Archbishop Viganò: towards anarcho-vacantism (sedevacantism)
Archbishop Viganò’s version of Sedevacantism. Archbishop Viganò: towards anarcho-vacantism? - Voice of the Family … “ In summary: Archbishop Viganò admits that Francis materially occupies the throne …More
Archbishop Viganò’s version of Sedevacantism.
Archbishop Viganò: towards anarcho-vacantism? - Voice of the Family
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“ In summary: Archbishop Viganò admits that Francis materially occupies the throne of Peter and, for this reason, denies being a sedevacantist, but at the same time he is convinced that he is not formally the pope, because he is devoid of that intention of bringing about the good of the Church which constitutes the form — the essence — of the papacy.
This thesis is neither new nor original, because it was elaborated under the name of the Cassiciacum Thesis, with reference to Paul VI (1897–1978) and his successors, by Fr Guérard des Lauriers (1898–1988), a Dominican theologian who, in 1969, participated in the drafting of the Brief Critical Study of the Novus Ordo Missae, signed by Cardinals Bacci and Ottaviani. His position was set forth in the first issue (May 1979) and in subsequent issues of Cahiers de Cassiciacum, published by the Association Saint Herménégilde in …More
Archbishop Viganò: towards anarcho-vacantism? - Voice of the Family
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“ In summary: Archbishop Viganò admits that Francis materially occupies the throne of Peter and, for this reason, denies being a sedevacantist, but at the same time he is convinced that he is not formally the pope, because he is devoid of that intention of bringing about the good of the Church which constitutes the form — the essence — of the papacy.
This thesis is neither new nor original, because it was elaborated under the name of the Cassiciacum Thesis, with reference to Paul VI (1897–1978) and his successors, by Fr Guérard des Lauriers (1898–1988), a Dominican theologian who, in 1969, participated in the drafting of the Brief Critical Study of the Novus Ordo Missae, signed by Cardinals Bacci and Ottaviani. His position was set forth in the first issue (May 1979) and in subsequent issues of Cahiers de Cassiciacum, published by the Association Saint Herménégilde in …More
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Maria delos Angeles
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Just look at the bishop of my diocese, raised Cardinal by Bergoglio. Is this is a good fruit? He has been on the wrong side of about every issue I can think of since the beginning of his career. Despite a lot of prayers sent his way on my part I cannot tell you with any certainty he has my foremost interests in the foremost of his mind.. If my prayers have had any avail on him, it will be to neutralise …More
Just look at the bishop of my diocese, raised Cardinal by Bergoglio. Is this is a good fruit? He has been on the wrong side of about every issue I can think of since the beginning of his career. Despite a lot of prayers sent his way on my part I cannot tell you with any certainty he has my foremost interests in the foremost of his mind.. If my prayers have had any avail on him, it will be to neutralise or take the sting out of the evil of his proclivities i suspect
Sedevacantism is a word coined to describe the belief that Pope John XXIII (1958-1963) and the others after him (Paul VI, John Paul I, etc.) are not a genuine Successors of the Apostle Peter.
If one acknowledges all Popes from John XXIII to Benedict XVI, then he is not a Sedevacantist.
Rejecting sedevacantism during the reign of those Roman Pontiffs does not prevent the Church of having an antipope …More
Sedevacantism is a word coined to describe the belief that Pope John XXIII (1958-1963) and the others after him (Paul VI, John Paul I, etc.) are not a genuine Successors of the Apostle Peter.
If one acknowledges all Popes from John XXIII to Benedict XVI, then he is not a Sedevacantist.
Rejecting sedevacantism during the reign of those Roman Pontiffs does not prevent the Church of having an antipope in the future.
It is possible to have a false pope; not canonically elected.
Pope John Paul II - Universi Dominici Gregis:
“76. Should the election take place in a way other than that prescribed in the present Constitution, or should the conditions laid down here not be observed, the election is for this very reason null and void, without any need for a declaration on the matter; consequently, it confers no right on the one elected.”
Just an example, not a theory: What happens if there are cheating in the voting process?
If one acknowledges all Popes from John XXIII to Benedict XVI, then he is not a Sedevacantist.
Rejecting sedevacantism during the reign of those Roman Pontiffs does not prevent the Church of having an antipope in the future.
It is possible to have a false pope; not canonically elected.
