Why Did Francis Create Such a Disaster with the Amazon Synod?
At the Amazon Synod, Francis followed Argentinean President Juan Perón’s (+1974) words, “I put the turning-light to the left, but I turn to the right," Caminante-Wanderer.Blogspot.com (February 26) …More
At the Amazon Synod, Francis followed Argentinean President Juan Perón’s (+1974) words, “I put the turning-light to the left, but I turn to the right," Caminante-Wanderer.Blogspot.com (February 26) writes.
Caminante also quotes Peronist President Néstor Kirchner (+2010): "Don't listen to what I say, but look at what I do."
The blog calls Francis “a Peronist,” saying that Francis’ nonsensical Amazon exhortation had the only effect that it was echoed by some imbecile priests, while “Bergoglio made conservative decisions.”
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Caminante also quotes Peronist President Néstor Kirchner (+2010): "Don't listen to what I say, but look at what I do."
The blog calls Francis “a Peronist,” saying that Francis’ nonsensical Amazon exhortation had the only effect that it was echoed by some imbecile priests, while “Bergoglio made conservative decisions.”
Picture: © Mazur, CC BY-NC-SA, #newsBpstltnykl
KristianKeller
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Antipope Francis is an apostate heretic, please see more at vaticancatholic.com and seek true traditional Catholic Faith. You have to be Catholic for Salvaiton.
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The dimond brothers are mistaken about baptism of desire and blood. Read this: baptismofdesire.com
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@mattsixteen24 No, you are wrong. You and others should watch following video: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/…/best-argument-b…
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@KristianKeller please read link. I was ignorant at one time too. Ask the dimond brothers to refute this. They won't be able to.
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They did refute it. Church has never taught Baptism of Desire in her Magisterial Teaching. In light of such facts, and the fact that you are familiar with what Bro. Dimonds irrefutably present, I must say that you are a liar. You are a tool that Satan uses, and you are a follower of men headed to hell. You are not a follower of God.
That page contains lies, heresies and falsehoods. People should …More
They did refute it. Church has never taught Baptism of Desire in her Magisterial Teaching. In light of such facts, and the fact that you are familiar with what Bro. Dimonds irrefutably present, I must say that you are a liar. You are a tool that Satan uses, and you are a follower of men headed to hell. You are not a follower of God.
That page contains lies, heresies and falsehoods. People should get this book, where true arguments are presented: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/…/outside-the-chu…
That page contains lies, heresies and falsehoods. People should get this book, where true arguments are presented: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/…/outside-the-chu…
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The Council of Trent.
KristianKeller
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@O Maoleoin Council of Trent never taught that BoD is a dogma. See the following: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/…/baptism-of-desi…
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Follow the Diamond brothers and you will end up losing your soul.
I see Baptism of Desire as protestantism where one reduces a whole SACRAMENT to something the individual achieves; bypassing the form, matter, minister, intension.
It is like the popular "believer's prayer" without removing the original sin and then confessions.
Baptism of desire is faith without work.
It is like the popular "believer's prayer" without removing the original sin and then confessions.
Baptism of desire is faith without work.
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From @mattsixteen24's link, we see that Baptism is the washing away of original sin and Martyrdom the crowning of virtues; and we know that the theological virtues are only given in Baptism.
Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
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@KristianKeller I use to think the same, but after reading that link you will see that the church has always taught bod&b. It's part of ordinary magisterium which is infallible. Please tell me where error is from that link to correct me.
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@KristianKeller the dimond brothers are guilty of private interpretation just like protestants. I've caught them in multiple occasions doing this.
The main purpose of that link was simply to state that they (not the Church) excommunicated Fr. Feeny. That there were no infiltrations. That Pope Pius XII believed that those that don't know Christ will receive baptism of desire (by stating that Pope Pius XII believed that ignorant...)
Please call me a Feeneyite @mattsixteen24. I don't want to wash pots in heaven (Hahaha. Just joking). The Dimond Brothers are very dear to God. The have defended the Catholic Faith while others get popular bashing them.
