang Rothe alias “Whiskey-Vikar”
Who is the German priest Dr. Wolfgang Rothe? He is quite widely known (not only in Germany) mainly because of his activity among homosexuals and other sexual minorities. Since 2010, he has openly declared himself homosexual (see [C]). He often talks to journalists and gives interviews. It can be said that he promotes his sexual orientation. For example, in November 2021, a BBC journalist interviewed him in a “homosexual sauna” [F]. Do you know what a "homosexual, gay sauna" is? "A gay bathhouse, also known as a gay sauna or gay steam room, is a place ... where gays, bisexuals and other men can have sex with men" [G]. Wolfgang Rothe himself recalls this meeting: "Today I blessed a homosexual couple on the terrace of the hotel-sauna ... 'Deutsche Eiche'" - one of the most popular meeting places for homosexuals in Munich (although places as high as the "roof terrace" can be dangerous to him - as we shall see in a moment. In my opinion, he should rather avoid them...) He is also called "Whiskey-Vikar": "he is considered an expert on Scotch whiskey and is known for combining this knowledge with lectures and publications on spiritual topics" [C]. From 2002, he was secretary to Kurt Krenn, Bishop of St. Pölten in Austria near Vienna (he was ordained by the bishop). He was also the deputy rector of the local seminary, which became famous because of a huge sexual scandal. The American painter Terry Nelson from Minneapolis (USA) made a painting entitled "Seminary Visitation" illustrating this affair (I really liked his idea to document these kinds of events and scandals in such artistic way).

Let us now consider a very strange incident that happened to Fr. dr. Wolfgang Rothe.
According to [H](Jan 21, 2005), (“Whiskey-Vikar”): “that night he fell from the balcony of his apartment on the second floor after drinking a large amount of alcohol. He had a concussion and a broken arm and now he says that he doesn't remember anything from that night ...".
What does "Whiskey-Vikar" himself say about this? What is his story? Recently, (some months ago, Oct. 15, 2022) German national world-wide broadcaster "Deutsche Welle" published a reportage “The Whisky vicar” in which Wolfgang Rothe presented his version of the events. He does not deny the fact of his falling from the balcony, although he explains it differently. First, he claims to have been the victim of an attempted rape! As he explains in more detail in his interview with "Deutsche Welle" his fall is the result of a medicine that his superior-bishop gave him ... And a glass of wine ... Just one ... And then the bishop made him sit on the couch - and tried to rape him!!! “I didn't know what the bishop had given me. It was a psychotropic drug and combining it with alcohol is obviously a very bad idea. From then on, I lost the thread, I lost track... I don't remember anything from that evening. At some point later that night, I jumped or fell off the balcony of my apartment. I don't know, I don't remember anything" (see [L] 4.18 – 5.21 min)
Before seeing more clearly in this case, let me say this (we will get back to Wolfgang Rothe story later): he is a public person and apparently he is looking for publicity ("Deutsche Welle" published at least three interviews with him). He wants to be famous, no doubt about it! So why not help him with that ?
Thus, before we get to the bottom of his story let's first try to visualize the "Whiskey-Vikar" fall from the balcony (let’s follow the idea of Terry Nelson!). But how to do it ? I am not a painter myself, so I will use a computer and some Artificial Intelligence programs freely available on the Internet that create paintings based on a textual description (see [S], [R]). And here's what I’ve got:

I like the ones here better (here you can better see that only one step separates him from danger, from falling):

Here is the next batch of pictures (they are not so idyllic anymore and there is more than one person in them):

And this:

And finally this:

Now we need to get to know more about Fr. Dr. Wolfgang Rothe… And especially with the role he played in the scandal of the seminary in St. Pölten.

