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Marie Madeleine
"How confident you all are! What pride in man! If Jesus had wanted to make us die cursed, He would have not taken us out of desolation! " Do not judge others self-righeously - Love one another as He loved us!
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SOME HOURS AFTER HE ANNOUNCED HIS RESIGNATION
(Luke 10 :18) ...I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning.
Link: Bolt from the blue: Lightning strikes …More
"How confident you all are! What pride in man! If Jesus had wanted to make us die cursed, He would have not taken us out of desolation! " Do not judge others self-righeously - Love one another as He loved us!
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SOME HOURS AFTER HE ANNOUNCED HIS RESIGNATION
(Luke 10 :18) ...I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning.

Link: Bolt from the blue: Lightning strikes St Peter's Basilica in Rome after Pope's resignation

(Mt 10 :29) Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father's care.

Link: Pope's peace doves attacked by crow and seagull

The Mystery behind the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI

Link: The Mystery behind The Resignation of Pope Benedict XVI

There cannot be 2 Popes, indeed, only that right now we are witnessing one true Pope (Benedict XVI) and one false Pope (Bergoglio is the False Prophet, the second beast having "two horns as a lamb") -- One cannot say of St. Francis of Assisi that he did not know how to speak intelligently, or he lied to his brothers on such important messages. Here is a part of what he said to his brother before dying. : "very few among Christians will want to obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with a sincere heart and perfect charity. At the decisive moment of this crisis, an uncanonically elected personage, elevated to the Papacy, will skillfully endeavor to communicate to many the deadly poison of his error"
Ultraviolet
Benedict said he resigned of his own free will. Burden of proof is on the person who claims he didn't. That's you, Jimmy, no matter which sock-puppet account you're running.
-"What can be proven legally is that he violated Canon law 188 and 332.2"
Like always you make the claim, refer to Canon Law, but you never show that it supports your claim... because it doesn't. Standard Jimmy-Logic. It never …More
Benedict said he resigned of his own free will. Burden of proof is on the person who claims he didn't. That's you, Jimmy, no matter which sock-puppet account you're running.

-"What can be proven legally is that he violated Canon law 188 and 332.2"

Like always you make the claim, refer to Canon Law, but you never show that it supports your claim... because it doesn't. Standard Jimmy-Logic. It never changes no matter which account you use.

-"He resigned the "ministry" of the office, but the law makes clear he has to resign the office."

New account, same old Jimmy-Fantasies back when you were "Zechariah". Already debunked here two years ago.

Benedict publicly declared: "I no longer bear the power of office for the governance of the Church,.."

Citation: (Transcript of Benedict XVI's Last General Audience Vatican Website)

Benedict has also said, "Francis has a strong presence. Much stronger that I could ever have with my physical and mental weaknesses," he observed. "To remain in my office would not have been honest."

Citation: (Tekton Ministries article: "Ratzinger’s Request: Simply call me ‘Father Benedict’ ")

Benedict explicitly used the term "office" in reference to the papacy and his renunciation of it, both during his resignation and afterwards. This shows conistency in Benedict's statements and in Benedict's understanding of the papacy as an "office". He referred to it as such and he renounced it as such.

"but the law makes clear he has to resign the office. "

It says no such thing and that's why you never quote the law as I do. :D Canon Law 332 §2 states (verbatim) , "it is required for validity that the resignation is made freely and properly manifested"

Those are the only two requirements for a valid resignation. It does not say he must define the papacy as an office (or as anything else) while resigning from it.

-"Which he did not do."

How's that quote from his last general audience working out for you, Jimbo/ Les/ Mason/ Zapp? :D

-"You can point to what he may have said later about how he really did resign, but his official resignation is erroneous."

Wrong. Benedict resigned in full accordance with Canon Law 332.2. He made his resignation 1.) freely and 2.) properly manifested it in public, both in print and in word. There are no other criteria for an "official resignation" in Canon Law, except for what I just got through citing. If you feel otherwise, it's time you start quoting it word for word instead of just re-writing it with a coating of your "Jimmies".

