Did Francis Permit Bishops' Ordinations For PiusX?
A rumour circulating since March substantiates: Francis is permitting the consecration of several bishops for the Society of PiusX. Jeff Cassman and Jim De Piante, two laymen close to the Society, …More
A rumour circulating since March substantiates: Francis is permitting the consecration of several bishops for the Society of PiusX.
Jeff Cassman and Jim De Piante, two laymen close to the Society, wrote on social media (May 31) referring to a credible source that "the Society of Saint Pius X will be consecrating bishops in June 2023 with the permission of Pope Francis."
Among the likely candidates is the Society's superior, Fr Davide Pagliarani.
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Jeff Cassman and Jim De Piante, two laymen close to the Society, wrote on social media (May 31) referring to a credible source that "the Society of Saint Pius X will be consecrating bishops in June 2023 with the permission of Pope Francis."
Among the likely candidates is the Society's superior, Fr Davide Pagliarani.
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To consecrate bishops without the approval of the pope is a schismatic act. If there is no pope, well, that's a different question.
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There is no canonically elected pope...
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Fortunately for Holy Mother Church, there is a duly elected Supreme Pontiff and Successor to Saint Peter seated on the Petrine Throne, serving as the Vicar of Christ on earth, in the Apostolic See: His Holiness, Pope Francis I, our beloved Holy Father.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
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@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori “That’s all I need to say!”
No, my heretical and apostate friend, you actually have NO SAY at all in this matter whatsoever. Nada, nothing, zilch, zero. Because regardless of what you and your satanic fellow schismatics believe, cry, moan, whine and complain about, weeping and wailing and gnashing your teeth, at the end of the day, Pope Francis I is STILL the duly and …More
@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori “That’s all I need to say!”
No, my heretical and apostate friend, you actually have NO SAY at all in this matter whatsoever. Nada, nothing, zilch, zero. Because regardless of what you and your satanic fellow schismatics believe, cry, moan, whine and complain about, weeping and wailing and gnashing your teeth, at the end of the day, Pope Francis I is STILL the duly and canonically elected Successor to Saint Peter, reigning over Holy Mother Church as the Supreme Pontiff and Vicar of Christ (an ecclesial office, by the way, that he has not and cannot separate from the Papacy itself, so he has not “renounced” it as you love to stupidly croak in your unceasing lies and mountainous calumnies) with the power of Christ to bind on earth whatsoever he wills and it will be bound in Heaven. Pope Francis is, and will remain, while he sits alive on the Throne of Saint Peter, the Holy Father. And there is nothing, literally NOTHING, absolutely nothing in this universe that you can do about it. So you can just keep chasing your tail like a rabid dog, frothing at the mouth in your death-wishing hatred of the Holy Father, and see where it gets you…..![😉](/emoji/f09f9889)
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No, my heretical and apostate friend, you actually have NO SAY at all in this matter whatsoever. Nada, nothing, zilch, zero. Because regardless of what you and your satanic fellow schismatics believe, cry, moan, whine and complain about, weeping and wailing and gnashing your teeth, at the end of the day, Pope Francis I is STILL the duly and canonically elected Successor to Saint Peter, reigning over Holy Mother Church as the Supreme Pontiff and Vicar of Christ (an ecclesial office, by the way, that he has not and cannot separate from the Papacy itself, so he has not “renounced” it as you love to stupidly croak in your unceasing lies and mountainous calumnies) with the power of Christ to bind on earth whatsoever he wills and it will be bound in Heaven. Pope Francis is, and will remain, while he sits alive on the Throne of Saint Peter, the Holy Father. And there is nothing, literally NOTHING, absolutely nothing in this universe that you can do about it. So you can just keep chasing your tail like a rabid dog, frothing at the mouth in your death-wishing hatred of the Holy Father, and see where it gets you…..
