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Despite Leo XIV' Claim: Differences Between Roman Rite and Novus Ordo Significant

In a recent interview with CruxNow.com, Pope Leo XIV claimed that priests are permitted to celebrate the Novus Ordo in Latin.

However, on 19 September, Joseph Shaw, president of Una Voce International, told TheCatholicHerald.com that such Latin Eucharists remain rare and face restrictions in US dioceses such as Charlotte and Detroit.

He added that Catholics attached to the Roman rite would reject a Latin Novus Ordo 'despite the Holy Father suggesting that there is little difference between the two liturgical 'experiences'' .

Shaw explained that the differences between the rites are significant.

The Latin Mass features a whispered canon, a distinct balance between the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist, and a more limited selection of texts. It also features ceremonial rituals absent from the Novus Ordo.

Furthermore, he pointed out some practical differences. For example, the priest faces the congregation, there are female servers and lay readers, and the Latin texts in the Novus Ordo are difficult to sing.

Shaw concluded that these distinctions shape the atmosphere of the Mass.

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DefendTruth

Yes, the Traditional Mass is better. Anything traditional is better than a committee-made, historically inaccurate, banal and ugly product of the 1960s.

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K R Ross

Created in an office vs Tradition: easy choice!

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Ann Smith

The NO ordo Mass in Latin.. yeah, just remove the clowns and and maybe the Protestant music. Please

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mccallansteve

For me, it's the traditional Mass or nothing

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Father Karl A Claver

The NO prayers are watered down. For the October 7th feast of the Holy Rosary, the ROSARY is NEVER mentioned. And that is just the tip of the tiara.

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Lionel Leslie Andrades

At the Latin Mass Joseph Shaw interprets Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church irrationally and not rationally. He interprets the baptism of desire also irrationally and not radionally. This influeces the understanding of the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed. This is a rupture with Tradition. It is schism.There inever is a comment on this subject from Una Voce all these years. Since Una Voce is aligned with the liberal English bishops who offer the Novus Ordo Mass.

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K R Ross

For the pope, attachment to the TLM is not a question of orthodoxy nor Tradition. It is merely a question of sentimentality which is the essence of the modernist heresy; a question not of substance but of passing phenomenon. Fundamentally, his perspective is not Catholic.

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Ivan Tomas

In fact, the perspective of a great number of clergy is anything but Catholic.

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Lionel Leslie Andrades

The Latin Mas offered by Una Voce and the Latin Mass Society in Britain is not the same as the Latin Mass of the 16th century. The rubrics are there but salvation theology and ecclesiology are different. The Roman Missal has the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology which is not there at the Novus Ordo Mass and is not there at the Latin Mass for the SSPX etc , who are Cushingite and not Feeneyite.

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Mike the Pike

The Bergoglian is being willfully ignorant. The new pope knows there is a vast difference. Leon is stalling (or stonewalling the issue).

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Lionel Leslie Andrades

SCHISM AT THE LATIN MASS :
1. Cardinal Raymond Burke offers the Latin Mass while interpreting the baptism of desire as an exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus of the Council of Florence 1442. So he assumes invisible cases of the baptism of desire are visible exceptions for the dogma EENS, defined by three Church Councils. They did not mention any exceptions.
For me invisble cases of the baptism of desire are known only to God. They are not viisible exceptions for the dogma EENS, an 'infallible teaching'.So for me Lumen Gentium 14 ( the baptism of desire ) has a continuity with the dogma EENS. It is not a rupture. But for Cardinal Raymond Burke it is a rupture. He accepts the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston. It said heretically that it is not always necessart to be a members of the Church for salvation implying that there were known cases of the baptism of desire in 1949.
So Cardinal Burke is in schism with the dogma EENS. I am not.
2. The Latin Mass of Una Voce and the SSPX also projects LG 14 and LG 16 as an exception for the Athanasius Creed which says all need to be Catholic for salvation.All. For them there are exceptions. This is a rupture with the Athanasius Creed. I avoid this error. They are in schism. We do not have unity on the Creeds and the Councils at the Latin Mass too.
3. Similarly the interpretation of the Catechisms is schismatic at the Latin Mass. The Latin Mass today does not have the same theology as the Latin Mass of the Jesuits in the 16th century. The interpretation of the Catechisms by the popes, cardinals and bishops at the Novus Ordo Mass too is schismatic.
In general when a false premise ( invisible people are visible ) is used there is schism. This is true for the Syro Malabar Rite, the Melkite Greek Rite, the Novus Ordo and Latin Mass.- Lionel Andrades

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K R Ross

Lipstick on a pig

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