Pope Francis must be respected! As Catholics we have a duty to follow in King David’s foot steps David Spares Saul's Life in the Cave (24:3-7) "[Saul] came to the sheep pens along the way; a cave was …More
Pope Francis must be respected!
As Catholics we have a duty to follow in King David’s foot steps
David Spares Saul's Life in the Cave (24:3-7)
"[Saul] came to the sheep pens along the way; a cave was there, and Saul went in to relieve himself.[99] David and his men were far back in the cave. 4 The men said, 'This is the day the LORD spoke of when he said to you, "I will give your enemy into your hands for you to deal with as you wish."'" (24:3-4a)
We have no record of such a prophecy prior to this, though it was obviously known to David's men.
David's band is completely silent as David stealthy creeps up to where Saul is probably now resting in the privacy and cool of the cave. Saul's 3,000 men are outside; he is vulnerable.
"Then David crept up unnoticed and cut off a corner of Saul's robe." (24:4b)
David's action has considerable significance. Taking a portion of the royal robe could have been interpreted in that time as a transfer of power from Saul to David. In addition, David's action may have rendered Saul's robe -- Saul's visible sign of kingship -- non-compliant with requirements of the law by removing tassels from its corner (Numbers 14:38-39; Deuteronomy 22:12).
That's why David is "conscience-stricken," since by voiding Saul's claim to kingship in this way, he is moving against "the Lord's anointed." He has to explain this to his men, who are bent on killing Saul when they have this chance. Many of them are under Saul's death sentence, just like David is. The temptation to kill Saul is almost overpowering.
[David] said to his men, 'The LORD forbid that I should do such a thing to my master, the LORD's anointed, or lift my hand against him; for he is the anointed of the LORD.'7 With these words David rebuked his men and did not allow them to attack Saul. And Saul left the cave and went his way." (24:6-7)
If David had indeed killed Saul in the cave, he and his 600 men would have had to face Saul's troops outside the cave. But these troops would have been leaderless -- and many of them realized the validity of David's claim to the throne. Probably David himself had led some of these troops when he had been one of Saul's generals.
Could David have gotten away with killing Saul and claiming the throne? Probably. But David's refusal to attack Saul isn't based on strategic or even moral grounds. It is based on the profound respect that David has for Yahweh -- the fear of the Lord. God, David reasons, has put Saul into the kingship. For David, rebellion against Saul is tantamount to rebellion against the Lord himself who has anointed Saul.
Like Saul, God has anointed Pope Francis and we must not try to kill him or be disobedient!!!
www.jesuswalk.com/david/05_david_spares.htm
As Catholics we have a duty to follow in King David’s foot steps
David Spares Saul's Life in the Cave (24:3-7)
"[Saul] came to the sheep pens along the way; a cave was there, and Saul went in to relieve himself.[99] David and his men were far back in the cave. 4 The men said, 'This is the day the LORD spoke of when he said to you, "I will give your enemy into your hands for you to deal with as you wish."'" (24:3-4a)
We have no record of such a prophecy prior to this, though it was obviously known to David's men.
David's band is completely silent as David stealthy creeps up to where Saul is probably now resting in the privacy and cool of the cave. Saul's 3,000 men are outside; he is vulnerable.
"Then David crept up unnoticed and cut off a corner of Saul's robe." (24:4b)
David's action has considerable significance. Taking a portion of the royal robe could have been interpreted in that time as a transfer of power from Saul to David. In addition, David's action may have rendered Saul's robe -- Saul's visible sign of kingship -- non-compliant with requirements of the law by removing tassels from its corner (Numbers 14:38-39; Deuteronomy 22:12).
That's why David is "conscience-stricken," since by voiding Saul's claim to kingship in this way, he is moving against "the Lord's anointed." He has to explain this to his men, who are bent on killing Saul when they have this chance. Many of them are under Saul's death sentence, just like David is. The temptation to kill Saul is almost overpowering.
[David] said to his men, 'The LORD forbid that I should do such a thing to my master, the LORD's anointed, or lift my hand against him; for he is the anointed of the LORD.'7 With these words David rebuked his men and did not allow them to attack Saul. And Saul left the cave and went his way." (24:6-7)
If David had indeed killed Saul in the cave, he and his 600 men would have had to face Saul's troops outside the cave. But these troops would have been leaderless -- and many of them realized the validity of David's claim to the throne. Probably David himself had led some of these troops when he had been one of Saul's generals.
