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Bishop Schneider: "Don't Worry Too Much About Singular Appointments of Leo XIV"

On 5 June, the Estudio de Latín YouTube channel published an interview with Bishop Athanasius Schneider. Main points, shortened and slightly summarised for clarity.

- On the Roman Rite: "I call this liturgy traditional, perennial and continuous. It is the liturgy of the Church. It is persecuted today, but it cannot be destroyed because the Holy Spirit has been at work in it for so many centuries, even millennia. I hope that Pope Leo XIV will restore the freedom of the traditional liturgy and prevent bishops from limiting its use. Pope Leo XIV, at least as a child, knew this Mass because he was born in 1955."

- On the "blessing" of homosexuals: "'Fiducia supplicans' s an abomination and a huge sophism. Pope Leo XIV should have the courage, clarity and charity to retract the document. The homosexual lifestyle is against nature. Out of love for homosexuals, we cannot bless and confirm them in sin, thereby risking their eternal damnation. It is sad that humanity has reached the point of celebrating sin and abomination."

- On Leo XIV’s statements that Francis is praying for us from heaven: "Francis is most likely in Purgatory and not yet in Heaven, because of his gravely problematic actions. Popes and bishops should not speak imprudently in a way that de facto canonises the deceased, thus almost undermining the reality of Purgatory."

- On Leo XIV’s appointment of another nun as secretary in the already nun-led Dicastery for Religious: "These are singular acts of the Pontiff. We shouldn't worry too much. He is the Pope, and we should pray for him. In a world where information spreads instantly, we ought to leave such matters to divine providence. However, more concerning is the fact that Pope Francis appointed a nun as a prefect — I believe that is more serious."

- On the Second Vatican Council: "The Council contained no heresies, but some statements were objectively erroneous or ambiguous. Most affirmations aligned with tradition, but we must distinguish between three types: those in full continuity, those open to interpretation, and a few that cannot be reconciled with tradition. The Council was not dogmatic; as Pope Paul VI stated, its purpose was pastoral, not doctrinal."

- Whether a pope could be invalid / lose his office: "If he is elected and recognised by most cardinals and bishops, he is the true pope and remains so unless he freely resigns. Errors in teachings that are not ex cathedra do not invalidate his office. Church history confirms this, as with Popes Honorius I and John XXII. We must follow the Church’s enduring practice, not the theological opinions of individuals, even saints such as Robert Bellarmine and Francis de Sales, as these do not define the Magisterium."

– Whether priests may celebrate the Roman Rite without permission: "They may do so privately and in good conscience, even without a bishop’s approval. The traditional liturgy belongs to the whole Church and cannot be forbidden - it predates Trent and has been handed down for over a thousand years. Any prohibition is an abuse of authority. While avoiding direct conflict is wise, discreet celebration is permissible."

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CatMuse

Ambiguity is not pastoral. If the documents were ambiguous then the council fails to be pastoral. The highest form of pastoral care is surely doctrinal clarity.

Simon North

Bravo! Well said. The documents had but one purpose: to lay the foundations of the Modernist Revolution in the midst of which we live.

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Jeffrey Ade

Why worry, be happy!

Jeffrey Ade

@Prunella Von Rhine He is what he is! God bless you!

foward

Don't worry, be happy.

foward

No, Schneider. John XII was forced to rectify what he had said, and he did.

DJRESQ

@foward John XII? John XII was probably the most immoral of all the popes, but what did he rectify? Do you mean John XXII?

foward

Yes, John XXII, sorry

Starlight777

When I think about Pope Francis and the fate of his soul, I remember that right after he was released from the hospital, he went through the holy door. The holy door that in a jubilee year is part of the plenary indulgence. Maybe it was that act that spared him from the fires of hell

Starlight777

Published: Apr. 6, 2025 at 2:59 AM PDT|Updated: Apr. 6, 2025 at 1:06 PM PDT
VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis made a surprise entrance to St. Peter’s Square during a special Jubilee Mass for the sick and health workers on Sunday, marking his first public appearance at the Vatican since leaving t he hospital two weeks ago after a life-threatening bout with pneumonia.
The pontiff waved at the crowd of faithful that stood and applauded as he was pushed in a wheelchair unannounced to the front of the altar in the square. Some exclaimed, “I see the pope!‘’ as his image first emerged on a big screen showing him passing through the Holy Door before being brought down a ramp to the altar.
“Good Sunday to everyone,‘’ Francis said, speaking into a microphone, which he tapped to make sure it was working on a second attempt. “Thank you very much.”

Tony M

I'm with Archbishop Vigano,,,,,not Bishop Schneider. Archbishop Vigano towers over Schneider in every way.

SonoftheChurch

....except in holiness and obedience.

Tony M

Your opinion...not mine!!

la verdad prevalece

Furthermore, the heresiarch and gay activist Jorge Bergoglio died in final impenitence, defying God's Natural Law and Catholic morality. And the Church teaches that anyone who dies in mortal sin is damned.

la verdad prevalece

Bergoglio died unrepentant, committing the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and leading many to rebel against God's laws, confirming them in their stubbornness in the grave sin of sodomy.

la verdad prevalece

Bergoglio, even after his death, drags …

la verdad prevalece

Bishop Schneider refuses to acknowledge that the Magisterium has decreed in perpetuity that the election of a heretic is invalid and null, regardless of whether said election was made by a majority of the cardinals. Does he not know that heretics are not part of the mystical body of Christ, and therefore, one who is not a member cannot be its head?

