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Williamson Consecrates More Bishops

Bishop Richard Williamson has consecrated English Father Paul Morgan and Polish Father Michal Stobnicki as bishops in a secret (!) ceremony, reports Riposte-Catholique.fr (May 23). Stobnicki is a former …More
Bishop Richard Williamson has consecrated English Father Paul Morgan and Polish Father Michal Stobnicki as bishops in a secret (!) ceremony, reports Riposte-Catholique.fr (May 23). Stobnicki is a former PiusX district superior. Since Williamson was expelled from PiusX in 2012, he has now consecrated eight bishops, including Faure (2015), Dom Thomas Aquinas (2016), Zendejas (2017) and Ballini (2021). The latter's consecration was kept secret for two years.
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Live Mike
Is there a present exigent circumstance or other emergency which not only permits but requires such a consecration of a bishop? Of course there is. The failure to properly see these consecrations in that context is nonsensical. The Rite of the Consecration of a Bishop in the Catholic Church - Wikisource, the free online library
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
The only legit consecration of a Bishop in the Catholic Church is that established by the Council of Trent. Even some recent Vatican Cardinals (unfortunatly all deceased), admitted that the Vatican II Rite of Consecration for a Bishop was/is fabricated, and it's validity is questionable.
Credo .
@ Yoshimori. You assume too much. You do not speak for me anymore than I speak for you. Your attempts at ridicule, simply highlight your lack of ability to rationally articulate your position. I stress again you cannot assume what some one else is thinking on any topic. You claim to be a teacher, surely you should be aware of that simple fact. 🙏 🙏 🙏
Credo .
@Live Mike It's nonsensical to say they may be illicit, but they are legitimate.
Live Mike
Illicit perhaps but they are validly consecrated bishops.
jrlomy2k
They are all invalid as were his other ones and the ones that promulgated from them. No papal mandate, no bishops
Sister Mary of the Trinity
Lack of papal mandate doesn't invalidate orders.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
I agree. These are valid bishops who will be administering valid Catholic sacraments according to Catholic tradition, not the "perhaps" valid Vatican II bishops dispensing fabricated, improvised, make-it-up-as-we-go-along sacraments that have no basis in Catholic tradition at all.
Scapular
What choice when you are in a desert?
Seabass
Thank you, +Williamson! Also, thanks for knocking the satanists pics off as the top story on this site. I'm sure it's just temporary relief, but just the same...🙏
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
Good for him!!! Better to have true Catholic bishops, even if hey are so called "illicit" or sede-vacantist, than the pro-TRANs, pro-LGBTQ or openly homo bishops we have in the Church today , especially thanks to "pope" Francis.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
@credo-Sorry, but I know many people who would agree with me. If I had a choice as to who was a legit Bishop, one appointed by the SSPX or Williamson- someone they pick who is a scholar and a holy person in the Faith and who loves the Church and tradition, OR a theologically illiterate buffoon who has "the smell of the sheep" and the poor, who disregards any and all Catholic teachings that don't …More
@credo-Sorry, but I know many people who would agree with me. If I had a choice as to who was a legit Bishop, one appointed by the SSPX or Williamson- someone they pick who is a scholar and a holy person in the Faith and who loves the Church and tradition, OR a theologically illiterate buffoon who has "the smell of the sheep" and the poor, who disregards any and all Catholic teachings that don't suit the times regardless what they are, who hates Catholic piety and tradition including the Roman Latin Mass, who preaches heresy and is an apostate, who is open to blessings for sodomy, who welcomes homosexuals and TRANS into the Church and applaudes their lifestyle....then I'd support the SSPX and/or sede-vacantist newly appointed bishops because I know they will lead me and other faithful to Heaven, not to Hell. 🤪
Credo .
It is you Yoshimori who are deciding that the behavior of Williamson is legitimate, not Almighty God.
The reality is they have placed themselves OUTSIDE OF THE MYSTICAL BODY OF THE CHURCH. Therefore they cannot be receiving the fruits and graces of THE CHURCH.
What you have said may be true for the short term, however the whole exercise of Williamson and his clique will prove to be disastrous.
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It is you Yoshimori who are deciding that the behavior of Williamson is legitimate, not Almighty God.

