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Brazilian Jesuit: End Of Celibacy Will Come Up At "Amazon" Synod

The "Amazon" Synod of Bishops will talk about ordaining married men to the priesthood, Brazilian Jesuit Francisco Taborda told CruxNow.com (February 28).

Taborda insisted on a "shortage of priests" and called married priests “the solution" for it.

The question is what the modernists will abolish next, once they realize that abolishing Latin, the liturgy, Catholic morals, Canon Law, the indissolubility of marriage, and priestly celibacy has not brought about the much desired "reform" of the Church.

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Prayhard
I hope Bolsonoro could detain those Commies.
Don Reto Nay
@mystic: If we think your argument that "nobody can have all seven sacraments not even Jesus" [who does not need them and therefore would be allowed to receive them] to the end, we would have to conclude that everybody should be consecrated .... a bishop. Because this is the fulness of the sacrament of order. But: the sacraments are not given to individuals but to the Church that uses them according …More
@mystic: If we think your argument that "nobody can have all seven sacraments not even Jesus" [who does not need them and therefore would be allowed to receive them] to the end, we would have to conclude that everybody should be consecrated .... a bishop. Because this is the fulness of the sacrament of order. But: the sacraments are not given to individuals but to the Church that uses them according to individual needs.
mystic
@Don Reto Nay
You say: Jesus does not need the sacraments.
Then cometh Jesus from Galilee upon the Jordan, unto John to be baptized by him, but John was forbidding him, saying, `I have need by thee to be baptized -- and thou dost come unto me!' But Jesus answering said to him, `Suffer now, for thus it is becoming to us to fulfill all righteousness,' then he doth suffer him.
Jesus says that Baptism …More
@Don Reto Nay
You say: Jesus does not need the sacraments.

Then cometh Jesus from Galilee upon the Jordan, unto John to be baptized by him, but John was forbidding him, saying, `I have need by thee to be baptized -- and thou dost come unto me!' But Jesus answering said to him, `Suffer now, for thus it is becoming to us to fulfill all righteousness,' then he doth suffer him.

Jesus says that Baptism is not a thing of needs, but a thing of righteousness. So nobody needs baptism, but is baptized to fulfill righteousness.

Do you want to give Jesus a special position as a human? Sorry. Heaven's righteousness is unlike worldly righteousness. It doesn't work that way. If Jesus came down to be human, he may do incredible things, but righteousness demands He has the same rights and plights as the least among the brethren.

Or what do you think is the righteousness Jesus is mentioning?

Even so I am not so sure if it is ok to take that decision, therefore time will tell.
Don Reto Nay
@mystic: Baptism confers the sanctifying grace. Christ has the fulness of the sanctifying grace because he is God. Therefore he does not need and cannot be baptized. The baptism of Saint John the Baptist was not the Christian baptism.
mystic
@Don Reto Nay you say: Christ has the fullness of the sanctifying grace because he is God.
Sir,without judging you. But when I read things like that, it sounds like a construct that is put in place to explain things that are not understood, leading to false conclusions and hence stray others.
My Jesus is the God who came down from the heavens and became a man among men with all sores that being a …More
@Don Reto Nay you say: Christ has the fullness of the sanctifying grace because he is God.
Sir,without judging you. But when I read things like that, it sounds like a construct that is put in place to explain things that are not understood, leading to false conclusions and hence stray others.
My Jesus is the God who came down from the heavens and became a man among men with all sores that being a man implies, even subject to the temptations of the adversary and by virtue he became the Son of God, and by His own decision he was crucified to fulfill the will of God the father. (He could walk away from it and He did not). All because of the fulfillment of divine justice.

Because one day the devil was going to and fro in the land, and walking up and down on it and after his journeys he turned himself to God and said: Yeah God, you have an easy life there yo. Angels that serve you all day in your precious heaven and you see everything and everyone from above and you are judging the people down there. Hey I can do that in your position, you don't even know how it is to be down there, live in poverty, suffering hunger, being repressed by kings landlords and my bullies and despised by everyone.

I pray thee God, if you were in that situation having nothing and in need you would quickly sin as they sin. You would steal the bread when truly hungry, you would kill when attacked, and you would curse God when sick or repressed.

And while the words of the devil were righteous, God went down and became men, having nothing and needing, just like everybody else. Out of righteousness.

So once a man appears in front of Jesus Christ the judge, He is judged righteously.
So you were a thief and a murderer? Jesus asks the man on trial. Yes answers the man, if you were in my situation, you would have stolen and murdered yourself.
Jesus the Judge answers: I was in your situation, I had nothing, I was despised and rejected by my own people, they tortured me and killed me, even so I did not open my mouth, and you knew that this was what I did, because this testimonial is well known in the whole world.

Righteousness my dear. Christ has the fullness of the sanctifying grace not because of being God (sounds muslim to me), but because of virtue. He earned it.
mystic
Tell the above story, my Jesus told me, to the people for whom the law was made. To the stubborn and the people with a hardened heart. Because the law is for them who do not want to obey it.
For the law I am. Like a lion is the law. If you become one with the law and obey me then you become one with me. An then you are within me and I am a Lion within you. Everybody like you will be a lion between …More
Tell the above story, my Jesus told me, to the people for whom the law was made. To the stubborn and the people with a hardened heart. Because the law is for them who do not want to obey it.

For the law I am. Like a lion is the law. If you become one with the law and obey me then you become one with me. An then you are within me and I am a Lion within you. Everybody like you will be a lion between the lions. If you are outside the law, and thus outside of me, then I am a lion outside of you, and I will devour you.

A good valid answer against this what I say about Jesus and righteousness would be: John 3:16 for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.

This because God told me, love is my righteousness. I knew from the beginning that the devil would try me, so I had long planned even before the devil was conceived, to send my son out of love and not because of righteousness, however righteous it is also for the people for whom the law was made.
mystic
Try not to get caught by a negativity flow.
If somebody is diagnosed with paranoia, it doesn't mean that he is not being persecuted.
Even so, if Francis takes another decision, it is not necessarily a bad decision.
Therefore I am not so sure if this is a mistake. Time will tell.
Some successful early church fathers were married.
And what I always found strange is that nobody can have all seven …More
Try not to get caught by a negativity flow.
If somebody is diagnosed with paranoia, it doesn't mean that he is not being persecuted.
Even so, if Francis takes another decision, it is not necessarily a bad decision.
Therefore I am not so sure if this is a mistake. Time will tell.
Some successful early church fathers were married.
And what I always found strange is that nobody can have all seven sacraments, not even Jesus. Unless you would allow for a broader understanding of marriage, but then that gives an artificial feeling to marriage.
In conclusion this all makes me feel that there is something wrong with the sacraments, or with the administration behind it, or it needs some sort of fix.
Now allowing married men access to the Holy Orders, may be that fix.
But time will tell.
mattsixteen24
The priesthood is full of sodomites. Does it make a lot sense to end celibacy???