I point to what he said after he resigned to counter your endlessly repeated, always-unsupported falsehood that he was coerced to resign, under pressure to resign, etc.

Benedict resigned validly and he contradicts your claim about his motive. Go away, Jimmy/ Les/ Mason/ Zapp. It's all the same old claims, the same old rhetoric, the same lack of proof, and that doesn't change no matter which account you're hiding behind.
Mason Trevalho
@Ultraviolet We don't know if he resigned "of his own free will" or not. That is impossible to prove. What can be proven legally is that he violated Canon law 188 and 332.2 . He resigned the "ministry" of the office, but the law makes clear he has to resign the office. Which he did not do. This is substantial error, and thus he is still pope. You can point to what he may have said later about how …More
@Ultraviolet We don't know if he resigned "of his own free will" or not. That is impossible to prove. What can be proven legally is that he violated Canon law 188 and 332.2 . He resigned the "ministry" of the office, but the law makes clear he has to resign the office. Which he did not do. This is substantial error, and thus he is still pope. You can point to what he may have said later about how he really did resign, but his official resignation is erroneous. There cannot be 2 popes, partial popes, an expanded ministry, etc. Lots of smart people do lots of dumb things, especially if they're under pressure.
Ultraviolet
INB4 "Zapp Rowsdowner" defends "Mason Trevalho" when they both have the same writing style as the now-banned "Les Crispi".
Jeffrey Ade
You guys are so funny!:)
Ultraviolet
Benedict resigned of his own free will. Are you calling the man a liar, Stronzo Santelli? I speak the truth & I do it for free. Still waiting for proof you're "priest", too. ;-)
Louis IX
I like the real Crucifix Papa Benedict has opposed to that weird shepherd thing with the backwards foot I’ve seen on many bishops.
Angelo Santelli
Blackmailed out of his chair-- everyone knows this except you, ultradarkness. WHO PAYS YOU TO POST YOUR FILTH?
Alex A
Angelo Santelli - Where exactly is the 'filth' that you attribute to
Ultraviolet's comments?More
Angelo Santelli - Where exactly is the 'filth' that you attribute to

Ultraviolet's comments?
Ultraviolet
So you're part of the 10% of trolls who aren't paid.... right, @Steve D? Or are you on Stormfront's payroll? Did they assign you to GTV to make "converts"? Probably not, you're not good enough for that. Being an obnoxious anti-Catholic bigot isn't a job for you, it's just an illness. :P
Ultraviolet
Did E. Michael Jones teach you that or Dr. Phil? :D
Ultraviolet
He hasn't been Pope Benedict XVI for seven years now, even by his own admission.
Zapp Rowsdower
It has now become clear the Joseph Ratzinger was told by a group of homosexual Cardinals calling themselves the “St. Gallen Mafia”, led by Cardinal Carlo Martini, that he would be permitted to elected pope, but that if he was still alive after eight years, that he would then resign, and if he didn’t resign that he would be forced out, likely with threats of blackmail.
Zapp Rowsdower
Pope Benedict’s resignation was invalid, and obviously so. To argue otherwise requires the willful suspension of disbelief.
Canon 188 states:
A resignation made out of grave fear that is inflicted unjustly or out of malice, substantial error, or simony is invalid by the law itself.More
Pope Benedict’s resignation was invalid, and obviously so. To argue otherwise requires the willful suspension of disbelief.

