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Trump appoints openly gay LGBT activist to director of intelligence agencies | News

WASHINGTON, D.C., February 20, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) — President Donald Trump has tapped Richard Grenell, currently the …
mccallansteve
It's Trump or a satanic democrat.
Tribunus Classis Imperialis
BTW position is worthless. Trump throws a bone to the sodo-lobby. Realpolitik. Amoral tho' it be....
Tribunus Classis Imperialis
Barfff
tbswv
Kind of inconsistent of Mr Trump to be pro-life yet support an anti-family (in the traditional sense) lifestyle.
Pattfm
The good popes are accused of the prevailing of that period:
Pope Pius IX: googleweblight.com/iwww.nytimes.com/…/before-the-holo…
Ultraviolet
Great links, Pattfm. Very informative. ;-)
Pattfm
And they have something in store for Pope Pius XII.
Pattfm
It is a single link optimised by google. Just delete the weblight's prefix.
Ultraviolet
The pages is still not found. Well done. :D
The man who owns the New York Times is Jewish. Just thought you should know since you ARE going on about..."But if Jews, then you that its part pf their big agenda."
So you criticize Jewish historians and then post articles from a a Jewish owned newspaper.
Have fun trying to post a link, Pattfm. I'll leave you to it, then.More
The pages is still not found. Well done. :D

The man who owns the New York Times is Jewish. Just thought you should know since you ARE going on about..."But if Jews, then you that its part pf their big agenda."

So you criticize Jewish historians and then post articles from a a Jewish owned newspaper.

Have fun trying to post a link, Pattfm. I'll leave you to it, then.
Pattfm
I'm happy you learnt something today.
Pattfm
It is a single link optimised by google. Just delete the weblight's suffix. :) You know, they try to standardise everything.
Ultraviolet
I understand that, Pattfm. I'm discussing the page you're trying to link!
Maybe you're doing this to be stupid on purpose.
Only you could manage to fail at something as basic as posting an URL
Better still, wait until you get home and try accessing GTV from your computer and not with your mobile.
Then you can figure out why you're complaining about Jews while trying to post an URL to a Jewish-…More
I understand that, Pattfm. I'm discussing the page you're trying to link!

Maybe you're doing this to be stupid on purpose.

Only you could manage to fail at something as basic as posting an URL

Better still, wait until you get home and try accessing GTV from your computer and not with your mobile.

Then you can figure out why you're complaining about Jews while trying to post an URL to a Jewish-owned newspaper.

At this point, it doesn't matter.
Pattfm
Read, and try to understand the primary comment before nesting any comment.
Pattfm
"Other popes before him actually WERE homosexuals." by Jews of course.
1. The information on that link is just accusation if you really read it.
2. Many other Saints like St. Theresa of Avila was accused with similar accusations.
3. There has been a unbroken line of Succession of Peter. Those who usurped the Chair are called anitipopes. Those who are the true representatives of Christ are called …More
"Other popes before him actually WERE homosexuals." by Jews of course.
1. The information on that link is just accusation if you really read it.
2. Many other Saints like St. Theresa of Avila was accused with similar accusations.
3. There has been a unbroken line of Succession of Peter. Those who usurped the Chair are called anitipopes. Those who are the true representatives of Christ are called The Vicar of Christ i.e., pope.
3. Other popes before who? Other freemasons, homosexuals?
Ultraviolet
"1. The information on that link is just accusation if you really read it."
...which you didn't since each so-called accusation has multiple citations.
"2. Many other Saint like St. Theresa of Avilla was accused with similar accusations."
Irrelevant to the discussion. None of these Popes were saints, either.
"3. There has been a unbroken line of Succession of Peter. Those who usurped the Chair …More
"1. The information on that link is just accusation if you really read it."

...which you didn't since each so-called accusation has multiple citations.

"2. Many other Saint like St. Theresa of Avilla was accused with similar accusations."

Irrelevant to the discussion. None of these Popes were saints, either.

"3. There has been a unbroken line of Succession of Peter. Those who usurped the Chair are called anitipopes."

Yeah, that's nice. Pattfm. It's a pity Benedict XVI resigned. It's a shame the Curia elected Francis in his place. Francis being a lousy Pope wouldn't change even if Benedict XVI had passed away first.

"3. Other popes before who? Other freemasons, homosexuals?"

