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Schneider: "If We Formally Disobey Francis, We Obey The Church Of All Times"

Bishop Athanasius Schneider told RemnantNewspaper.com (12 October, video below) that he opposes Francis because the Church is "not a dictatorship".

"In a dictatorship, everyone is afraid to speak out because the dictator will suddenly punish you. But that should [sic!] not be the atmosphere in the Church," he said.

The bishop stressed that the current crisis over Catholic doctrine and the papacy was unique in the entire history of the Church. Not even the immoral Renaissance popes caused scandals by confusing doctrine.

Schneider sees "poor Francis" in a pitiable situation because he will have to answer to God one day "for leaving such a mess in the Church."

Therefore, he said, Francis' harmful orders should not be obeyed if they undermine the faith or take away the treasure of the liturgy: "Even if we would formally disobey, we will obey the whole Church of all times."

Schneider believes that canceled priests who oppose the dictatorship of Francis and his bishops cannot be fully independent and must have a superior. He thinks a priest can still join forces with a perhaps emeritus bishop, a traditional community or PiusX.

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Miles - Christi - English
With all due respect, and without wanting to provoke, what this bishop says is utter nonsense: formal disobedience to the Pope constitutes a schism. What this good man does not seem to understand is that the conciliar authorities (all of them, from JXXIII onwards, not only Bergoglio), who promote modernist ecumenism -cf. interreligious meetings in Assisi, convened by the last three conciliar popes …More
With all due respect, and without wanting to provoke, what this bishop says is utter nonsense: formal disobedience to the Pope constitutes a schism. What this good man does not seem to understand is that the conciliar authorities (all of them, from JXXIII onwards, not only Bergoglio), who promote modernist ecumenism -cf. interreligious meetings in Assisi, convened by the last three conciliar popes-, are not Catholic and, therefore, cannot enjoy true jurisdiction over the faithful, the conclusion is inevitable. It is absurd to think that in order to preserve the faith one must oppose the alleged Vicar of Christ, it is a position as absurd and untenable as it is contrary to Catholicism... - See: 1. The Vatican promotes apostasy and a global religion - 2. "2013-2022: Nine Years With Francis" - 3. Ocho años con Francisco. - 4. Bergoglio, la gran apostasía y la crisis conciliar - 5. "2013-2022: Nueve años con Francisco"
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Bp Schneider insists that each priest needs to have a superior, otherwise it is not Catholic and danger that he becomes a sort of "guru" or his own pope. Insists that priests who disobey for sake of TLM seek a superior, even a retired bishop or SSPX who supervises him.
Scapular
Schneider believes that canceled priests who oppose the dictatorship of Francis and his bishops cannot be fully independent and must have a superior. He thinks a priest can still join forces with a perhaps emeritus bishop, a traditional community or PiusX.
Adrien
Bishop Athanasius Schneider is going in the right direction. Soon enough he will completely reject Francis Bergoglio the New Judas.
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Rand Miller
Athanasius Schneider does not know Catholic doctrine regarding the papacy.
Rafał_Ovile
Rand Miller there is evidence he does... Just another issue...
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Schneider: If “a Pope creates confusion and ambiguity regarding the integrity of the Catholic faith and the sacred Liturgy, then one must not obey him, and one must obey the Church of all ages and the Popes who, during two millennia were teaching constantly and clearly all the Catholic truths in the same sense.”"
andrew24157
Pope Francis probably won't repent before his death.
Tony M
Sally D we have to pray and sacrifice for all the Catholics who have been led into mortal sin (including sacrilegious communion) by the heresies, blasphemies and scandalous Pachamama worshipping of Jorge Bergoglio. And this situation with the apostate on the Chair of Peter screams out for an Imperfect Council to be covened to investigate all of the potential canonical breaches in the process of …More
Sally D we have to pray and sacrifice for all the Catholics who have been led into mortal sin (including sacrilegious communion) by the heresies, blasphemies and scandalous Pachamama worshipping of Jorge Bergoglio. And this situation with the apostate on the Chair of Peter screams out for an Imperfect Council to be covened to investigate all of the potential canonical breaches in the process of Jorge coming to the Chair....including the fact that he was a heretic long before he was elected.
HOW, IN GOD'S EYES, CAN A HERETIC EVER HAVE BEEN VALIDLY ELECTED TO THE PAPACY.???
FAITHFUL CARDINALS OF THE CHURCH.......PLEASE INVESTIGATE OUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED!!!!!
PLEASE PLEASE DO THAT!!!
Adrien
LiveJohn
@Tony M, @Adrien. The answer is to be found here:
Universi Dominici Gregis (February 22, 1996) | John Paul II
Note particularly; Chapter 2, Para,12b.
An invalid Conclave equals an Invalid Successor to the Apostle Peter.
Salvatore Bastatti
Mr Schneider is obviously unaware of the breakdown in the Catholic Church's teaching on man during Mr Luther's tirades.
Adrien
At least Bishop Athanasius Schneider is aware of many heresies hurled by Francis !
By the way, do you believe that it is the Eternal Father's Will for any country to create same-sex civil unions?More
At least Bishop Athanasius Schneider is aware of many heresies hurled by Francis !