Could David have gotten away with killing Saul and claiming the throne? Probably. But David's refusal to attack Saul isn't based on strategic or even moral grounds. It is based on the profound respect that David has for Yahweh -- the fear of the Lord. God, David reasons, has put Saul into the kingship. For David, rebellion against Saul is tantamount to rebellion against the Lord himself who has anointed Saul.
Like Saul, God has anointed Pope Francis and we must not try to kill him or be disobedient!!!
www.jesuswalk.com/david/05_david_spares.htm
"Must be respected"?? --- MUST BE REJECTED!!!
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Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed …More
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Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed ones. In the book of Jobe we clearly see the devil asking God for permission to inflick harm on Jobe. Realize that God also has full control of the devil and that even the devil has to ask permission. This is an Catholic Church teaching reality. Nobody knows God’s plan and if God wants pope Francis out of that seat, he can stop his heart at any given time!!!!
Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed ones. In the book of Jobe we clearly see the devil asking God for permission to inflick harm on Jobe. Realize that God also has full control of the devil and that even the devil has to ask permission. This is an Catholic Church teaching reality. Nobody knows God’s plan and if God wants pope Francis out of that seat, he can stop his heart at any given time!!!!
From the moment Francis gave to me and the rest of the world his first lesson by example. He rejected to put on the red shoes, symbolizing he refuses to die for the people, he refused the way, he refused Christ. This means that he refused being a true pope and from everything that followed to me it seemed for a while that he wanted to become a true martyr, when he refused to drive in a bullet free …More
From the moment Francis gave to me and the rest of the world his first lesson by example. He rejected to put on the red shoes, symbolizing he refuses to die for the people, he refused the way, he refused Christ. This means that he refused being a true pope and from everything that followed to me it seemed for a while that he wanted to become a true martyr, when he refused to drive in a bullet free car, I briefly though, he wants to be killed and show off that a martyr is not about red shoes, but about being killed because of what you say and do. Then after a while the power became his master and suddenly in my perception he changed course and it seemed to me that he wanted to become a true charismatic reformer. At that time, days after the election, the ditching of the red shoes was interpreted as humility, and I do believe that Francis wanted to show off being humble and still wants to show that, however the catholic faith is a faith of symbols and parables. It really means that Francis is not aware of what Catholicism is about. He does not realize that the messages that he throws in the ring are strong and work like a wreckingball on the church. But fear not, God is in charge, the vine of the church must probably be pruned by the true husbandman , and the something that remains with roots is the true church, the rest will be burnt up in the fire.
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Why should we respect an apostate and a heretic?
Paul Grech,
Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed …More
Paul Grech,
Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed ones. In the book of Jobe we clearly see the devil asking God for permission to inflick harm on Jobe. Realize that God also has full control of the devil and that even the devil has to ask permission. This is an Catholic Church teaching reality. Nobody knows God’s plan and if God wants pope Francis out of that seat, he can stop his heart at any given time!!!!
Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed ones. In the book of Jobe we clearly see the devil asking God for permission to inflick harm on Jobe. Realize that God also has full control of the devil and that even the devil has to ask permission. This is an Catholic Church teaching reality. Nobody knows God’s plan and if God wants pope Francis out of that seat, he can stop his heart at any given time!!!!
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I agree entirely but it does not mean that I have to respect an apostate and a heretic.
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The people of God want respect from this fool too.
He also should respect ,cardinals that disagree with him when he says or does things that are not in line with scriptures .
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Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed …More
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Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed ones. In the book of Jobe we clearly see the devil asking God for permission to inflick harm on Jobe. Realize that God also has full control of the devil and that even the devil has to ask permission. This is an Catholic Church teaching reality. Nobody knows God’s plan and if God wants pope Francis out of that seat, he can stop his heart at any given time!!!!
Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed ones. In the book of Jobe we clearly see the devil asking God for permission to inflick harm on Jobe. Realize that God also has full control of the devil and that even the devil has to ask permission. This is an Catholic Church teaching reality. Nobody knows God’s plan and if God wants pope Francis out of that seat, he can stop his heart at any given time!!!!