St. Pölten seminary
One would expect that the atmosphere in such an institution would be more conducive to spiritual development and learning (even if not entirely ascetic). But it wasn't. According to [I] p. 145: “The story really begins on November 10, 2003, when technical experts working on a publicly available computer at the St. Pölten discovered pictures and pornographic films on it and reported it to the seminar director Ulrich Küchl. On November 27, twenty-nine seminary students asked Küchl to investigate the matter". So between November 10th and November 27th nothing happened there (very interesting)! Finally, after more than two weeks, the students submitted a petition to the rector: apparently they were afraid that the problem of "pornographic materials" would be "swept under the carpet", i.e. ignored! (later someone will anonymously send compromising pictures to the newspapers, to the bishop, etc. with the following words attached: "please act for the good of the Church. Those who suffer scandal say to you 'Thank you'"). And this petition seems to have achieved its goal: "The next day, Küchl... informed the State Prosecutor". Thus began the worldwide church sex scandal in Austria… The police and church investigation was launched after students "decided to put an end to years of silence about the activities that took place in the seminary." More than 40,000 (yes, forty thousand) porn images and videos were found in the computers of the seminary: child pornography (it’s a crime in Austria), acts of pedophilia and bestiality (for ex. a rape of a 5-year-old boy, sex with animals...) and so on and so on... Other photos of the rector and his deputy caressing and kissing student seminary priests were also published (some of them are circulating on the Internet to this day). "One of these photos caused much later speculation mainly in the US about the nature of the kiss : it was asked whether it was in fact what Americans would call 'French Kiss'". The Austrian weekly "Profil" (profil.au) reported that "both the rector and his deputy had homosexual relations with students, using pedophile pictures for stimulation", "Stories came to light about Küchl and Rothe's alleged involvement in orgies with their seminarians“ , “several other photos were circulated and published by the media” , (for ex. Rector Küchl touching a cleric’s fly!). Kurt Krenn (the bishop of St. Pölten) asserted that "the photo of Rothe kissing a young seminarian had absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality and was just a kind of ‘boyish stupidity’", that "photos of kissing and caressing priests is simply ‘Bubendummiheiten (childish, youthful pranks)’". And he openly questioned their authenticity : hadn't they been processed by computer technology? (if you want to form your own opinion about this passionate kiss, you can still see it here: [F]. I “asked Artificial Intelligence” how “she” imagined such a kiss and I got this:

And on the basis of the (very blurry) photo from [F] of that "famous kiss" that:

A former seminarian also accused Rector Ulrich Küchl of homosexual behavior... This is how this huge scandal broke out… One of the most important scandals in the Catholic Church in modern times…

It is also worth noting the interesting nickname of Fr. Ulrich Küchl, rector of the seminar: "Frau Propstin"(see [I]). Herr Rektor Küchl was called by his young favorites "Frau Propstin i.e. Madam or Lady Rector" ! "Frau Propstin in der Sakristei / Lady Rector in the sacristy" - the seminarians used to say ... So "Whiskey-Vikar" was a substitute for "Frau Propstin / Lady Rector" - it's even funny...
The daily practice in a peculiar atmosphere of the seminary was indeed very special: "Homosexual passion and jealousy ruled the day, embedded in complex interpersonal dynamics between favorites and outsiders", "fun drunken nights" (some students would flee to the attic to sleep peacefully), "perverse male couple blessing ceremonies" ... There were scenes of jealousy, intrigue, betrayal, psychoterror … The Rector Ulrich Küchl "supposedly took his favorites with him to his residence in Eisgarn on weekends". Occasionally there was a permutation of favorites between homosexual couples... And: "Those who were supposed to oppose these practices were harassed and intimidated"! "Neither Ulrich Küchl nor Wolfgang Rothe were ready to admit that they were practicing homosexuals" [I]. They pleaded that they were not involved, explained their ignorance... And finally resigned - but without admitting any guilt! How could the seminary management not know what was going on with such a small group of students living together in one place? In such institutions, seminarians are usually under close observation. All student-priests have to go to confession and everyone has his spiritual director... These two, "Frau Propstin" and his (her?) deputy "Whiskey-Vikar" apparently think we're all idiots (and insult my intelligence!). And yet he managed to convince many of his ignorance (for ex. Wikipedia stated: "Neither state nor ecclesiastical investigation has revealed Dr. Rothe's misconduct that should be punished"[C]. And about Ulrich Küchl: "He has always denied the allegations against him and still does" [K]). Wolfgang Rothe delayed revealing his homosexuality until 2010. Only then he publicly did his 'come out' - six years later! If this had been known already in 2004, who would have believed in his innocence then? If Wolfgang Rothe had already blessed gay couples back then, if he had already visited gay saunas back then, as he does today, who would have believed his ignorance? Bishop Kurt Krenn, who initially ruled out resigning, finally realized that he had no other choice. The Vatican announced on October 7, 2004 that his resignation had been accepted for "serious misconduct" (see [J]) ("theologian Paul Zulehner explained in an interview with Die Welt that Kurt Krenn was addicted to alcohol and therefore could no longer perform his duties properly ... Krenn had previously undergone alcohol addiction treatment in a Munich clinic" - see [D]. P. Zulehner - he teaches at the University of Vienna - also said: “His health is very bad. I doubt that he will ever be able to accept his responsibility as a bishop for what he has contributed to” see [D],[E]. Does the fact of alcoholism of the bishop have anything to do with the pseudonym of his secretary? With his penchant for whisky?)
Klaus Küng, the new Bishop of St Pölten, tried unsuccessfully to persuade Wolfgang Rothe to voluntarily resign from the priesthood (you can make a guess based on the photos [F] that W. Rothe missed his vocation, he could have made a career in Hollywood in the roles of a lover-seducer).
"The saddest thing about St Pölten Seminary, Bishop Küng said, was that the homosexual atmosphere discouraged heterosexual candidates". “Deutsche Welle” had already written about Wolfgang Rothe on the occasion of the “St Pölten seminar scandal” who made the news the world over (see [P]). It's their old friend...