The reality is they have placed themselves OUTSIDE OF THE MYSTICAL BODY OF THE CHURCH. Therefore they cannot be receiving the fruits and graces of THE CHURCH.

What you have said may be true for the short term, however the whole exercise of Williamson and his clique will prove to be disastrous.
It follows that your support for them is doomed to the same fate. 🙏🙏🙏
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
@Credo : So you'd rather hav everyone accept Pope Francis and his homo loving bishops? I think millions of faithful Catholics are way beyond that. We're beyond, "Yes ,Holy Father Francis, whatever you say...we love you, Holy Father"
Sister Mary of the Trinity
Credo is wrong. Heresy, Pachamama worship, and the like of things Francis does constantly turns a baptized Catholic in a DEAD member of the Church. That is basic Catechism.
Carol H
Credo is right. The devil always plays both sides of the street. Bishop Williamson is willy nilly making secret bishops without any proof that they have been correctly done or whether the candidates are fit for purpose. Yoshimori - you speak of h0mo-loving bishops - well check out Bishop Williamson's past: Carlos Urrutigoity is one of the biggest scandals in the church and it was Bishop Williamson …More
Credo is right. The devil always plays both sides of the street. Bishop Williamson is willy nilly making secret bishops without any proof that they have been correctly done or whether the candidates are fit for purpose. Yoshimori - you speak of h0mo-loving bishops - well check out Bishop Williamson's past: Carlos Urrutigoity is one of the biggest scandals in the church and it was Bishop Williamson who pushed for and defended his ordination despite prior and official warnings of Urrutigoity being a dangerous predator. Bishop Williamson also sent a priest, who had been formally taken off the circuit for two accounts of child abuse, back into circulation to stay with a family full of young boys. What guarantees can you give me that His Lordship will not make the same grave mistakes again? What makes him different from all those other bishops who have allowed this stuff near our children? Becareful - sometimes when we are so focused on what we are backing away from, we neglect to check what we are backing into. T
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
@Carol H -I didn't know about Williamson's failures regarding the homo priests he allowed back into service or ordination. That was wrong. But the bottom line is that regardless of his misjudgements, Williamson represents a true line of bishops, and upholds true Catholic belief and tradition, especially in the traditonal Roman Mass....not the fabricated, make -it-up as you wish Vatican II trash I,…More
@Carol H -I didn't know about Williamson's failures regarding the homo priests he allowed back into service or ordination. That was wrong. But the bottom line is that regardless of his misjudgements, Williamson represents a true line of bishops, and upholds true Catholic belief and tradition, especially in the traditonal Roman Mass....not the fabricated, make -it-up as you wish Vatican II trash I, and so many other Catholics were unfortunate enough to grow up with. I found my Catholic Faith at 23, (I'm only 28), after going to the Latin Mass with my Aunt, after spending the previous 15+ years in the worthless Novus Ordo and seeing more abuses than I can count ( like a priest giving a dog Holy Communion).
So regardless of Williamson's errors, he's a real Bishop, and so are his appointees. Not the heretics and homo-lovers appointed by "pope" Francis.
Carol H
Actions speak louder than words. Many of the priests that Bishop williamson has ordained or mentored are problem priests/ex-priests today. By way of example, I provided two dangerous errors of judgement commited by His Lordship; I could provide dozens more. As you will agree, its not enough to talk the talk - its how one puts that talk into action. Spouting dogmas and appearing to up hold certain …More
Actions speak louder than words. Many of the priests that Bishop williamson has ordained or mentored are problem priests/ex-priests today. By way of example, I provided two dangerous errors of judgement commited by His Lordship; I could provide dozens more. As you will agree, its not enough to talk the talk - its how one puts that talk into action. Spouting dogmas and appearing to up hold certain Catholic traditions is pointless if one regularly commits actions that undermine the very foundation of the Church and place children in danger. Introducing unworthy and even dangerous candidates into the priesthood is just as bad as anything else you have accused modernist clergy of. Naturally I and others are concerned. Especially now that Bishop Williamson is ordaining bishops in secret.
Michael Son of the Servant of John
So what are you using for your sources? My guess it's accusations made by those that have an interest in discrediting, especially as he's a "holohaux denier."