Cardinal Admits: A "DIFFERENT Church" Is Emerging From Synod
A "different church" is emerging from the synod process, Cardinal Mario Grech, secretary general of the Vatican synod, revealed to AmericaMagazine.org (21 September). He had spoken to Francis after …More
A "different church" is emerging from the synod process, Cardinal Mario Grech, secretary general of the Vatican synod, revealed to AmericaMagazine.org (21 September).
He had spoken to Francis after the Amazon Synod about married priests, Grech said. Francis replied, "Do you know why I did not accept this proposal? Because I felt that there was no discernment during the synodal assembly."
At the time, however, Benedict XVI also intervened and defended celibacy. Asked if Francis' response was "not a rejection", Grech replied, “We need time!"
Picture: Mario Grech, © wikicommons, CC BY-SA, #newsJrtgngwrth
He had spoken to Francis after the Amazon Synod about married priests, Grech said. Francis replied, "Do you know why I did not accept this proposal? Because I felt that there was no discernment during the synodal assembly."
At the time, however, Benedict XVI also intervened and defended celibacy. Asked if Francis' response was "not a rejection", Grech replied, “We need time!"
Picture: Mario Grech, © wikicommons, CC BY-SA, #newsJrtgngwrth
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Cardinal Grech already at Synod Presser (August 26): “To understand the Synodal Process one must think of a fruitful circularity of prophecy and discernment. If all are prophets in the people of God, not all said is the voice of the Spirit. One must find in many voices the voice of the Spirit”
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"A "different church" is emerging from the synod process," So, does he agree with that, or not?
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It's actually great that Grech is doing this. He was recently touted as a compromise candidate.
On the Far Right (orthodoxy) we had Sarah and Erdo (possibly Ranjith), on the centre-right Ouellet (who was likely taken out by an accusation that Francis and his circle mishandled thereby damaging Francis), Grech as the compromise candidate, a former Conservative turned Francis lackey, Zuppi as centre-…More
It's actually great that Grech is doing this. He was recently touted as a compromise candidate.
On the Far Right (orthodoxy) we had Sarah and Erdo (possibly Ranjith), on the centre-right Ouellet (who was likely taken out by an accusation that Francis and his circle mishandled thereby damaging Francis), Grech as the compromise candidate, a former Conservative turned Francis lackey, Zuppi as centre-left, Tagle as Francis 2.0.
For some reason, Grech recently decided he doesn't want to be the compromise candidate but he wants to be more radical than Zuppi. So he defended the German synodal path, attacked its countless critics (including several cardinal electors) and is now doubling down.
I guess he'll be competing with Tagle.
Batzing though indicated not too long ago that he knows that Francis doesn't support changes on celibacy or the ordination of women and that it won't happen in the next couple of years. Grech seems to be trying to suggest and opening. But like he says, they need time, and how much time does Francis have?
With Ouellet gone on the centre-right and Grech no longer a compeomise but a competitor of Tagle, we also have Zuppi's scandal of allowing a clandestine gay blessing and then drew more attention to it and damaged his own credibility by blatantly lying about it. Worse, the Flemish bishops have made this even more of a hot button issue.
So the choices for the cardinals seem to be either various shades of competing radicals Bergoglionists or Erdo, Sarah or Ranjith.
With Francis recently trying to control the recent consistory and criticisms against his curia reforms, of which the exact scope and meaning is still debated, and whether it contradicts the Second Vatican Council being an issue, along with confusion and uncertainty regarding what synodality means, backlash to Francis' foreign policies, the scandals involving Becciu...
It would seem that cardinals would favour a return to normalcy, specifically the ones from Africa and Asia appointed by Francis, who might feel ignored during yet another Francis synod.
On the Far Right (orthodoxy) we had Sarah and Erdo (possibly Ranjith), on the centre-right Ouellet (who was likely taken out by an accusation that Francis and his circle mishandled thereby damaging Francis), Grech as the compromise candidate, a former Conservative turned Francis lackey, Zuppi as centre-left, Tagle as Francis 2.0.
For some reason, Grech recently decided he doesn't want to be the compromise candidate but he wants to be more radical than Zuppi. So he defended the German synodal path, attacked its countless critics (including several cardinal electors) and is now doubling down.
I guess he'll be competing with Tagle.
Batzing though indicated not too long ago that he knows that Francis doesn't support changes on celibacy or the ordination of women and that it won't happen in the next couple of years. Grech seems to be trying to suggest and opening. But like he says, they need time, and how much time does Francis have?
With Ouellet gone on the centre-right and Grech no longer a compeomise but a competitor of Tagle, we also have Zuppi's scandal of allowing a clandestine gay blessing and then drew more attention to it and damaged his own credibility by blatantly lying about it. Worse, the Flemish bishops have made this even more of a hot button issue.
So the choices for the cardinals seem to be either various shades of competing radicals Bergoglionists or Erdo, Sarah or Ranjith.
With Francis recently trying to control the recent consistory and criticisms against his curia reforms, of which the exact scope and meaning is still debated, and whether it contradicts the Second Vatican Council being an issue, along with confusion and uncertainty regarding what synodality means, backlash to Francis' foreign policies, the scandals involving Becciu...
It would seem that cardinals would favour a return to normalcy, specifically the ones from Africa and Asia appointed by Francis, who might feel ignored during yet another Francis synod.