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Transalpine Redemptorists Become Sedevacantists: "No Recognition of Leo XIV"

The Transalpine Redemptorist community has proclaimed itself sedevacantist. In a letter dated 2 May, they wrote: "The pre-Vatican II popes condemned indifferentism as a deadly heresy. The post-Vatican II claimants to the papacy have embraced it, promoted it and acted upon it."

The group has three monasteries. The community's mother house is located in Papa Stronsay, Orkney, Scotland. They also have a house in the Diocese of Christchurch, New Zealand, and a pioneer community in the Diocese of Great Falls–Billings, Montana, USA.

In 2008, they broke away from the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X in order to obtain regularisation from the Vatican, they were then invited by diocesan bishops to establish priories in New Zealand and Montana. Critics accuse the community of fostering a personality cult surrounding the two leading priests.

In their new letter, signed by all the members, they state that "the modernist presence within the structures and hierarchy of the official Church has gone beyond critical mass to a near saturation point".

They refer to "the false Vatican II Church" and describe the Novus Ordo sacraments as having "doubtful validity".

"We must give no juridical recognition to those who have departed from it, including Leo XIV and his bishops."

Their conclusion: "We cannot cooperate with those who claim to be Catholic yet continue to spiral ever deeper into apostasy. No Catholic can. The pirates have boarded the Ark of Peter. There is no room for us on the deck."

They also say: "We must recognise that the institutional structures claiming to be the Catholic Church have been infiltrated. The men who occupy the offices belong to the modernist religion, not the Catholic Church."

Finally, they repeated their plan for a "council" bringing together sedevacantist bishops from around the world. The council would be responsible for "pronouncing on the status of the present claimants to the papacy and restoring order to the Church". However, such a meeting may be "years away".

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V.R.S.

Unfortunately, their statement (in spite of many precious remarks and quotations, and in spite of their courage amidst the present standard of "dumb dog") is somewhat absurd. They call for the "imperfect council" to judge the matter of post-conciliar popes and pronounce canonical judgement on Prevost but at the same time they want to see at the council only those who have already judged the above claiming that - starting from Montini up to Prevost - there was no pope. Thus, it would be the council of the matter already judged.
Second thing is a quite grotesque perception of the Petrine office i.e. Pope never errs, also in questions of discipline, so you cannot resist him in any matter - all you can do is... just proclaim that he is no Pope at all.
Third is the question of distinctions between heresy and proposal close to heresy or one that favors heresy or error - only heresy (public and notorious) excludes from the Church (thus the Petrine Office), the error does not.

123jussi

And formal heresy has to be judged by someone with that authority....aside from Christ who can judge the pope?

V.R.S.

@123jussi
The Church i.e. bishops. In case of formal heresy we are talking about the ex-pope so the Church can pronounce judgement against him. Bellarmine says that in case of suspicion of schism or heresy on the side of the pope the so-called imperfect council is a good idea.

Denis Efimov

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Malki Tzedek

Even Jesus told His pope designate, "Get behind me, Satan!" when Peter was slipping into a worldly mentality. Peter's most recent successors appear to deserve no less a rebuke.

123jussi

There is a very good argument that they were and are bad popes but popes they are. The idea that if a pope is bad he is no longer pope is really very silly.

mccallansteve

There is a very good argument to be made that Leo is not the pope. He sure doesn't act like it or teach like it. One day, Holy Mother the Church will make a determination

Edie Loughmiller

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SonoftheChurch

Sad...so very sad. Come back to thine Holy Mother, my dear Brethren. Forsake thy rebellion and cleave unto thine Holy Mother.

john333

On to something has Rome gone masonic
Gay Mafia clergy is been in charge

brhenry

Became Christian sect #43,265.

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