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@mattsixteen24 @O Maoleoin You are both tool that Satan uses to attack true Catholic position, lie and smear. Dimond Brothers are not guilty of private interpretation, they defend Church's teaching, the Magisterium of Catholic Church. By the way, the nonsense with soul of church, furthermore the man-made doctrines of baptism of blood and baptism of desire are not so much present in Eastern Catholic …More
@mattsixteen24 @O Maoleoin You are both tool that Satan uses to attack true Catholic position, lie and smear. Dimond Brothers are not guilty of private interpretation, they defend Church's teaching, the Magisterium of Catholic Church. By the way, the nonsense with soul of church, furthermore the man-made doctrines of baptism of blood and baptism of desire are not so much present in Eastern Catholic churches. In light of such facts, opinion of men, even of theologians have to be put aside, in case when it can be proven from Catholic doctrine that such opinion is not compatible with Catholic Teaching. So, in your pride you are rash, you are wrong and impious, and you are headed to hell you heretic(s).
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@mattsixteen24 also go ahead and email them and debate them, you will loose. Just as other proud and arrogant heretics did loose.
@mattsixteen24 is BoD a Sacrament?
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@KristianKeller The dimond brothers tell their followers to receive sacraments from the schismatic eastern church as they do.
Just to quote a few below, are you saying these are forgeries? If they are not, then you also declare them to be heretics as well as they hold to the belief of baptism of desire and blood.
St. Cyprian, Church Father (3rd Century): The Epistles of Cyprian, Epistle LXXII: "…More
@KristianKeller The dimond brothers tell their followers to receive sacraments from the schismatic eastern church as they do.
Just to quote a few below, are you saying these are forgeries? If they are not, then you also declare them to be heretics as well as they hold to the belief of baptism of desire and blood.
St. Cyprian, Church Father (3rd Century): The Epistles of Cyprian, Epistle LXXII: "Let men of this kind, who are aiders and favourers of heretics, know therefore, first, that those catechumens hold the sound faith and truth of the Church, and advance from the divine camp to do battle with the devil, with a full and sincere acknowledgment of God the Father, and of Christ, and of the Holy Ghost; then, that they certainly are not deprived of the sacrament of baptism who are baptized with the most glorious and greatest baptism of blood".
St. John Chrystostome, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century): Panegyric on St. Lucianus, "Do not be surprised that I should equate martyrdom with baptism; for here too the spirit blows with much fruitfulness, and a marvellous and astonishing remission of sins and cleansing of the soul is effected; and just as those who are baptized by water, so, too, those who suffer martyrdom are cleansed with their own blood."
St. Gregory Nazianzen, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century): Oration XXXIX, Oration on the Holy Lights: "I know also a Fourth Baptism--that by Martyrdom and blood, which also Christ himself underwent; and this one is far more august than all the others, inasmuch as it cannot be defiled by after-stains."
St. Bonaventure, Doctor of the Church (13th century): In Sent. IV, d.4,P.2,a.I,q.I: “God obliges no one to do the impossible and therefore it must be admitted that the baptism of desire without the baptism of water is sufficient, provided the person in question has the will to receive the baptism of water, but is prevented from doing so before he dies."
St. Alphonsus Liguori, Doctor of the Church (18th century): Moral Theology, Book 6, Section II (About Baptism and Confirmation), Chapter 1 (On Baptism), page 310, no. 96: "Baptism of desire is perfect conversion to God by contrition or love of God above all things accompanied by an explicit or implicit desire for true baptism of water, the place of which it takes as to the remission of guilt, but not as to the impression of the [baptismal] character or as to the removal of all debt of punishment. It is called "of wind" ["flaminis"] because it takes place by the impulse of the Holy Ghost who is called a wind ["flamen"]. Now it is "de fide" that men are also saved by Baptism of desire, by virtue of the Canon Apostolicam, "de presbytero non baptizato" and of the Council of Trent, session 6, Chapter 4 where it is said that no one can be saved 'without the laver of regeneration or the desire for it.'" (Note: Unbelievers can see the original book in Latin here. Turn to page 310 in the book (or page 157 of the PDF file).
Moral Theology, Bk. 6, nn. 95-97: "Baptism of blood is the shedding of one's blood, i.e. death, suffered for the faith or for some other Christian virtue. Now this Baptism is comparable to true baptism because, like true Baptism, it remits both guilt and punishment as it were ex opere operato… Hence martyrdom avails also for infants seeing that the Church venerates the Holy Innocents as true martyrs. That is why Suarez rightly teaches that the opposing view is at least temerarious."