Pope John Paul II - Universi Dominici Gregis:
“76. Should the election take place in a way other than that prescribed in the present Constitution, or should the conditions laid down here not be observed, the election is for this very reason null and void, without any need for a declaration on the matter; consequently, it confers no right on the one elected.”
Just an example, not a theory: What happens if there are cheating in the voting process?
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
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I admire and support the great work of Archbishop Vigano, rather than judge hom, condemn him etc. as being outside the Church. Who, in their right mind, wound prefer the heretical and sodomistic debauched agenda of Pope Francis, Tucho Fernandez, Parolin,Cupich,McIlroy,Tobin,Zuppi,Tagle,and several dozen others, to the true Faith that Archbishop Vigano and his growing associates are building up...…More
I admire and support the great work of Archbishop Vigano, rather than judge hom, condemn him etc. as being outside the Church. Who, in their right mind, wound prefer the heretical and sodomistic debauched agenda of Pope Francis, Tucho Fernandez, Parolin,Cupich,McIlroy,Tobin,Zuppi,Tagle,and several dozen others, to the true Faith that Archbishop Vigano and his growing associates are building up...the traditional CAtholic Faith.
If I had to chose a sides, which is the Catholic Church, I would choose Vigano, the SSPX, and all the other traditionalist groups promoting the FAith and the TLM, rather than Pope Francis and his army of heretics.
If I had to chose a sides, which is the Catholic Church, I would choose Vigano, the SSPX, and all the other traditionalist groups promoting the FAith and the TLM, rather than Pope Francis and his army of heretics.
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BEWARE of Archbishop Vigano, he is promoting a form of Sedevacantism.
This thesis is condemned in most traditional circles, e.g. Little Catechism on Sedevacantism – PART 2 - Dominicans of Avrille, France
“This solution is not founded on Tradition. Theologians (Cajetan, St. Robert Bellarmine, John of St. Thomas, etc.) examined the possibility of a heretical pope, but no one, prior to the Council,…More
BEWARE of Archbishop Vigano, he is promoting a form of Sedevacantism.
This thesis is condemned in most traditional circles, e.g. Little Catechism on Sedevacantism – PART 2 - Dominicans of Avrille, France
“This solution is not founded on Tradition. Theologians (Cajetan, St. Robert Bellarmine, John of St. Thomas, etc.) examined the possibility of a heretical pope, but no one, prior to the Council, ever imagined this theory of “the absence of the usual intention to obtain the good of the Church” that would form an “obex” (obstacle) to receiving the “being-with-Christ,” the form of the papacy.”
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“It is a position that has not been proven speculatively, and it is imprudent to hold it practically (imprudence that can have very serious consequences – think, notably, of people who deprive themselves of the sacraments on the pretext that they cannot find a priest who has the same “opinion” as they do). That is why Archbishop Lefebvre never entered onto this path, and he even forbade the priests of his Society to profess sedevacantism. We should trust in his prudence and theological sense.”
This thesis is condemned in most traditional circles, e.g. Little Catechism on Sedevacantism – PART 2 - Dominicans of Avrille, France
“This solution is not founded on Tradition. Theologians (Cajetan, St. Robert Bellarmine, John of St. Thomas, etc.) examined the possibility of a heretical pope, but no one, prior to the Council, ever imagined this theory of “the absence of the usual intention to obtain the good of the Church” that would form an “obex” (obstacle) to receiving the “being-with-Christ,” the form of the papacy.”
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“It is a position that has not been proven speculatively, and it is imprudent to hold it practically (imprudence that can have very serious consequences – think, notably, of people who deprive themselves of the sacraments on the pretext that they cannot find a priest who has the same “opinion” as they do). That is why Archbishop Lefebvre never entered onto this path, and he even forbade the priests of his Society to profess sedevacantism. We should trust in his prudence and theological sense.”
Boanerges Boanerges
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Beware of Matt Stand he is attacking defenders of Catholic Church. No more Bergoglio trads
Maria delos Angeles
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I do not know that Lefebvre got everything right
Sean Johnson
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The OP is wrong. The proof is that the Avrille Dominicans strongly support Vigano.
Matt Stand
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@Sean Johnson did it not occur to you that the reason why I used your fake Dominicans as a reference is because they explicitly reject the “Cassiciacum Thesis” that Vigano is now espousing. 