Simon North

+Schneider is absolutely correct that Francis' appointment of a nun as prefect is most serious. What he fails to say is (1) the reason why it is so serious (the act signals the separation of governance from Holy Orders); (2) that Leo's appointment of a woman religious as the #2 to the prefect signals Leo's agreement with Francis.

Sean Johnson

And of course, by appointing those to offices without standing to accept them, all their acts are invalid.

P. O'B

So much here -- just the title: "Don't Worry Too Much About Singular Appointments of Leo XIV." Heck, if it's the new bishop we'll be getting here in a few months, I'll be plenty worried.

Orthocat

His excellency is only practicing the Vatican virtue of romanitas - where any criticism is couched in soothing, respectful language. Us blunt Americans demand calling "a spade, a spade" (it's why many admire Trump), but it's not the Roman way - I know it's infuriating at times.

Sean Johnson

“Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”
-The Wizard of Oz

Boanerges Boanerges

"Francis is most likely in Purgatory and not yet in Heaven" - Wow! Shocking! Then Schneider must also think that Hell is empty or that very few people end there. Contrary to this Our Lord teaches: "Broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction" and "many are called but few are chosen"

Sean Johnson

On what basis does Schneider make this gratuitous proclamation? The PACHAMAMA incident alone was damnable, and far from repenting of it, Francis fished it out of the Tiber and placed it back where it was.

Sean Johnson

Dead wrong: nobody is to presume the salvation or damnation of anyone. For Schneider to do so is not only presumptuous, but given Francis showed no signs of sanctity, was a public heretic, and flouted even natural and moral law, highly suspect. Instead, all I see in this proclamation by Schneider is more acclimating the conciliar “faithful” for the future acceptance of St. Francis the Great (the gorge rises at the thought). Perhaps one could excuse such presumptive enthusiasm were the man known for great sanctity, as in a Padre Pio, but not in this one. Schneider has tipped his cards again as the conservative good cop.

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Sean Johnson

Firstly, “gravely problematic actions” land one in hell, not purgatory.
Secondly, it is Schneider himself speaking disingenuously by modernist equivocation, declaring in breath that bishops should not “speak imprudently in a way that canonizes the deceased,” yet he himself proclaims Francis likely in purgatory, and therefore saved.

Boanerges Boanerges

@Patricia When Prevost says (3 times) that Bergoglio is in Heaven he is signaling to the faithful that they have to follow the path of the false prophet Bergoglio if they want to attain salvation. That is diabolical trickery, the truth is: if they follow Bergoglio's teaching they will end up in Hell! The mission of the Church is to lead souls to salvation. By saying this Prevost works against this mission, and Schneider is saying the same as Prevost, just in a milder form.

Boanerges Boanerges

Patricia, labeling and blocking your brothers is neither mature nor Christian

Simon North

@Patricia McKeever While understanding your point (basically warning about presumption regarding the fate of any soul), your statement that the Church has "forbidden to pronounce anyone to be in hell," is not exactly true. Dante placed Nicholas III in hell (and anticipated that Boniface VIII would be), and while being criticized here and there at the time, the Church has never condemned his opinion.

Simon North

@Patricia McKeever I pray that, after these times of chaos within which Our Lord has asked us to live and achieve our salvation, that you, me and everyone on this board is able to see Him face to face. We fight amongst ourselves because we care. During the Arian heresy, we were burning down each other's churches.

I commend His Excellency, Bishop Schnieder for his orthodoxy.

Sean Johnson

+Schneider: My job is to calm you all down, and keep you on board with the conciliar church. Therefore, my task is to dismiss, downplay, or deny your concerns in order that the destruction of the church continues. The only thing I cannot tolerate is sedevacantism, as it’s the only pathway toward restoration of the religion we are supplanting. We must fight it!
“But Your Excellency, they’re worshipping demons and blessing homosexuality in the Vatican.”
+Schneider: Never mind all that. Don’t be deceived by the sedevacantists!

SonoftheChurch

@Sean Johnson It is so sad that you do not realize your own condition and the ultimate fate that awaits you. Nor do you understand that the dire eternal consequences of unrepentant sedevacantism is the same as that of “worshiping demons and blessing homosexuality.”

Sean Johnson

@Son:
This response betrays opinions derived from emotion-based indoctrination rather than theological study. Your inability to formulate your position doctrinally proves it.

Mike the Pike

@Sean Johnson Perhaps you should read the article again, or one of Bishop Schneider's books. You appear to understand just the opposite of what Bishop Schneider says. For example, the article says, "On the "blessing" of homosexuals: "'Fiducia supplicans' s an abomination and a huge sophism. "

Sean Johnson

…yet he believes his pope has normalized this practice for the universal church.

SonoftheChurch

Such truth! Thank you again, Your Excellency, for your steadfast defense of the Faith and undaunted commitment to proclaiming the TRUTH. We applaud and esteem you highly for your deep and undiminished devotion to Holy Mother Church. May Christ sustain you, and may all of Heaven protect you and keep you safe.