On the Council of Trent, 1846, Pg. 128-129 (Duffy): "Who can deny that the act of perfect love of God, which is sufficient for justification, includes an implicit desire of Baptism, of Penance, and of the Eucharist. He who wishes the whole wishes the every part of that whole and all the means necessary for its attainment. In order to be justified without baptism, an infidel must love God above all things, and must have an universal will to observe all the divine precepts, among which the first is to receive baptism: and therefore in order to be justified it is necessary for him to have at least an implicit desire of that sacrament."
Pope Pius IX (19th century): Quanto Conficiamur Moerore, 1863: “There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace. Because God knows, searches and clearly understands the minds, hearts, thoughts, and nature of all, his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments.”
Just to quote a few below, are you saying these are forgeries? If they are not, then you also declare them to be heretics as well as they hold to the belief of baptism of desire and blood.
St. Cyprian, Church Father (3rd Century): The Epistles of Cyprian, Epistle LXXII: "Let men of this kind, who are aiders and favourers of heretics, know therefore, first, that those catechumens hold the sound faith and truth of the Church, and advance from the divine camp to do battle with the devil, with a full and sincere acknowledgment of God the Father, and of Christ, and of the Holy Ghost; then, that they certainly are not deprived of the sacrament of baptism who are baptized with the most glorious and greatest baptism of blood".
St. John Chrystostome, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century): Panegyric on St. Lucianus, "Do not be surprised that I should equate martyrdom with baptism; for here too the spirit blows with much fruitfulness, and a marvellous and astonishing remission of sins and cleansing of the soul is effected; and just as those who are baptized by water, so, too, those who suffer martyrdom are cleansed with their own blood."
St. Gregory Nazianzen, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century): Oration XXXIX, Oration on the Holy Lights: "I know also a Fourth Baptism--that by Martyrdom and blood, which also Christ himself underwent; and this one is far more august than all the others, inasmuch as it cannot be defiled by after-stains."
St. Bonaventure, Doctor of the Church (13th century): In Sent. IV, d.4,P.2,a.I,q.I: “God obliges no one to do the impossible and therefore it must be admitted that the baptism of desire without the baptism of water is sufficient, provided the person in question has the will to receive the baptism of water, but is prevented from doing so before he dies."
St. Alphonsus Liguori, Doctor of the Church (18th century): Moral Theology, Book 6, Section II (About Baptism and Confirmation), Chapter 1 (On Baptism), page 310, no. 96: "Baptism of desire is perfect conversion to God by contrition or love of God above all things accompanied by an explicit or implicit desire for true baptism of water, the place of which it takes as to the remission of guilt, but not as to the impression of the [baptismal] character or as to the removal of all debt of punishment. It is called "of wind" ["flaminis"] because it takes place by the impulse of the Holy Ghost who is called a wind ["flamen"]. Now it is "de fide" that men are also saved by Baptism of desire, by virtue of the Canon Apostolicam, "de presbytero non baptizato" and of the Council of Trent, session 6, Chapter 4 where it is said that no one can be saved 'without the laver of regeneration or the desire for it.'" (Note: Unbelievers can see the original book in Latin here. Turn to page 310 in the book (or page 157 of the PDF file).
Moral Theology, Bk. 6, nn. 95-97: "Baptism of blood is the shedding of one's blood, i.e. death, suffered for the faith or for some other Christian virtue. Now this Baptism is comparable to true baptism because, like true Baptism, it remits both guilt and punishment as it were ex opere operato… Hence martyrdom avails also for infants seeing that the Church venerates the Holy Innocents as true martyrs. That is why Suarez rightly teaches that the opposing view is at least temerarious."
On the Council of Trent, 1846, Pg. 128-129 (Duffy): "Who can deny that the act of perfect love of God, which is sufficient for justification, includes an implicit desire of Baptism, of Penance, and of the Eucharist. He who wishes the whole wishes the every part of that whole and all the means necessary for its attainment. In order to be justified without baptism, an infidel must love God above all things, and must have an universal will to observe all the divine precepts, among which the first is to receive baptism: and therefore in order to be justified it is necessary for him to have at least an implicit desire of that sacrament."
Pope Pius IX (19th century): Quanto Conficiamur Moerore, 1863: “There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace. Because God knows, searches and clearly understands the minds, hearts, thoughts, and nature of all, his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments.”
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@Pattfm That's a good question. I don't know.