Il cardinale Burke: 'molto discutibile' affermare che l'Islam adora lo stesso nostro Dio ed è una religione di pace. Nostra Aetate non è documento dogmatico
Condividiamo le recenti dichiarazioni del Cardinal Burke, su LifeSiteNews, che lo presenta come ex Prefetto della Segnatura Apostolica, il più alto Dicastero Vaticano ed orapatronus del Sovrano Ordine Militare di Malta. I passaggi sotto indicati, tratti dall'articolo, sono nella traduzione a cura di chiesaepostconcilio.blogspot.it
L'occasione delle dichiarazioni è stata la presentazione ai media di Speranza per il mondo: riunificare tutte le cose in Cristo, un libro-intervista recentemente pubblicato in collaborazione col giornalista francese Guillaume d'Alançon in cui il cardinale pondera su una miriade di argomenti controversi come la contraccezione e il suo rapporto con l'aborto, i bagni transgender, la Santa Comunione ai divorziati risposati, e i problemi all'interno della Chiesa cattolica. Ci conforta che anche in questa occasione il nostro Cardinale ci confermi. Ciò riguarda il fatto che egli mette chiaramente in discussione la validità dell'affermazione che Cattolici e Musulmani preghino lo stesso Dio e che l’Islam sia una religione di pace.
Infatti e in aggiunta, rispondendo alla precisa domanda sull'affermazione che cattolici e musulmani adorano lo stesso Dio e se i cattolici siano tenuti a credere alla definizione dell'Islam del Vaticano II, ci conferma anche col dire che la Dichiarazione “Nostra Aetate” sul rapporto con le altre religioni non è dogmatica. Essa afferma che “Cattolici e Islamici adorano l’unico Dio di Abramo; pur non riconoscendo Gesù come Dio, lo venerano come profeta, onorando anche sua madre Maria”. Inoltre “hanno in stima la vita morale, e rendono culto a Dio soprattutto con la preghiera l’elemosina e il digiuno”. Il documento invita quindi a superare i dissensi ed inimicizie del passato, e a cercare una mutua comprensione e una promozione comune di giustizia sociale, valori morali, pace e libertà. L'intervistatrice replica che se Nostra Aetate non è dogmatica può portare il gruppo tradizionalista della Fraternità San Pio X - attualmente in status canonico irregolare - alla piena comunione con Roma. Molti cattolici considerano il controverso documento del Vaticano II in quanto poco chiaro o addirittura in contrasto con l'insegnamento della Chiesa sul cattolicesimo come l'unica vera fede. Il fatto che i cattolici debbano abbracciare l'Islam come una religione di pace o essere considerati dissidenti è stato recentemente argomento di dibattito tra Robert Spencer di JihadWatch.org e monsignor Stuart Swetland del Donnelly College. Il primo sostiene che la posizione di Spencer che l'Islam è intrinsecamente violento è in contrasto con gli insegnamenti magisteriali degli ultimi papi. I sostenitori di Spencer sottolineano che i papi hanno avuto opinioni diverse sull'Islam nel corso degli anni e che affermare una certa natura dell'Islam non è legata alla fede e alla morale cattolica e, pertanto, non è vincolante per i cattolici. Si dice anche che i cattolici dovrebbero conoscere l'Islam stesso per determinarne la natura. Il card. Burke dichiara che gran parte dell'atteggiamento odierno nei confronti dell'Islam è di stampo relativista e non ritiene sia vero che "tutti adoriamo lo stesso Dio” e che “tutti crediamo nell'amore”. Se “Dio è amore”, come può essere “lo stesso Dio che comanda ai musulmani di macellare gli infedeli per stabilire il proprio dominio con la violenza?”, chiede Burke.
Egli afferma: “Non credo sia vero che tutti adoriamo lo stesso Dio”. “Dire che tutti crediamo nell'amore semplicemente non è corretto”.
“Tutto ciò che ho detto circa l'Islam, tra cui in particolare quello che c'è nel libro, si basa sui miei studi dei testi dell'Islam e anche di quelli dei loro commentatori”, ha detto il cardinale. Il relativismo religioso che mette sullo stesso piano l'insegnamento cattolico e musulmano sulla natura di Dio non “rispetta la verità” su ciò che ogni religione insegna, ha detto. “Questo non aiuta [i fedeli]”. Burke esorta ad “Esaminare attentamente ciò che l'Islam è, e ciò che la nostra fede cristiana ci insegna”, perché non sono la stessa cosa. A detta del Cardinale, nulla è cambiato nell'agenda islamica dai secoli passati, cioè dal tempo in cui i Cristiani furono chiamati alla difesa della sacra Verità, vedendo che essa era attaccata dall'Islam.
