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Jerusalem Bishop: Israel Must Affirm Palestinian Right to Exist

Jerusalem’s Auxiliary Bishop Rafic Nahra, 64, told AsiaNews.it (October 10) that the Israeli regime will be without “security” as long as it pretends that the five million Palestinians “do not exist …More
Jerusalem’s Auxiliary Bishop Rafic Nahra, 64, told AsiaNews.it (October 10) that the Israeli regime will be without “security” as long as it pretends that the five million Palestinians “do not exist”, as the regime's finance minister, among others, recently did.
Peace in the Holy Land cannot ignore justice, law, and mutual recognition of the right to exist, he said.
The Palestinians "cannot be ignored". From the illegal Jewish settlements to the recent Jewish raids on the Al-Aqsa Mosque, these factors continue to fuel the anger of the Palestinian people. They feel powerless because others decide for them.
Already 187,000 (sic) Palestinians have had to leave their homes in Gaza.
To defuse the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it is first necessary to guarantee “dignity” to the Palestinians, along with their right to live freely and safely on their land.
Until these conditions are met, "there will be no peace.” On the contrary, it is the extremists on both sides [Likud and Hamas] who are …More
occasnltrvlr
@James A Mitchell Can you educate us, James A Mitchell, on the most recent free and democratic election conducted amongst the Palestinian people, and show us the resulting government that was then set up to rule over the Palestinians?
James A Mitchell
The land exists, the people exist. But every time they are given greater opportunity for self-rule they bring in more weapons and attack Israel.
SonoftheChurch
The so called “Palestinians” will never seek peace as long as they allow terrorists to lead them. And the Jews will never live in peace as long as they reject their Messiah.
occasnltrvlr
You use the term "so called 'Palestinians'" but what, pray tell, should the people who lived in that area in 1947 (and their descendants) be called?
SonoftheChurch
@occasnltrvlr I’ll answer your question if you’ll answer mine and tell me when, in modern times or past, was there ever an independent, autonomous, internationally recognized state or nation with a homogeneous or homogenized culture, formed, established and functioning in that geographical area or territory that was officially named “Palestine”? And of course, the ancient Philistines (the now …More
@occasnltrvlr I’ll answer your question if you’ll answer mine and tell me when, in modern times or past, was there ever an independent, autonomous, internationally recognized state or nation with a homogeneous or homogenized culture, formed, established and functioning in that geographical area or territory that was officially named “Palestine”? And of course, the ancient Philistines (the now extinct people from whom the Romans derived and linguistically couched the word we have come to know and express as “Palestine”) cannot be counted as such, since they were never a centralized nation, but were a coalition of independent city-states grouped in the area identified as Gaza today. Or, if you can’t answer that question, perhaps you can accurately identify or tell me what was the name of the nation or government who controlled, ruled or exercised oversight of that territory in the year you specifically referenced: 1947?
occasnltrvlr
@SonoftheChurch My only claim, which is implicit, is that people did live there, and are now unwelcome there. Perhaps a case can be made against calling them "Palestinians". But no case can be made against calling them "refugees", forcibly encamped and with limited self-governance.
What do you suggest we call these refugees?More
@SonoftheChurch My only claim, which is implicit, is that people did live there, and are now unwelcome there. Perhaps a case can be made against calling them "Palestinians". But no case can be made against calling them "refugees", forcibly encamped and with limited self-governance.

What do you suggest we call these refugees?
SonoftheChurch
@occasnltrvlr My personal belief is that they should be granted the status of, and be recognized as, and called: Arab-Israelis or Arabs with Israeli citizenship. I do not ascribe to the so-called “Two State Solution” and thus, do not believe that the Arab residents living in territory historically known and biblically designated as Israel should be granted a portion of that territory for the …More
@occasnltrvlr My personal belief is that they should be granted the status of, and be recognized as, and called: Arab-Israelis or Arabs with Israeli citizenship. I do not ascribe to the so-called “Two State Solution” and thus, do not believe that the Arab residents living in territory historically known and biblically designated as Israel should be granted a portion of that territory for the establishment of an independent, autonomous nation under any circumstances whatsoever. There are currently several Arab states already in existence in that portion of the Middle East, such as Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt, which should actually be serving as permanent places of sanctuary and residence for any Arabs displaced over 76 years ago. I personally believe that the entirety of that land (as specifically defined and apportioned in the Bible) belongs to the Jews, the Hebrew descendants of Saints Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, given to them by God in an immutable, perpetual, unbreachable Covenant, that cannot be dissolved by any human means or agency. Consequently, no part of it must be given or negotiated away under some false, erroneous guise of “peace” or “diplomacy” or “fairness” or “balance.” Those are all nonsensical concepts when dealing with purely spiritual, God-ordained realities. Therefore, all persons of all other ethnicities — and particularly the Arab “refugees” — currently dwelling in that land who can prove generational residency should be eligible for consideration of Israeli citizenship right along side Jewish residents and immigrants, with all of the rights, privileges AND responsibilities thereof — IF they are willing to assimilate culturally and abide peacefully under the rule of law in Israel. Further, within that context, Arabs with provable generational connections to the land, should be granted specific territories or geographical enclaves over which they can exercise limited or partial self-governance, but not oversight independent of the state of Israel, who must, by all means and above all else, maintain sovereignty over the land. Under such an arrangement, the status and governance of Arabian citizens of Israel would be similar to that of the Native American nations and Peoples in the United States.
pw
Not all Palestinians are Muslim. Christian Palestinians are always overlooked.
James A Mitchell
Maybe 5-16% of so-called "Palestinians" worldwide are Christians, most have fled from that region, now maybe 2% remain there.
philosopher
What fuels the anger and hatred among Palestinians is Islamic Jihad ideology.
Wichita Knight
What fuels the anger and hatred among Palestinians is having been promised their own state for 80 years, but always with the qualifier: "Some day, not now."
philosopher
They haven't shown the ability to govern themselves or recognize that Israel has a right to exist. Not until these conditions are met will they get their own state. They already have been given the land, they just are incapable of properly making it into a functioning state that will guarantee peace and stability in the region. Moving from a Palestinian territory to a state won't change their support …More
They haven't shown the ability to govern themselves or recognize that Israel has a right to exist. Not until these conditions are met will they get their own state. They already have been given the land, they just are incapable of properly making it into a functioning state that will guarantee peace and stability in the region. Moving from a Palestinian territory to a state won't change their support of terrorism or attacks on Israel. They would be a defacto hostile nation like Iran.
James A Mitchell
Over half of the Muslim "Palestinians" support HAMAS terrorists, and most of the rest probably support any of a number of competing terrorist organizations.