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Your temper-tantrum rants are like something I would expect of an 8 yr. old. Many people on this site think the same as I. You are the only one (who posts), who think like you. There's millions of us like me.....and comparatively few naive, brainwashed/braindead papalotrists like you. Even those who acknowledge Francis as Pope ( and I realize we're stuck with him for the moment), very many admit he …More
Your temper-tantrum rants are like something I would expect of an 8 yr. old. Many people on this site think the same as I. You are the only one (who posts), who think like you. There's millions of us like me.....and comparatively few naive, brainwashed/braindead papalotrists like you. Even those who acknowledge Francis as Pope ( and I realize we're stuck with him for the moment), very many admit he has departed from the Faith....including Cardinals and great theologians a few weeks ago. By their fruits, we can judge a good, faithful Pope from a bad one. And any Pope who would acknowledge homosexula TRANS prostitutes, and welcome groups of them practically at every general audience...is a heretic and a deviant himself to recieve sodomites.
I suspect that you are either:
a) a neo-con priest....or layman
b) a radical liberal priest or layman
c) Gay
d) someone who never reads or avoids Catholic sites that would shake your rabid defense of the indefensible (Francis and company).![🤔](/emoji/f09fa494)
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I suspect that you are either:
a) a neo-con priest....or layman
b) a radical liberal priest or layman
c) Gay
d) someone who never reads or avoids Catholic sites that would shake your rabid defense of the indefensible (Francis and company).
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@SonoftheChurch @Kenjiro M. Yoshimori There are dozens of papal statements that state that a heretic cannot be elected pope or that if a true pope became a heretic he would lose the office ipso facto. So spare us your sanctimonious preaching SonoftheChurch and do some research!
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Just typical hogwash from know it all sspx lay people. Nothing new.
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I'd support the SSPX priests,religious, and lay people before I'd support Pope Francis and his homo crew of associates and appointees any day.
Rafat Ovile, you misunderstand His Grace archbishop Lefebrve - he attempted to co-operate with Rome as far as he could go. And in essense he did have permission to consecrate bishops; it was the traditional candidates he chose that Rome bulked at. Spiritually though, his heart and mind was united with Rome and he never saw it as a "shameful dishonour" to try and work with his own Church. It broke …More
Rafat Ovile, you misunderstand His Grace archbishop Lefebrve - he attempted to co-operate with Rome as far as he could go. And in essense he did have permission to consecrate bishops; it was the traditional candidates he chose that Rome bulked at. Spiritually though, his heart and mind was united with Rome and he never saw it as a "shameful dishonour" to try and work with his own Church. It broke his heart to be forced in such a corner. I hope the rumour is true and that yes, Pope Francis is permitting the consecration of SSPX bisops. What a wonderful conclusion to Archbishop Lefebrve's amazing legacy :)
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It would be shameful and dishonor to have permission for consecration from uncanonically elected highly probable antipope when Abp Lefebrve did consecrations without permission of valid pope. Especially if Franicis' pontificate would be abrogated...
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I don't know if any of us will be around to see it (but I'm just 28), but abrogating the reign of a pope etc takes time. I'm sure they would pick thru all the minute details of Bergoglio's reign before actually declaring him a heretic and apostate and abrogate his entire reign.....which I'm sure will happen years from now.
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Well, that's at least one good thing Bergoglio would have done in his term as Pope...allowing for the consecration of more SSPX bishops (hopefully at least 6). After all, they, and perhaps also sede vacantist bishops, as well as a handful of established Vatican II bishops who oppose Francis in general, are the only authentic Catholic bishops in the world.
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I'd take 12 at this point. I wish Archbishop Lefebvre would have consecrated more.
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Williamson wrote about this (including the fake news that the bishops are FORMER members of SSPX) on Saturday.
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I hope Williamson was wrong about that, but it’s too soon to say that it’s fake news, in whole or in part. If it’s Pagliarani, along with 2 former SSPX priests, I think Williamson’s comment stands. If it’s three current SSPXers, then he’s wrong.
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I hope they get six new bishops. That's how much the SSPX and those faithful to it has grown.