mccallansteve
As a trad, I hate the Novus Ordo the most. Only God can comprehend the damage it has done to His Church and beloved people
GaryLockhart
Call Father Z.
pgmgn
I'd say use your 'phone a friend' option, but this is a tough one.
Just me
I'd go with vll. Without that, we wouldn't have to worry about the rest.
pgmgn
VII didn't create the Novus Ordo. It's cited as a reason, much like the devil 'made' me do it. And then there's that illusive 'spirit' of VII. Another animal entirely.