Did Ewald S. have to die? Was it murder? And who is behind it???
In fact, the scandal began ten days before the porn photos were discovered - with a mysterious death: "On October 31, 2003, a fifty-three year old seminarian from St. Pölten, Ewald S., was found dead in Alten Donau (a branch of the Danube near Vienna). The police gave the official cause of death as drowning, but did not completely rule out a crime" [I] (p.146). There were rumors that it was a murder! Before he was somehow led to his death ("...Ewald S... was led to his death..." [I] p.153 ), Ewald S. confided to someone that there were three "bad people” in the seminary...

The balance of this scandal is rather extraordinary :
- the collapse of an old, more than two-century-old institution (the seminary was closed) ;
- public scandal on an international, even planetary scale;
- the lives and vocations of students turned upside down;
- a seminarian tried and convicted;
- a suicide attempt;
- a mysterious death...
Pretty impressive, isn't it? And, no one feels guilty about it...

As I said before, Terry Nelson, from the USA, painted a picture influenced by this scandal. As he explains in his blog: « I did a retablo/ex-voto style painting called Seminary Visitation based upon the Wolfgang Rothe seminary scandal. It's a weird painting, no doubt - but it is part of my series on documenting the sexual scandal and cover-up. ». Here is that painting :

It depicts a procession entering, three or four half-naked figures of startled young men, escaping pigs, some kind of strange winged ghost (?) (or angel? devil?)... So it's actually quite a complete and adequate commentary on the situation in St. Polten!

"Whiskey-Vikar" jump?/fall? from the balcony (revisited)
Knowing what happened in the St. Polten seminary we can now more easily form an opinion about the fall of Fr. Dr. W. Rothe. According to him - yes, the fall from the balcony did indeed take place. But someone else is responsible for it, someone else is to blame! Let me put it this way: did the person who was co-responsible for the scandal described above in St. Pölten, deserves his accusations to be taken seriously? Didn't he say the same thing in St. Polten? Isn't he lying, like in the seminary, when he denied any responsibility for what happened there? But why should it be any different this time? Who can guess what's going on in the poor head of the Whiskey Vicar? Or - in his heart? Isn't it amazing? Doesn't he just take his sexual fantasies, obsessions, or dreams for reality?

And why did "Deutsche Welle" such an important world publisher (it is worth noting that the planning of "Deutsche Welle" activities is determined by the Bundestag, i.e. the German parliament) consider it appropriate to participate so actively in what many will consider calumny? Because yes, "Deutsche Welle" has strongly decided to support Wolfgang Rothe's accusations and to give him and his accusations so wide publicity! They practically created a tandem with him! [(They've published at least three interviews with him - they're old associates).]