Cardinal Burke does not want to proclaim the Faith and be a martyr I have mentioned that if Fr.Brian Harrison, of the Oblates of Wisdom, was willing to say clearly at Holy Mass that outside the Church there is no salvation and there are only Catholics in Heaven, Catholics from all over Missiouri would want to come to his church on Sundays. Let him say that Vatican Council II tells us that all Hindus …Altro
Cardinal Burke does not want to proclaim the Faith and be a martyr
I have mentioned that if Fr.Brian Harrison, of the Oblates of Wisdom, was willing to say clearly at Holy Mass that outside the Church there is no salvation and there are only Catholics in Heaven, Catholics from all over Missiouri would want to come to his church on Sundays. Let him say that Vatican Council II tells us that all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Orthodox Christians and Protestants are on the way to the fires of Hell without 'faith and baptism',without Catholic Faith. Let him say in his homilies that Vatican Council II says Catholics are the new people of God (NA 4), Catholics are the Chosen People, they are the continuation of the Jewish religion.Then watch how his church fills up over the weeks. Let him say Vatican Council II indicates most people on earth are on the way to the fires of Hell, since they die without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14). Let him appeal to all Catholic politicians to not separate Church and State, for the common good i.e to save the maximum number of people from going to Hell.The Social Reign of Christ the King over all political leglisation must be supported,since outside the Church there is no salvation, there is no known salvation( EENS Feeneyite).The Church has the fullness of truth and it is the only means of salvation through visible and formal membership. All need to be visible members of the Church to avoid Hell and so it is imperative that all laws and social norms follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, the only Church Jesus founded. Let Fr.Brian Harrison say all this in church. Let him express it directly and he will be teaching Catholics the truth about the Faith. The same must be said about journalists like Carl E.Olson the Editor of the Catholic World Report and John Henry Weston the Editor of Life Sites.Like Cardinal Burke they interpret Islam with an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. Cardinal Burke was speaking to reporters on Hope for the World: To Unite All Things in Christ which according to Life Sites is a newly-published book-length interview with French journalist Guillaume d’Alançon.None of the journalists asked him the right questions since they also interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingite theology, the new theology which is based on an irrational premise and conclusion. Presently Cardinal Burke with lies is changing the interpretation of Vatican Council II. He is changing the interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite), the Nicene Creed( Feeneyite), the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Feeneyite) and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949( Feeneyite in the first part). If he started speaking the truth may be the USCCB would inform him that he is wrong and demand that he persist in telling the lie. Catholics do not know that Cardinal Bruke is already using the pro-USCCB lie. Catholics in general are also not aware that they also use a lie, a falsehood, to interpret Vatican Council II as a break with Tradition. Theologically they contradictJesus' teachings in the Bible( John 3:5, Mark 16:16). Cardinal Burke does not want to be accused of being a fundamentalist here.If he would preach the truth they would accuse him of being a Feeneyite, a bigot, a racist and an Anti-Semitic.He may have to offer Holy Mass in jail or in church with tight security. But then, like I mentioned with reference to Fr. Brian Harrison, he would still live and offer Holy Mass without first class heresy , without a sacrilege and without the present reputation for dishonesty. If he was killed it would be as a martyr for Jesus and His Church, outside of which there is no salvation, in which he died with virtue.-Lionel Andrades SEPTEMBER 4, 2016 Fr.Brian Harrison does not want to proclaim the Faith and be a martyr
Cardinal Raymond Burke is a liberal who offers the Latin Mass. : Comments on Islam were conditioned by a Cushingite interpretation of Vatican Council II Cardinal Raymond Burke has once agian indicated that he is a liberal who offers the Latin Mass.His comments on Islam were conditioned by a Cushingite interpretation of Vatican Council II. Cardinal Burke was speaking to reporters on Hope for the …Altro
Cardinal Raymond Burke has once agian indicated that he is a liberal who offers the Latin Mass.His comments on Islam were conditioned by a Cushingite interpretation of Vatican Council II. Cardinal Burke was speaking to reporters on Hope for the World: To Unite All Things in Christ which according to Life Sites is a newly-published book-length interview with French journalist Guillaume d’Alançon .1 Other media refer to it as a new book.