...that moment when you realize Pattfm can't count from 1-4 without screwing it up, much less write a coherent sentence. :D

"...by Jews of course."
Your Fallacy Is: Genetic.
Pattfm
E.g. Pope Leo X:
1. Was accused of homosexuality after his death.
2. In the midst of inquisitions?
The Very first thing to do is to know who the accusers are.
If they are Protestants, then you can excuse their ignorance a bit. But if Jews, then you that its part pf their big agenda.More
E.g. Pope Leo X:
1. Was accused of homosexuality after his death.
2. In the midst of inquisitions?

The Very first thing to do is to know who the accusers are.
If they are Protestants, then you can excuse their ignorance a bit. But if Jews, then you that its part pf their big agenda.
Ultraviolet
History isn't an accusation. Facts don't stop being facts because of the religion, nationality, gender, or ethnicity of the person presenting them.
I forgot that logic is beyond you. My apologies for that.More
History isn't an accusation. Facts don't stop being facts because of the religion, nationality, gender, or ethnicity of the person presenting them.

I forgot that logic is beyond you. My apologies for that.
Pattfm
History by Jews? or by Protestants?
Is it not something stupid to accuse a pope of homosexuality (because all priests are males) during the time of various Inquisitions?
Pattfm
Exercise 1:
Muslims, Jews and Atheists accuse Our Lady of ___ to attack the divinity of Christ.
Ultraviolet
Nobody is attacking "Our Lady of ____" or the divinity of Christ. You're attacking the people writing about history because you can't cope with history as it happened.
You're also forgetting the original sources of this info werent "Jewish" or "Protestant" or "Atheists". But why should you let a little thing like that stop you?More
Nobody is attacking "Our Lady of ____" or the divinity of Christ. You're attacking the people writing about history because you can't cope with history as it happened.

You're also forgetting the original sources of this info werent "Jewish" or "Protestant" or "Atheists". But why should you let a little thing like that stop you?
Pattfm
So who were they?
Ultraviolet
As I said, you didn't read the material. No surprises.
Pattfm
Strange. Not Jews, not Protestants, not Atheists. We have very few options left.
en.m.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_sexuall…
Pattfm
Also go through the referenced works and take note of all their publication dates: like the proliferation of abortion in the USA or the invasion of European countries.
Ultraviolet
Pattfm, we are discussing the source of the historical information about the Popes, not the page history on Wikipedia. Specifically I was referring to the primary source documents these historians used.
You can't read English properly. You can't post a link without failing miserably. You don't know what you're talking about.More
Pattfm, we are discussing the source of the historical information about the Popes, not the page history on Wikipedia. Specifically I was referring to the primary source documents these historians used.

You can't read English properly. You can't post a link without failing miserably. You don't know what you're talking about.
Pattfm
"Specifically"
So you are referring to the reference in your reference?
"You can't... You can't... You don't..."
So you have prostituted from the article on Wikipedia to the reference in your reference?
Ultraviolet
"So you have prostituted from the article on Wikipedia to the reference in your reference?"
You need to learn better English grammar before you can write this type of sarcasm without showing your mistakes. I'm not going to be your English tutor. ;-)More
"So you have prostituted from the article on Wikipedia to the reference in your reference?"

You need to learn better English grammar before you can write this type of sarcasm without showing your mistakes. I'm not going to be your English tutor. ;-)
malemp
Ultraviolet
What Pope Francis supports doesn't change the fact he's still Pope Francis, Thors Catholic Hammer Other popes before him actually WERE homosexuals.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexuall…
They were also still Popes. No doubt many in the Curia in those Papacies were aware of the sin and deplored it . Recognizing a Pope is sinful doesn't imply support for his sin or his agenda as Pope. Nor does …More
What Pope Francis supports doesn't change the fact he's still Pope Francis, Thors Catholic Hammer Other popes before him actually WERE homosexuals.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexuall…

They were also still Popes. No doubt many in the Curia in those Papacies were aware of the sin and deplored it . Recognizing a Pope is sinful doesn't imply support for his sin or his agenda as Pope. Nor does it change the fact he is still Pope.

Your constant association of Francis with homosexuality is a lame attempt to sway emotion now that you've failed to do so with facts.

What happened, Crackers? You finally gave up on Canon Law after I force fed it to you enough times? You went looking for photos of Pope Emeritus Benedict "still wearing the Papal Ring" and you came up empty again? Is that it?