But the similar has also happened before and in another case.… In 2021, after W. Rothe's complaint, the German court decided that the article "On the need to curb homosexual cliques in the Church" published by the Polish philosopher prof. Dariusz Oko in the scientific journal "Theologisches" constituted "incitement to hatred" against homosexuals (the journal "Theologisches" / theologisches.net is a scientific theological journal). In the article, the author describes the homosexual lobby operating in the Roman Catholic Church, draws attention to cases of abuse by homosexual clergy and describes in detail the mechanisms used by the clergy to avoid responsibility. Fr. D. Oko describes such clergy as a "colony of parasites" and as a "homosexual plague" or "a cancer that is even ready to kill its host." "I collect known facts about homosexuals in cassocks and their customs ... The 'Lavender mafia' has a similar role as the mafia in Sicily" said Fr. D. Oko. The court initially sentenced him on a fine of €4,800 or 120 days in prison. The (92-year-old!) German priest and editor-in-chief of the magazine, Johannes Stöhr, was also punished. And on the eve of the trial, "Deutsche Welle" saw fit to publish an interview with W. Rothe and give him the opportunity to present his accusations and allegations (see, for example: [A], [N])! (Was it psychological preparation for Father D. Oko and Father J. Stöhr for the next day's trial?)
How could this have happened? Did Wolfgang Rothe have powerful, important friends? (how good it is to have such influential buddies - it's a pity that in such a morally dubious case!)
And who is behind it?¹ And does not this scandal threaten to undermine the prestige of such an important institution as the German parliament?

I would also say this: how lucky was Cardinal George Pell from Australia (similarly accused - wrongly, as it turned out in the end) that he did not meet Wolfgang Rothe in his life! He probably wouldn't get out of prison easily...

P.S. Let's make a movie!
The idea of Terry Nelson to document such events with the help of images & art and the possibilities of Artificial Intelligence are indeed potentially very interesting and significant. I suggest to go a step further in this direction: let's write a film script together - more or less - based on the events described here (and in [N])! The working title of the film could be, for example, "Counterattack of the Brotherhood of the Nine Commandments." I invite everyone to cooperate with ideas, suggestions (talk about it around you!)... Those interested will find the first few ideas in [N]...
Who is behind it? It's not hard to guess… Just as it is easy to guess the final result (in the long run) of promoting this kind of person: namely, something like the spiritual equivalent of the defeat at Stalingrad... Or the spiritual equivalent of the "German Wings" desaster...

[A] Proces polskiego księdza. „Tyle nienawiści” – DW – 19.05.2022 Permalink: //p.dw.com/p/4BSwq
[B] Proces księdza D.Oko i J. Stoehr-a
[C] Wolfgang F. Rothe – Wikipedia
[D] Kurt Krenn – Wikipedia , Kurt Krenn - Wikipedia
[E] "Bischof Krenn hat seine Amtszeit faktisch selbst beendet" - WELT
[F] « German priest performs gay pseudo-blessing in Munich’s gay sauna... »
German Priest Performs Gay Pseudo-Blessing In Gay Sauna
[G] Gay bathhouse - Wikipedia
[H] « The Defenestration of Poelten » (Jan 21, 2005)
The Defenestration of Poelten
[I] Pieter Judson, A Scandal in the Seminary, in : Contemporary Austrian Studies Vol 15 « Sexuality in Austria » Ed. by Gunter Bischof Anton Pelinka and Dagmar Herzog 2017 Routledge Taylor & Francis Group London and New York First publ. 2009 by Transation Publishers Published 2017 Routledge, p.145 – 157
Sexuality in Austria
[J] Mgr Klaus Küng, ancien visiteur apostolique du diocèse lui succède – Portail catholique suisse
[K] Ulrich Küchl – Wikipedia
[L] The whisky vicar – DW – 10/15/2022
4.18 (-8:18) – 5.21(-7:15)
[M] Catholic Teaching 'Inciting hatred'?
[N] ebrazylia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18939
The case of Fr. D. Oko and Fr. J. Stöhr
[P] Sex and Porn Scandal Hits Austrian Catholic Seminary – DW – 07/13/2004
[R] Upadek Księdza dr Wolfgang Rothe
[S] 10 Best Free-to-Use Text-to-Image Generators
Ed Ward
New version of the film script (v2.1), see also :
Counterattack of the Brotherhood of the 9 Commandments v2.1, Madryt, Madrid, Hiszpania, eHiszpania.com (English & Polish)
Ed Ward
Script for a film titled "Counterattack of the Brotherhood of the Nine Commandments" based partly on the events described here (v2.1). The beginning of the scenario, i.e. the following parts “Introduction", "General assumptions”, “Logline” up to “Synopsis” as in v2.0b, see e.g. here: "Counterattack of the Brotherhood of 9 Commandments" (v2.0b), Anglia, Londyn, Wielka Brytania, opinie, porady …More
Script for a film titled "Counterattack of the Brotherhood of the Nine Commandments" based partly on the events described here (v2.1). The beginning of the scenario, i.e. the following parts “Introduction", "General assumptions”, “Logline” up to “Synopsis” as in v2.0b, see e.g. here: "Counterattack of the Brotherhood of 9 Commandments" (v2.0b), Anglia, Londyn, Wielka Brytania, opinie, porady, dyskusje - GBritain.net

