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French Bishops Receive Roman Rite Delegation

Tours Bishop Vincent Jordy and Rouen Bishop Dominique Lebrun, France, received two Mass Catholics, Philippe Darantiere and Marie-Amelie Brocard, reports RenaissanceCatholique.fr.

The February 21 meeting at the bishops' headquarters lasted an hour and a half. The Catholics asked for access to all sacraments and funeral ceremonies; the right of priests to celebrate Mass; Catholic catechesis; and the bishops' willingness to accept independent Catholic schools.

The meeting resulted in a wishy-washy memorandum to Reims Bishop Éric de Moulin-Beaufort, the presiding French bishop who didn’t have the grace to turn up.

It proposes to repeat such meetings to "deepen reflection" on how to strengthen "ecclesial communion" between Catholics and diocesan careerists. On the day of the meeting, Francis' latest attack on the Mass was published.

In France, less than 2% of the baptised Catholics are practising. Of those under the age of 40, a quarter (!) attend Mass and are the most fervent group. The bishops cannot afford to lose them, whether Francis likes it or not.

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Growth occurs under persecution. Traditional minded Bishops, priests, and laity will find ways around the modernist dictat restricting the traditional rite. Can't have it at a parish church, then they'll go to the parish hall, or school gym, or private make-shift chapel. What the modernist fear the most has already began -the new traditional springtime of the Church, mostly by young Catholics with …More
Growth occurs under persecution. Traditional minded Bishops, priests, and laity will find ways around the modernist dictat restricting the traditional rite. Can't have it at a parish church, then they'll go to the parish hall, or school gym, or private make-shift chapel. What the modernist fear the most has already began -the new traditional springtime of the Church, mostly by young Catholics with large families who have no loyalties to the failed 1960s theology of the Dictator Pope and his like minded ilk. The traditional movement is growing and there is no stopping it, while the Novus Ordo is dying on the vine.
Lisi Sterndorfer
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If the Japanese could keep Tradition without priests for 200 years, we can keep Tradition without a bishop for at least that long.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
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@Lisi Sterndorfer -Thank you for such a beautiful post and picture. It reminds me of some of the religious pictures my Grandmom has in our attic, and one similar in her room in our house. Yes, during the period of persecution during the Tokugawa Shogunate, (1603-1868) tens of thousands of Japanese Catholics kept the Faith alive without bishops, and no priests ( historians think there might have been …More
@Lisi Sterndorfer -Thank you for such a beautiful post and picture. It reminds me of some of the religious pictures my Grandmom has in our attic, and one similar in her room in our house. Yes, during the period of persecution during the Tokugawa Shogunate, (1603-1868) tens of thousands of Japanese Catholics kept the Faith alive without bishops, and no priests ( historians think there might have been a handful of "secrete" priests during this whole time). They were indeed "underground Christians" who risked death if discovered. The same thing happened to the Faithful Catholics of England during the Elizabethan years. I read an interesting book about her, that she really didn't want to fiercely persecute Catholics, but bent to the will of some of her radical advisors such as Francis Wallsingham who was a genuinely evil man....much in the mold of Pope Francis (Bergoglio).
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This is the glory of man: to persevere and remain in the service of God. -St Irenaeus
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
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The French Catholics, and all thouse around the world, should disobey, disrespect, and defy any and all directives coming from Francis and his Vatican regarding the attempt to suppress the classical Roman Latin Mass. Anone (such as Francis,Roche, Cupich,Gregory, et al), who are so violently against the ancient LAtin Mass whcih has produced all of our Saints including the greatest names, the greatest …More
The French Catholics, and all thouse around the world, should disobey, disrespect, and defy any and all directives coming from Francis and his Vatican regarding the attempt to suppress the classical Roman Latin Mass. Anone (such as Francis,Roche, Cupich,Gregory, et al), who are so violently against the ancient LAtin Mass whcih has produced all of our Saints including the greatest names, the greatest litrugy, religious music, chant, art, architecture, they deserve to be disrespected and defied. They and their Novus Ordo"mass" which has caused the greatest collapse of the Catholic Faith since the Protestant Reformation, with no sign of stopping deserve to be totally ignored and repudiated and disavowed.
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"Be cunning as serpents and gentle as doves".
Disrespect does not need to be part of the response. It hurts us.
Even if it comes from righteous anger.
To be cunning as serpents allows us to find ways to circumvent unjust orders, all the while respecting that God has allowed the wicked their authority to lord it over us, but only for a time, because He will not be mocked. Saints in the past rejoiced …More
"Be cunning as serpents and gentle as doves".
Disrespect does not need to be part of the response. It hurts us.
Even if it comes from righteous anger.
To be cunning as serpents allows us to find ways to circumvent unjust orders, all the while respecting that God has allowed the wicked their authority to lord it over us, but only for a time, because He will not be mocked. Saints in the past rejoiced with every opportunity they were given to suffer for Him. It is our turn to do the same. Let's celebrate the traditions of our faith however we can. If it is not the Mass, then teach the faith, live the faith, learn the prayers and pray them, nurture the domestic church in your own home (that is very important) and learn/teach the sacred music from previous eras (gregorian chants and traditional hymns). We do not need permission to do any of these. Even when Our Lord is sleeping in the boat, He is still in control, and will act at the right time.
Blessings to you!
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
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@jobina -Thank you for such a nice post and such good advice!
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