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Müller: Heretic Pope Automatically Loses Office - Really?

In Germany, right now Catholic institutions, church tax income and Church buildings are being appropriated for an organisation that has abandoned the Catholic faith, Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller (74) told Kath.net (15 November).

The Creed is being "replaced by the idol of pagan homosexual ideology" and the flag of victory of the Risen Christ by a homosex badge.

Müller notes that the synodal themes revolve exclusively and incessantly around sex as an egomaniacal source of pleasure. He says that "sexology" has replaced theology as the leading science.

The Cardinal cites the Protestant Barmer Declaration of 1934 against the National Socialist German Christians: "We reject the false teaching that the Church may abandon its message and its constitution to the whims or fluctuations of the prevailing ideological and political convictions of the day."

Neither a council nor a pope can change dogmas and introduce, for example, women's ordination or homosexual "blessings," Müller clarifies. A pope as a private person can become a heretic, leading to the automatic loss of his office, "if his disagreement with revelation and the dogmatic teaching of the Church is evident."

Müller does not explain how this automatic loss of office looks like in practice.

Picture: Gerhard Ludwig Müller, © Mazur, CC BY-SA, #newsTuruwsuiri

Darrell J Roman
Well.... What are they waiting for???? Hasn't Francis given them enough proof?
la verdad prevalece
The Magisterium of the Church has decreed in perpetuity that the elevation of a heretic to the papacy is invalid and null. Bergoglio is not a Pope fallen into heresy but a heretic who usurps the papacy.
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Cdl Mueller: a pope who would become a heretic would automatically lose his office.
foward
He's right.And how to solve the crisis, only God can do. But you have to want it.
A Muslim, for example, cannot be the pope.
Maybe it is that too few ask for this.
Salvatore Bastatti
Bergoglio, so far as I can tell, hates Christ and His Church, tout court..
Tony M
Bergoglio's "disagreement with revelation and dogmatic teaching" is evident and manifest to the Sensus Fidelium of all true Catholics. Only the willfully ignorant would not have seen this after nearly 10 years of Bergoglian doctrinal chaos coming from the Chair of Peter. Clearly Cardinal Muller, you must now see the need for an Imperfect Council to identify the invalid nature of this apostate anti …More
Bergoglio's "disagreement with revelation and dogmatic teaching" is evident and manifest to the Sensus Fidelium of all true Catholics. Only the willfully ignorant would not have seen this after nearly 10 years of Bergoglian doctrinal chaos coming from the Chair of Peter. Clearly Cardinal Muller, you must now see the need for an Imperfect Council to identify the invalid nature of this apostate anti-papacy and how it all came about.
Saying a valid Pope can be a heretic is like saying 1+1=3.
It is not possible!!!
porta folio manager
@Tony M It is as you explain... a Pope can not become to be an heretic... BUT our conciliar friends does not want to believe it "as is", so they invent one and hundred excuses for his "pope" AND for themselves
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
@John Fritz Logan is correct, I believe. There is growing resistance to both the Synod on Synodality of Francis, and resistance to Francis in general within the Catholic Church and the College of Cardinals. Anyone who believes that every Cardinal created by Francis agrees with his agenda is in violation of valid judgement. Many oppose him. There are a core that are for him, but many of these are …More
@John Fritz Logan is correct, I believe. There is growing resistance to both the Synod on Synodality of Francis, and resistance to Francis in general within the Catholic Church and the College of Cardinals. Anyone who believes that every Cardinal created by Francis agrees with his agenda is in violation of valid judgement. Many oppose him. There are a core that are for him, but many of these are close to 80 (Ouellett, Mariadiaga, etc.) True, a few of the good Cardinals are close to 80 as well.