Or maybe was it our last little bout when you accidentally acknowledged Benedict's resignation? "Many, including himself, thought he did, " your exact words. Oh, that was a beauty! I'm still smirking at the own-goal you landed there.
Pattfm
"Other popes before him actually WERE homosexuals." by Jews of course.
1. The information on that link is just accusation if you really read it.
2. Many other Saints like St. Theresa of Avila was accused with similar accusations. Joan of Arc was accused of being a witch.
3. There has been an unbroken line of Succession of Peter. Those who usurped the Chair are called anitipopes. Those who are the …More
"Other popes before him actually WERE homosexuals." by Jews of course.
1. The information on that link is just accusation if you really read it.
2. Many other Saints like St. Theresa of Avila was accused with similar accusations. Joan of Arc was accused of being a witch.
3. There has been an unbroken line of Succession of Peter. Those who usurped the Chair are called anitipopes. Those who are the true representatives of Christ are called The Vicar of Christ i.e., pope.
3. Other popes before who? Other freemasons, homosexuals?
Thors Catholic Hammer
@Ultraviolet.
Listen you arrogant clown who thinks you are the only person alive who knows papal history.
Past homosexually active popes never ever questioned or promoted a homosexual lifestyle.
All of them conceded the mortally sinful nature of such lifestyles and never publicly condoned them.
You seem now to think that because I expose Bergoglio's public contempt for catholic teaching I have …More
@Ultraviolet.
Listen you arrogant clown who thinks you are the only person alive who knows papal history.
Past homosexually active popes never ever questioned or promoted a homosexual lifestyle.
All of them conceded the mortally sinful nature of such lifestyles and never publicly condoned them.
You seem now to think that because I expose Bergoglio's public contempt for catholic teaching I have forgotten Benedict’s breaches of canon law.
On every single catholic moral , doctrinal and legal front the alleged papacy of Bergoglio fails badly

But you keep defending it and spitting at those who expose it.
Are you yourself a homosexual?

In relation to Pope Benedict the evidence of an incomplete resignation is overwhelming.
Wake up and stop defending the indefensible.
Ultraviolet
"Listen you arrogant clown who thinks you are the only person alive who knows papal history."
...said the man who cries all the time about how he's a victim of "vitriol" and "abuse" and "bullying" and "intimidation" and "harrassment".
"Past homosexually active popes never ever questioned or promoted a homosexual lifestyle."
Re-read that sentence of yours out loud Thors Catholic Hammer and then …More
"Listen you arrogant clown who thinks you are the only person alive who knows papal history."

...said the man who cries all the time about how he's a victim of "vitriol" and "abuse" and "bullying" and "intimidation" and "harrassment".

"Past homosexually active popes never ever questioned or promoted a homosexual lifestyle."

Re-read that sentence of yours out loud Thors Catholic Hammer and then you'll realize how stupid you truly are.

It's also a great example of you making things up again. No proof, no evidence, just your big beak inventing new distinctions without a shred of evidence.

History also disproves you. Those "queer popes" were blatant and it was a scandal. Homosexuals in authority "promote homosexual lifetsyles", by living them and encouraging others to do so.

"All of them conceded the mortally sinful nature of such lifestyles and never publicly condoned them."

Post direct quotes from every one of the Popes accused. Put up or shut up, Crackers. From now on, every time you tell one of these lies, you must supply proof.

Your secondary claim is self-disproving, incidentally.

A queer Pope condones being queer simply by the lifestyle he leads. It becomes common knowledge, as it did during those Papacies, and other queers realize the Pope is "one of them" and condones their actions..

"You seem now to think that because I expose Bergoglio's public contempt for catholic teaching I have forgotten Benedict’s breaches of canon law."

Wrong. You simply choose to ignore them, just as you do with the heresies both he and John Paul II formally taught.

You simply don't care, any more than you care about the truth. It's just a word for you. You lie about Francis, you lie about me, you lie about history. You lie every day. It's what you do.

"But you keep defending it and spitting at those who expose it."

You tell that lie regularly. I'm not defending the policies of Pope Francis. You want to "expose" them? Go right ahead, Crackers. But that doesn't change the fact Francis is Pope.

"In relation to Pope Benedict the evidence of an incomplete resignation is overwhelming."

This is you repeating a lie you can't prove using Canon Law. Last time you tried, I wiped the floor with you.

...and yes, I am arrogant. Slapping you around every day on GTV has that effect on me.

The "passive voice" is always a give-away that you know a statement is false, as well. Every time, Crackers. Every day. :D
Thors Catholic Hammer
But but the man Bergoglio you support vehemently and trenchantly as the Vicar of Christ also publicly embraces and supports the sodomites agenda.
Do you even understand any more what you are on about?
Ultraviolet
That's going to end badly. Does anyone remember Private Bradley Manning? Any scholars here recognize names like John Vassall, Jeremy Wolfenden, Guy Burgess, Kim Philby? There's a reason why the "stereotype" exists.