Canon 188 states:

A resignation made out of grave fear that is inflicted unjustly or out of malice, substantial error, or simony is invalid by the law itself.
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Zapp Rowsdower
Pope Benedict believed that he could fundamentally transform the office of the papacy into a collegial or synodal office by “partially resigning”. He believes that he has abdicated the “active” aspect of the Petrine Office, but retains the “contemplative” aspect.
Zapp Rowsdower
Secondarily, we now know that the homosexualist St. Gallen Mafia instilled grave fear in Ratzinger, which was certainly unjust and obviously malicious. Upon his election in 2005, one of the first things Pope Benedict said was “Pray for me that I do not flee for FEAR of the wolves.”
Zapp Rowsdower
Because The Church has been so thoroughly infiltrated by homosexuals, EVERY PRELATE without exception could be linked to homosexual priests under his jurisdiction. I think it is safe to say that every churchman is now one degree of separation from a sodomite, and thus every churchman COULD be accused of sins of omission, namely, “Why didn’t you say or do anything about…”. Sodomites are, by definition …More
Because The Church has been so thoroughly infiltrated by homosexuals, EVERY PRELATE without exception could be linked to homosexual priests under his jurisdiction. I think it is safe to say that every churchman is now one degree of separation from a sodomite, and thus every churchman COULD be accused of sins of omission, namely, “Why didn’t you say or do anything about…”. Sodomites are, by definition, ruthless
Zapp Rowsdower
Pope Benedict chose to retain the title of “Pope”. Because the Petrine Office was instituted by Jesus Christ Himself, it cannot be changed, altered, modified, transformed or evolved in any way – not even by The Pope himself. There is no such thing as a “Pope Emeritus”, and just because a retired bishop can be called “Bishop Emeritus” this has NO BEARING on whether there can be a “pope emeritus …More
Pope Benedict chose to retain the title of “Pope”. Because the Petrine Office was instituted by Jesus Christ Himself, it cannot be changed, altered, modified, transformed or evolved in any way – not even by The Pope himself. There is no such thing as a “Pope Emeritus”, and just because a retired bishop can be called “Bishop Emeritus” this has NO BEARING on whether there can be a “pope emeritus” because of the singularity and supernatural character of the Papacy. A bishop is not the Vicar of Christ. The papacy is unique and singular and has never, does never and will never provide for an “emeritus”. There can only be one living pope at a time, and since Pope Benedict’s resignation was made in substantial error, and in fear unjustly and maliciously inflicted upon him, his resignation was invalid, he never ceased to be The Pope, and he retains the fullness of the Petrine Office until he either dies, or resigns in accord with the law, which at this point is simply impossible.
Zapp Rowsdower
@Mathathias Maccabeus sometimes you can club people over the head with facts but they still will not listen I suspect UV is pretty dense.
Ultraviolet
-"It has now become clear the Joseph Ratzinger was told by a group of homosexual Cardinals..."
No, Jimmy/ Les Crispi/ Mason Trevalho... it hasn't "become clear" at all, Sock-puppets won't help you. your writing style gives you away, every time. So does your style of argument. Claims of conspiracy and back-room deals require proof. You have supplied nothing.
-"Pope Benedict’s resignation was invalid …More
-"It has now become clear the Joseph Ratzinger was told by a group of homosexual Cardinals..."

No, Jimmy/ Les Crispi/ Mason Trevalho... it hasn't "become clear" at all, Sock-puppets won't help you. your writing style gives you away, every time. So does your style of argument. Claims of conspiracy and back-room deals require proof. You have supplied nothing.

-"Pope Benedict’s resignation was invalid, and obviously so. To argue otherwise requires the willful suspension of disbelief."

(because I say it does), right Jimmy/ Les Crispi/ Mason Trevalho? Simply put, your argument isn't right simply because you claim any other is difficult to believe. Pic related.
Ultraviolet
-"Canon 188 states: A resignation made out of grave fear that is inflicted unjustly or out of malice, substantial error, or simony is invalid by the law itself."
None of which applies here. Benedict has repeatedly said he resigned of his own free will. You have presented no evidence showing otherwise. Your argument is based on implying Benedict is a liar with no proof showing it.
-"Pope Benedict …More
-"Canon 188 states: A resignation made out of grave fear that is inflicted unjustly or out of malice, substantial error, or simony is invalid by the law itself."