In a previous blog post 2 I had written that it is often said that if it was not for Archbishop Lefebvre and the Traditional Latin Mass ( TLM) the Catholic Faith would not exist , as it was known over the centuries.This is not true.Cardinal Burke has confirmed this. He is not choosing to interpret other religions, salvation, ecumenism, Social Reign of Christ the King with Feeneyism. Instead he has chosen the liberal and irrational Cushingite theology which is a break with Tradition. The liturgy does not determine the Faith.The liturgy has not preserved the Faith.So it is the same liturgy but with different doctrines and ecclesiology on Islam ,Judaism and other religions. I had mentioned that 'today when Cardinal Raymond Burke for example, offers Holy Mass ad orientem it is a rupture with the TLM ecclesiology of the 16th century missionaries.' According to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( EENS-Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II ( Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14) all Muslims in 2016 are on the way to Hell without 'faith and baptism'.There may be 'good and holy things' in Islam or Judaism( Nostra Aetate 2).However the religion is not a path to salvation ( CDF,Notification on Fr. J.Dupuis 2000). When is he going to say this ? He cannot.Since theologically he is a liberal and in line with the political Left's Cushingism. 'If he rejected the second part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and accepted only the first part he would return to the old ecclesiology. He would be saying hypothetical cases are just hypothetical.He returns to the old 16th century ecclesiology of the missionaries which Pope Benedict XVI rejected recently. The popes interpret hypothetical cases in Vatican Council II as being personally known and so are exceptions to EENS( Feeneyite). 'Cardinal Raymond Burke has to make a simple switch mentally and recognise that hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are always theoretical for us, accepted in principle,in good faith, speculatively. 'He has to recognise that Vatican Council II has made a mistake indirectly when it supposes hypothetical cases are not hypothetical.It made a mistake directly when it mentions being saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. This should not have been there in the text of AG 7 and LG 16.Since it is a reference to non existing people in our reality.The baptism of desire etc is not relevant to all needing 'faith and baptism' for salvation(AG 7).'
'I attend Mass with EENS( Feeneyite), Vatican Council II( Feneyite-no known exceptions to EENS), the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Feeneyite-hypothetical cases are not objectively known), Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite-there is one known baptism for the forgiveness of sins and not three),Letter of the Holy Office 1949( Feeneyite-first part of the Letter), ecumemism of return( Feeneyite-since there is no known salvation outside the Church), inter-religious dialogue ( Feeneyite-outside the Church there is no salvation), Social Reign of Christ the King ( Feeneyite-since outside the Church there is no salvation), the non separation of Church and State( Feeneyite-since outside the Church there is no salvation),eschatology( Feeneyite-there are only Catholics in Heaven since outside the Church there is no salvation) and the old ecclesiology( Feeneyite-based on EENS Feeneyite). 'For Cardinal Burke, Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Bishop Bernard Fellay it is the opposite. They offer Holy Mass with EENS(Cushingite), Vatican Council II( Cushingite-there are known exceptions to EENS), the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Cushingite-hypothetical cases are objectively known in 2016), Nicene Creed ( Cushingite-there is not one known baptism for the forgiveness of sins but three or more ),Letter of the Holy Office 1949( Cushingite-second part of the Letter is accepted which contradicts the first part), ecumemism of return( Cushingite-this ecumenism is rejected since allegedly there is known salvation outside the Church,there is the Anonymous Christian).It is the new ecumenism for them.For them inter-religious dialogue is Cushingite- since outside the Church there is known salvation.The Social Reign of Christ the King is Cushingite-since outside the Church there is known salvation.The non separation of Church and State is the result of Cushingism since outside the Church there is known salvation.Eschatology is Cushingite-there are not only Catholics in Heaven but non Catholics too, since outside the Church there is salvation.Ecclesiology is Cushingite-based on EENS Cushingite. So his statements on other religions and salvation is a break with Tradition. There is also relativism on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation.He overlooks this point which Louie Verrecchio has brought out well.3 He offers the Latin Mass but his eccclesiology is new.It is the same as the Novus Ordo Mass. Compared to the teachings of the popes and saints on Islam he offers only relativism based on an irrational and non traditional interpretation of Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades
