As a let a see how many murders have happen at the vatican not including those with the Vatican bank.

You have pope Francis personal secretary Wuolou who was 8 months pregnant. With his baby ha. You have pope john paul 1 murder pope paul 6 murder replaced with a look alike sister Lucia replaced with a look alike. Pius 9 and at least half a dz. Cardinals poisoned. The mob in the vatican bank and lets see what else ????

BrTomFordeofmCrap -- Its clear you haven't a clue to the difference between a true Catholic who adheres to the traditional catholic church in its dogmatic teachings of the saints and fathers of the church it's true mass and sacraments and today's fake mass fake priests fake sacraments and fake catholic church. Our lord is not with them to the end but with and only with the last few who hold to the tradition of His church.
Its clear you never read the holy fathers Encyclicals its clear you are unfamiliar with the word anathema or seduced or " the partisans of error these and other words like them are used over and over again in describing the today's church, the true enemies of the catholic church Pope pius 10 and all his predecessors condemned. By church law everyone in today's church all priests bishops cardinals and at least the last 8 popes are excommunicated and anathema an apostates they are Traders and imposters.

Its clear you never read pius 10 Encyclicals on the doctrine of the modernists or pius 9 syllabus of errors or anything else written by the HOLY FATHERS.

Its also clear you never read anything on the enemies of the church. The Alta Vendita. The 24 protocols of the learned Elders of Zion or the grand orient freemansons unmasked.or the luciferianism philosophy of the mansions or Albert pike book on morals and Dogma.
Sir your argument is embarrassing it shows a profound lack of knowledge. Please for gods sake get up off your lazy ... And read. The broken cross or pope paul 6 beatified...

In defence of those bishops (most of them anyway) this booklet was produced by a committee and when the bishops saw it there was trouble and the offending bits got pulled. Nou dount someone got roasted too.
Josephmary if you think the Church is dead why are you here on a Catholic site? What does that say about your picture of Scripture? " I am with you untilt he end of time" and "the gates of Hell shall not prevail against her"? The Church cannot fail because her Lord cannot fail. Read some Church history there is always some sort of crisis somewhere in the Church and there have been plenty of bad popes, bishops, priests and laity. If you want a perfect Church set up your own.