None of which applies here. Benedict has repeatedly said he resigned of his own free will. You have presented no evidence showing otherwise. Your argument is based on implying Benedict is a liar with no proof showing it.

-"Pope Benedict believed that he could fundamentally transform the office of the papacy into a collegial or synodal office by "partially resigning".

You don't know what Benedict believed because you aren't a mind-reader, Jimmy/ Les Crispi/ Mason Trevalho.... BXVI never spoke of transforming the office of the Papacy into anything "collegial or synodal". Prove me wrong by quoting him where he did so.

"He believes that he has abdicated ..."

He didn't abdicate... he resigned. Learn the difference before you try your online-psychic gimmick pretending to know what "he believes"
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Ultraviolet
-"Secondarily, we now know that the homosexualist St. Gallen Mafia instilled grave fear in Ratzinger...
Secondlly "we" don't know that "now" or "then" You don't "know" it either. You beleive it but you have zero evidence for your beliefs. Benedict said he resigned of his own free will, so what you're doing here is implying Benedict lied. His "fear of wolves" comment is so ambiguous it could apply …More
-"Secondarily, we now know that the homosexualist St. Gallen Mafia instilled grave fear in Ratzinger...

Secondlly "we" don't know that "now" or "then" You don't "know" it either. You beleive it but you have zero evidence for your beliefs. Benedict said he resigned of his own free will, so what you're doing here is implying Benedict lied. His "fear of wolves" comment is so ambiguous it could apply to any number of spiritual concerns as well.

"I think it is safe to say that every churchman is now one degree of separation from a sodomite..."

I'm sure YOU do think that. However, you don't have any proof for what YOU think it's safe to say, any more than you have proof for any of your other silliness here.

"Pope Benedict chose to retain the title of "Pope"..."

Directly contradicted by the man himself. He prefers to be called Father Benedict See my link above.

"There is no such thing as a "Pope Emeritus"...

...and as I've told you dozen times already Jimmy... Benedict isn't repsonsible for what other people call him. He repudiated THAT title as well in the link above. The Church didn't appoint Benedict "Pope Emeritus", either. Prove otherwise. Link the appointment as "Pope Emeritus". Link Benedict bestowing the title upon himself. The title is something the media created. Even then the term "Emeritus" is a title referring to someone who no longer holds an office. So Benedict isn't pope, even according to that term.
Ultraviolet
"There can only be one living pope at a time, and since Pope Benedict’s resignation was made in substantial error..."
Zero evidence shown. Benedict resigned the Papacy. Also Canon Law 188 doesn't define what counts as "substantial" error. Benedict-Buddies don't get to define it FOR The Church, either.
" and in fear unjustly and maliciously inflicted upon him "
Benedict wasn't "in fear" and his …More
"There can only be one living pope at a time, and since Pope Benedict’s resignation was made in substantial error..."

Zero evidence shown. Benedict resigned the Papacy. Also Canon Law 188 doesn't define what counts as "substantial" error. Benedict-Buddies don't get to define it FOR The Church, either.

" and in fear unjustly and maliciously inflicted upon him "

Benedict wasn't "in fear" and his claims he resigned of his own free will count more than your unsupported claims to the contrary. ;-)
Ultraviolet
"sometimes you can club people over the head with facts but they still will not listen "
The irony of that coming from you, Mistuh Yerian. :P
The fact is you haven't supplied any facts for any of your claims. All you've supplied are passive-voice sentences presenting your opinion as fact. . e.g. "it has now become clear"... A few adjectives like "obviously" to do the same.
That, and your old …More
"sometimes you can club people over the head with facts but they still will not listen "

The irony of that coming from you, Mistuh Yerian. :P

The fact is you haven't supplied any facts for any of your claims. All you've supplied are passive-voice sentences presenting your opinion as fact. . e.g. "it has now become clear"... A few adjectives like "obviously" to do the same.

That, and your old psychic gimmick where you pretend to read Benedict's mind about what he "believes".