Muller is in strong position to be elected Pope. So are Erdo, Eijk, and Sarah. Even Burke. People like Parolin and Tagle are ruined . Parolin by the Becciu story and enormous scandals about Vatican finances, ad Tagle over China and Cardinal Zen.
We might even get a Pope who isn't even a Cardinal....some orthodox good man who was consistantly overlooked deliberatly and out of malice by Francis.
Clement Jaeho Chung
@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori Kenjiro...I think many,include me...many orthodox Catholic People worry about futuer Conclave!!! be cause Bergoglio make so many wrong mans to Cardinals....of course not 100%...even though Bergoglio made Cardinal...but some have Orthodox Cardinals....like Eminence Cardinal Muller and my Former Archbishop of Seoul..Cardinal Andrew Yeom..Cardinal Philip Ouedragogo, Archbishop Of …More
@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori Kenjiro...I think many,include me...many orthodox Catholic People worry about futuer Conclave!!! be cause Bergoglio make so many wrong mans to Cardinals....of course not 100%...even though Bergoglio made Cardinal...but some have Orthodox Cardinals....like Eminence Cardinal Muller and my Former Archbishop of Seoul..Cardinal Andrew Yeom..Cardinal Philip Ouedragogo, Archbishop Of Ougadugou, Burkina Faso....but so many wrong mans..like Cupich, Tobin, MCelory....so many Orthodox Catholic People worry...we will worst than Bergoglio Pope....really hope Lord will choose to Orthodox Pope..Fast time....and Kenjiro...little bit lucky result of USCCB President...I saw...new President of USCCB...Excellency Archbishop Broglio(Archbishop of US Military..)...I heard even though not Perfect...but he against to LGBT,Reckless Abortion....I heard...Bergoglio want Archbishop Of Seattle...Paul Dennis Etienne to New President USCCB....he support to all wrong Ideologies...so I think much better result....vice president is a William Lori...I heard..he is a not so terrible bad...but not so good....I really hope Excellency Archbishop Cordileone..(Archbishop of San Francisco)elected vice president...really hope next time...he will elect about new USCCB president...and really hope New USCCB President against to Biden, crazy Radical Leftist Democrats Agenda.....many talking sorry....take care..God bless always you and all your family...Holy Mary, All Angels and Saints..pray for us..Amen...
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
@Clement Jaeho Chung --Thank you Clement for news about the USCCB, I didn't know that. It turned out better than we hoped. Very glad Bergoglio's candidate lost. There are still many good orthodox Bishops here in the USA, but Bergoglio is trying to destroy them by putting in some people of his thinking. Bergoglio doesn't look good health wise. My uncle is a doctor, and said that he thinks Francis …More
@Clement Jaeho Chung --Thank you Clement for news about the USCCB, I didn't know that. It turned out better than we hoped. Very glad Bergoglio's candidate lost. There are still many good orthodox Bishops here in the USA, but Bergoglio is trying to destroy them by putting in some people of his thinking. Bergoglio doesn't look good health wise. My uncle is a doctor, and said that he thinks Francis has many more health issues than just his knee. My uncle gives Bergoglio another 6-7 months, and then suspects that Francis will be dead. I'm always surprised how many faithful Catholics hate Francis, and wish him gone (dead). I like never to say that, but I think he will be dead very soon, and people like Cupich, Tobin, Mariadiaga, Roche, Parolin and Tagle, etc. will be in a panic, because the new Pope won't be a clone of Bergoglio.
John Fritz Logan
@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori I have looked at the cardinals. The bad ones aren't soo many, all added up together they'll likely fluctuate around 40 at the end of this year.
Francis only added 4 real bad (MAYBE 5) cardinal electors out of 16 this year. Yet at least 2 bad ones are turning 80. Maradagia will in 43 days and Gianfranco Ravasi thankfully turned 80 last months.
He added at least 5 really good ones: …More
@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori I have looked at the cardinals. The bad ones aren't soo many, all added up together they'll likely fluctuate around 40 at the end of this year.