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. …More
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
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We know God is in control, but it is a Catholic's duty to call out those in error, less you forget when St. Paul called out St. Peter when he was in error.
"The declared enemies of God and His Church, heretics and schismatics, must be criticized as much as possible, as long as truth is not denied. It is a work of charity to shout: 'Here is the wolf!' when it enters the flock or anywhere else." St.…More
We know God is in control, but it is a Catholic's duty to call out those in error, less you forget when St. Paul called out St. Peter when he was in error.
"The declared enemies of God and His Church, heretics and schismatics, must be criticized as much as possible, as long as truth is not denied. It is a work of charity to shout: 'Here is the wolf!' when it enters the flock or anywhere else." St. Francis de Sales
"The declared enemies of God and His Church, heretics and schismatics, must be criticized as much as possible, as long as truth is not denied. It is a work of charity to shout: 'Here is the wolf!' when it enters the flock or anywhere else." St. Francis de Sales
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@Lalanz God also allowed many anti-popes. Here's a good website to cure that blindness: www.francisquotes.com
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to …More
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to confession!!!!
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. …More
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
Alex j
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
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@Lalanz Blanket statements don't work here my friend. You're accusing everyone of something you say you read about Francis.
"Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius XMore
@Lalanz Blanket statements don't work here my friend. You're accusing everyone of something you say you read about Francis.
"Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X
"Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X
Are you kidding??? We have a duty to follow a Pope like Francis??? You jest??? If not, then you reveal a total lack of understanding of recent past [ V2] and the past and current dismantling of the "Faith of our Fathers" by Francis and his cronies. Blindly following a heretical Pope results in you becoming part of the problem[s]. The good Lord gave each of us a brain to fathom out, discern if you …More
Are you kidding??? We have a duty to follow a Pope like Francis??? You jest??? If not, then you reveal a total lack of understanding of recent past [ V2] and the past and current dismantling of the "Faith of our Fathers" by Francis and his cronies. Blindly following a heretical Pope results in you becoming part of the problem[s]. The good Lord gave each of us a brain to fathom out, discern if you prefer, within the context of what church tradition and scripture, reveals and teach's [Catholic Catechism] The history of the church includes a number of less than desirable Popes but even they held to the truths and dogmatic teachings of the church. Not so with Frances who has publicly stated his revolutionary aims of "permanently changing" the way we practice and think about our religion. So my fellow catholic, remove the blinkers and join the growing numbers of faithful catholic who have awoken to the apostasy besieging the very fabric of Christs Church.
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to …More
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to confession!!!!
I’m calling out:
Alex j
Mattisixteen24
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. …More
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Alex j
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Jtluzzia
Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
Alex j
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
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Your jesuswalk link is a protestant website. Why are you linking protestant websites here and then telling Catholics we must follow a pope who commits heresy after heresy??!!!
"If a future pope teaches anything contrary to the Catholic Faith, do not follow him."
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Your jesuswalk link is a protestant website. Why are you linking protestant websites here and then telling Catholics we must follow a pope who commits heresy after heresy??!!!
"If a future pope teaches anything contrary to the Catholic Faith, do not follow him."
-Pope Pius IX
"If a future pope teaches anything contrary to the Catholic Faith, do not follow him."
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The -point- is picking certain stories out of the Old Testament that don't even apply and twisting them to fit is a common Protestant rhetoric tactic. I told you this just yesterday Lalanz, when you raised this SAME passage for the SAME reason.
The Pople is not a king, so your story is irrelevant. We may give respect to the office of the Pope in recognitiion of his better and more illustrious …More
The -point- is picking certain stories out of the Old Testament that don't even apply and twisting them to fit is a common Protestant rhetoric tactic. I told you this just yesterday Lalanz, when you raised this SAME passage for the SAME reason.
The Pople is not a king, so your story is irrelevant. We may give respect to the office of the Pope in recognitiion of his better and more illustrious predecessors but we can not and must not follow this one blindly or stay silent "out of respect" when he continues to destroy The Church.