One of the main scenes takes place in a gay sauna. The mafia boss ("capo"), his "Consiliere", the Chaplain and several other gangsters are present (they are partially undressed, leftovers of luxury food, fancy drinks may indicate that some debauchery is coming to an end. They're talking about the movie “The Godfather”. They were deeply impressed by the scene in which a famous film director, who refuses to do a favor for a mafia boss, wakes up terrified in bed with the severed head of his favorite steed. They ask themselves, 'How would we do it in their place? How would we make him such an "offer he couldn't refuse"? ». Their chaplain complains that he has a problem with a certain traditional priest (i.e. a priest of some traditional "Ten Commandments" Christian church) who continues to criticize him in every possible way, verbally and in writing. The boss (capo) agrees to help him. However how to do it?
Gangster1 : I'll break his bones. This will convince him to give up...
Gangster2: Better kidnap someone from his family...
Boss: Shut up, you two!
Someone says: you have to make him “an offer he can’t refuse”! He must be presented with such an offer !
Everyone likes this proposition. Yes, that's a good idea! However how to realize it?
Boss to Consigliere: Think about it...
Consigliere: Do we have a contact with the police where he lives? We need to find someone close to him. We also need to check his background and personal life. Reaching out to his home staff, including a cook, a cleaning lady, a janitor... He himself certainly has some important friends (police, the courts, lawyers) - this must also be taken into account... Do we have any contact with any of the "families" ruling this area?
Consigliere to the Chaplain: first you have to sue him.
Chaplain: However, under what pretext?
Consigliere: You will accuse him of "hate speech"! After all, he hates the followers of our new faith. He is primitive and backward. Either way, we'll have him convicted and discredited. After all, we have among our friends and journalists specialists in discrediting and "kompromats"... We will create a defense and support committee composed of well known figures linked to the Church, moral authorities. Your cause is very important and even interesting: you represent modernity, progress, the future! And your adversary, the old, backward and ruined world... (do I remember correctly that he comes from an obscurantist and backward country in Central and Eastern Europe? Or maybe he is Polish ? Is this your old friend from the seminary - you studied together? ) This is important, even from today's political point of view. point of view! Your example should be spread among teenagers and students! And if necessary, we will also launch some political mechanisms through friendly parliamentarians... They will be interested in you as a new model of a modern approach to religion. So they will organize meetings with young people from schools, interviews in newspapers, on TV... And once the ground is ready, we will deliver a sudden, destabilizing blow! It will be like a bolt from the blue! And then we'll be able to make him an "offer he can't refuse." Let him know that he is not safe, that he is in our hands! However, it may not be easy or cheap…
Capo (Boss): You're right. Indeed, we must make him an "offer" that he cannot refuse. Take care of this personally, consigliere...

Another case : two mafiosi ask the chaplain for a special blessing to properly carry out the responsible and difficult task entrusted to them by the "capo". Their promotion to an elite team tasked with special missions depends on its completion. But the suspicious chaplain wants to know more. This does not satisfy him. He asks for details.... Well, we end up telling him that the task is to kidnap someone important, torture him and finally kill his entire family… The chaplain doesn't want to do that... Which begins to annoy two gangsters (who know him well). After all, you do not pose such problems, you have no resistance when it comes to the sixth commandment. When it comes to sex! You marry gay couples! And the fifth, seventh or sixth commandment: what difference does it make? So why are you having difficulties, why are you bothering???

Another important scene takes place near the Eiffel Tower at night.
The "Chaplain" suddenly wakes up from a heavy (erotic?) sleep (he drank some whiskey and took drugs before going to sleep). It seems to him that someone is attacking him! Is it a dream or a reality ? Is this a continuation of the nightmare? Is the danger real or just imaginary? Not much known.
Stunned, he jumps up and runs out of his hotel... He blindly runs ahead, runs into a fence, crosses it, the huge structure of the Eiffel Tower looms before him, he starts to climb... Suddenly he staggers and falls from a considerable height…

ENG-v2.1 (2024/02/6)
Xaw Ma
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Anonymous Catholic
Interesting, but disturbing story