By the way, do you believe that it is the Eternal Father's Will for any country to create same-sex civil unions?
lancs1
Bishop Schneider concelebrated the novus ordo "Mass" with Bergoglio only a couple of weeks ago. So much for opposing Francis...
aderito
Yes he cocelebrated in a NOVUS ORDO MASS , are you trying to say that he agrees with errors of the pope ?iam sure that he told the pope about the errors that its going on the church in a private setting ,besides Novus Ordo Mass is the mass the most catholics are attending now ,are they all in sin for attending and going to hell for it ? i dont think So
lancs1
Many of them don't know any better or they have no access to anything else. Bp Schneider knows the arguments and could choose the Mass of Ages, always, rather than giving promotion to the masonic-protestant creation and Bergoglio's destructive designs .
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Adrien
Bishop Athanasius Schneider being a Catholic of good will, wants the SSPX to be in full communion with the Mystical Body of our Lord Jesus-Christ. That's understandable but when the faithful Cardinals and Bishops will abandon Francis the traitor, then the Great Schism will be completely effective for all the diocesan ''bishops'' that will remain with Francis and the SSPX will have the opportunity …More
Bishop Athanasius Schneider being a Catholic of good will, wants the SSPX to be in full communion with the Mystical Body of our Lord Jesus-Christ. That's understandable but when the faithful Cardinals and Bishops will abandon Francis the traitor, then the Great Schism will be completely effective for all the diocesan ''bishops'' that will remain with Francis and the SSPX will have the opportunity to join the Catholic Church. @Chat Chartreux
Rafał_Ovile
Chat Chartreux they reject pope Benedict XVI and accept 'Una cum' Francis.
How is the SSPX not in "full communion" with the Catholic Church?
Adrien
@Chat Chartreux
-How is the SSPX not in “full communion” with the Catholic Church?
John-Paul the Second was a genuine Supreme Pontiff and Marcel Lefebvre provoked the schism of 1988. He was indubitably excommunicated along with the five others because he performed episcopal consecrations after he received an official warning from the reigning Supreme Pontiff formally commanding the Archbishop to …More
@Chat Chartreux

-How is the SSPX not in “full communion” with the Catholic Church?

John-Paul the Second was a genuine Supreme Pontiff and Marcel Lefebvre provoked the schism of 1988. He was indubitably excommunicated along with the five others because he performed episcopal consecrations after he received an official warning from the reigning Supreme Pontiff formally commanding the Archbishop to refrain from proceeding.

Having many good points about how things should be done in the Church, being treated unfairly to some degree, and saying in public that you don’t care about being excommunicated; all those elements do not give anybody a special right to split from the One Catholic Church.

Then came the schism. Subsequently the Successor of the Apostle Peter had no authority over the new parallel ‘church’ given that Fr. Schmidberger was the administrator and Archbishop Lefebvre the patriarch without ecclesiastical Communion with the Supreme Pontiff to whom obedience and submission are due.

Since then, Pope Benedict XVI removed the excommunication and granted to the clergy of the SSPX only ‘’Partial Communion’’ and said:

‘’In the same spirit and with the same commitment to encouraging the resolution of all fractures and divisions in the Church and to healing a wound in the ecclesial fabric that was more and more painfully felt, I wished to remit the excommunication of the four Bishops illicitly ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre. With this decision I intended to remove an impediment that might have jeopardized the opening of a door to dialogue and thereby to invite the Bishops and the “Society of St Pius X” to rediscover the path to full communion with the Church. As I explained in my Letter to the Catholic Bishops of last 10 March, the remission of the excommunication was a measure taken in the context of ecclesiastical discipline to free the individuals from the burden of conscience constituted by the most serious of ecclesiastical penalties. However, the doctrinal questions obviously remain and until they are clarified the Society has no canonical status in the Church and its ministers cannot legitimately exercise any ministry.’’

-How is “faithful Cardinals and Bishops” abandoning Francis any different from what Archbishop Lefebvre did? Aren’t they just late to the very same circumstances?

The two situations are rather opposite.

Francis Bergoglio is not canonically elected since he was not a member of the Church.

Images 1-2-3.

Vision of Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich 1820-1821:

“I see many excommunicated ecclesiastics who do not seem to be concerned about it, nor even aware of it. Yet, they are (ipso facto) excommunicated whenever they cooperated to [sic] enterprises, enter into associations, and embrace opinions on which an anathema has been cast[i.e. become Freemasons]. It can be seen thereby that God ratifies the decrees, orders, and interdictions issued by the Head of the Church, and that He keeps them in force even though men show no concern for them, reject them, or laugh them to scorn.”

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Francis has nothing more than his white disguise! He is a notorious homosexualist (promoter) and he teaches that sacramentally unmarried couples can receive the Holy Sacrement!

In the face of the Cardinals and Bishops, Francis got away with his deception (being a fake pope), but the accumulation of his heresies and deeds already have stronger consequences. For instance the last declaration of Bishop Athanasius Schneider.