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Baptized Indian – Who Continued Practicing Native Rituals – on Route to Beatification

A Vatican postulator recently travelled to South Dakota, USA, to gather information for the beatification of Nicholas Black Elk (+1950), a Lakota Sioux medicine man who became a Catholic catechist.

This initiative is surprising as Black Elk has always maintained his pagan traditions alongside with Catholicism. He used to participate regularly in both, Holy Mass and Lakota ceremonies.

His granddaughter Charlotte Black Elk, an attorney, expressed to ReligionNews.com (August 21) her doubts that her grandfather “ever truly held Catholic beliefs”.

According to her, he became a Catholic catechist because of perks, including a car.

Picture: Nicholas Black Elk, #newsNcysesrzzo
CarolineA03
@Prayhard @joseph a' Christian
Who in fact IS JP II? This is frightening but I received a shock when I received from a friend,
a link to a few of Dr Peter Beter (friend and colleague of JFK)
He wrote some intelligence reports - there are also hisaudio recordings which can be heard on YOUTUBE - No 41 - is the one I came to see - This has just been sent to me - and I haven't time to view the others …More
@Prayhard @joseph a' Christian

Who in fact IS JP II? This is frightening but I received a shock when I received from a friend,
a link to a few of Dr Peter Beter (friend and colleague of JFK)
He wrote some intelligence reports - there are also hisaudio recordings which can be heard on YOUTUBE - No 41 - is the one I came to see - This has just been sent to me - and I haven't time to view the others at the moment.

Intelligence report (no 41) calls into question that "JPII" was the same person as Cardinal Karol Wojtyla. I couldn't believe it when I saw it - It shocked me!.....

It's also not spoken of at all - it's been kept hidden - that - in 1973 the Marian Press in Canada hired Private Detectives (Pinkertons Agency) who went to Rome to gather information on the confusing happenings taking place in the Vatican.

From the out of print book "The Broken Cross - the hidden hand in the Vatican" by Piers Compton
NB: Please note this book is so expensive to buy as a second hand copy it is unlikely many people will ever get to read it.

From chapter 11
"At length stories emanating from Rome of sacrilege and abuses committed in church, with the approval of the Pope, became so startling, that groups of people in Europe and America decided to take action.

This culminated in a Mr. Daniel Scallen of the Marian Press in Georgetown, Ontario, Canada, employing the Pinkerton Detective Agency in New York to investigate. One of the agency’s detectives was sent, in 1973, to Rome, and he returned with a story that dwarfed all other speculations, however sensational.

He had determined that there were two Popes living in the Vatican, Paul VI and an impostor who had been made to resemble Montini with the aid of plastic surgery. Several such operations were necessary, and when colour photographs of the false Pope were sent to interested circles in Munich, where the imposture is still receiving concentrated study, there were certain noticeable differences in the two sets of features that could not be overcome.

To point out the differences: Montini had clear blue eyes, large, and being long-sighted he only required glasses for near viewing. The impostor had green eyes, small, and he wore glasses with thick lenses on all occasions."

Allegedly the earlier Paul VI spoke fluent French - and the Paul VI of later - according to the visiting Government Officials- was found to not know the fundamentals of holding a spiritual discourse on issues relating to Catholicism.

As well as this - on Jean-Baptiste Andre's documentary relating to the Survival after 1978 of Paul VI there is an audio recording where Abp Lefebvre can be heard saying that he had a note that he carried with him which had been handed to him after a meeting in 1988. The note said

"Ordain many Bishops " and was signed

"Paul VI"

God help our Church - there is not much left of it - if either of these reports are authenticated.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/…/audioletters_41…
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/…/brokencross11.h…
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Prayhard
The last paragraphs suggests a real FrancisSaint.
tbswv
The most violent and cruel indian tribes were the Commanche, Apache, and Sioux. I wonder if Black Elk denounced the cruel treatment of settlers and other indian tribes at the hands of his fellow Sioux warriors.
Prayhard
A JP2 type Saint. He prayed with pagans and kissed the Quran.
prince0357
Please correct either Baptist or baptized!