The Pople is not a king, so your story is irrelevant. We may give respect to the office of the Pope in recognitiion of his better and more illustrious predecessors but we can not and must not follow this one blindly or stay silent "out of respect" when he continues to destroy The Church.
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to …More
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to confession!!!!
I’m calling out:
Alex j
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. …More
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Alex j
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
Alex j
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Ave crux
Ultraviolet
Jtluzzia
Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
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Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially …More
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Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed ones. In the book of Jobe we clearly see the devil asking God for permission to inflick harm on Jobe. Realize that God also has full control of the devil and that even the devil has to ask permission. This is an Catholic Church teaching reality. Nobody knows God’s plan and if God wants pope Francis out of that seat, he can stop his heart at any given time!!!!
Look in the mirror and realize that God is controlling the air that flows into your lungs and every single heart beat!!! This is a fact and God can stop your heart from beating at any given moment. You should have a healthy fear of God. So now look at pope Francis and realize that God is sustaining his life along with all life of the planet. God is in control always especially his anointed ones. In the book of Jobe we clearly see the devil asking God for permission to inflick harm on Jobe. Realize that God also has full control of the devil and that even the devil has to ask permission. This is an Catholic Church teaching reality. Nobody knows God’s plan and if God wants pope Francis out of that seat, he can stop his heart at any given time!!!!
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We obey priests, bishops, and the pope in the traditions of the faith. If they breaks tradition of the faith we don't obey them. Christ is head of the Church. Not the pope.
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We obey priests, bishops, and the pope in the traditions of the faith. If they breaks tradition of the faith we don't obey them. Christ is head of the Church. Not the pope.
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You don't know that, Lalanz. Men routinely defy God's Will, which God in His infinite mercy and wisdom allows. God may be "omnipresent", that doesn't mean God is omni-interfering. You seem to have forgotten the entire concept of Free Will.
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to …More
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to confession!!!!
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Alex j
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Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. …More
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Alex j
Mattisixteen24
Ave crux
Ultraviolet
Jtluzzia
Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
Alex j
Mattisixteen24
Ave crux
Ultraviolet
Jtluzzia
Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
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You would fit in just fine with any totalitarin dictatorship, communist or fascist. IYes, secular authority punishes those who refuse to obey. That doesn't change if you are in the moral right or wrong! How many Christian martyrs, past and present, suffered for defying the leaders of their day? If they followed your suggestion, they would obey, even if told to renounce their faith.
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You would fit in just fine with any totalitarin dictatorship, communist or fascist. IYes, secular authority punishes those who refuse to obey. That doesn't change if you are in the moral right or wrong! How many Christian martyrs, past and present, suffered for defying the leaders of their day? If they followed your suggestion, they would obey, even if told to renounce their faith.
When we are faced with an evil leader that is when our faith and our commitment to God are truly tested. The last thing we must do is simply capitulate because "authority is authority".
When we are faced with an evil leader that is when our faith and our commitment to God are truly tested. The last thing we must do is simply capitulate because "authority is authority".
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to …More
You all are failing to realize what it means to be obedient, I never stated that you cannot tell the Pope that he is wrong, that is not what obedience means. It’s about telling someone is wrong, and not disrespecting him or sin while you do it. Most of you having nothing but a bashing fest, even to go as far and call the pope a “homo” that is a sin, no matter how you try and justify it!!! Go to confession!!!!
I’m calling out:
Alex j
Mattisixteen24
Ave crux
Ultraviolet
Jtluzzia
Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. …More
I’m calling out:
Alex j
Mattisixteen24
Ave crux
Ultraviolet
Jtluzzia
Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!
Alex j
Mattisixteen24
Ave crux
Ultraviolet
Jtluzzia
Why can’t you fools realize that God is always in control, even if the pope is crooked, who do you think is keeping him still as the head. The same person keeping your hearts beating. His name is God the father, and if God the father decides to allow the church to experience a bad pope for 20 years, that’s his call not yours. All through out the Bible God uses bad to bring out good, so shut up and stop bashing the pope!!! Get on your knees and say a rosery over it, like a true catholic!!! Padre Pio was a great example, the local church authorities in his time, did not allow him to practice as a priest because they thought he was fake. He did not say one bad thing about them!!! He just understood that God is always in control!!! Look that fact up!!!!