Francis only added 4 real bad (MAYBE 5) cardinal electors out of 16 this year. Yet at least 2 bad ones are turning 80. Maradagia will in 43 days and Gianfranco Ravasi thankfully turned 80 last months.

He added at least 5 really good ones:

Baawobr from Ghana (supported laws criminalising homosexual practices)

Okpaleke (from Nigeria)

Goh (Singapore has defended anti-sodomy law, opposed gay marriage and abortion)

do Carmo da Silva (from East Timor has criticised LGBT promotion)

Marengo (missionary leader in Mongolia, against shamanism and syncretism, said next Pope should firmly adhere to doctrine)

These 5 were great additions just this year.

As a Korean, I wanted your opnion regarding You Heung-sik. He defended priestly celibacy during the youth synod in 2018 I know.
Clement Jaeho Chung
@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori thanks a lot about your kind words....even though I have so many sins...I have so many faults...but I hope protect to our Orthodox teachings...so I always happy to hear about your opinion....thanks a lot...and I hope tell once again...I heard....Beroglio will visit to DR Congo and South Sudan..Next year February...so terrible....Bergoglio want destroying to our Orthodox teachings …More
@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori thanks a lot about your kind words....even though I have so many sins...I have so many faults...but I hope protect to our Orthodox teachings...so I always happy to hear about your opinion....thanks a lot...and I hope tell once again...I heard....Beroglio will visit to DR Congo and South Sudan..Next year February...so terrible....Bergoglio want destroying to our Orthodox teachings..I am sure...he will trying remove orthodox teaching in Africa...it's make me so much angry...hmm...if,if before Bergoglio visit to DR Congo, South Sudan....this crazy old man gone...ah...it's miracle....I really hope it...Bergoglio's time much longer...our Church is much destroying...ah..Kenjiro...I remember...do you think many Cardinals, Bishops are worry about Bergoglio??? these days...I feels so horrible about their silence...if, if Many Cardinals, Bishops worry about Bergoglio..I think they need action..this time!!!! many talking sorry...our Lord Sacred Heart of Jesus blessed always you and all your family..lovely people....!!! Holy Mary,All Angels and Saints..pray for us..Amen..take care..always learning a lot about your great opinions...
Clement Jaeho Chung
@John Fritz Logan I hope tell about Cardinal You Heung-sik....his diocese..Diocese of Daejoen..Korea...support to all wrong Ideologies...wrong Eco Agenda...and LGBT Ideologies....so I can't believe him....and I saw the News...your Archbishop...Eminence Cardinal Eijk said about Pope must make about against to Gender Ideology......so great action!!! I am sure....if...if Eminence Cardinal Eijk will be …More
@John Fritz Logan I hope tell about Cardinal You Heung-sik....his diocese..Diocese of Daejoen..Korea...support to all wrong Ideologies...wrong Eco Agenda...and LGBT Ideologies....so I can't believe him....and I saw the News...your Archbishop...Eminence Cardinal Eijk said about Pope must make about against to Gender Ideology......so great action!!! I am sure....if...if Eminence Cardinal Eijk will be Holy Father...ah...really emotion...just really hope fast time..we will meet Orthodox Pope...many talking sorry...God bless always you and all your family..lovely people..take care....cheerful to you too^^
John Fritz Logan
@Clement Jaeho Chung Bergoglio will likely not offend Africans, he often tries to be liked by different nations.
I always like your talking btw.
Do you have any sources regarding You Heung-sik?More
@Clement Jaeho Chung Bergoglio will likely not offend Africans, he often tries to be liked by different nations.

I always like your talking btw.

Do you have any sources regarding You Heung-sik?
John Fritz Logan
I wonder if Muller is looking ahead to a conclave annd/or trying to pre-emptively build resistance to any crazy ideas Bergoglio might have...
Liam Ronan
Formally and openly call for Francis to publicly and personally swear to (on a fixed date and time) Pope St. Pius X's Oath Against Modernism.
The Oath Against Modernism - Papal Encyclicals