In 2013 right after the bullying of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, I knew that pope Francis was the DESTROYER sent to us, in the light of the prophecy of Saint Francis of Assisi, his prophecy open my eyes and I did warned all of my friends and family, that Francis SHOULDN'T be trusted... then, in the middle of the CELAM conference, Francis mocked all those who counted Rosaries which were offered as sacrifice in his favor...

SINCE then, the departure from faith has increased to levels beyond the Arianism era, in 3 years of antipope Francis 'personal opinions' and poisonous exhortations, his blabber has been embraced by almost all, as the path to follow. Muslims getting inside Catholic Temples to mock Jesus, Messianic Jews receiving the news that we shouldn't evangelize Jews or anyone as proselytism is a 'solemn nonsense'...

So, it's not a surprise that abortionists are praised as heroes by Francis, pagans are embraced because they have 'gifts', atheists are OK, LGBT should be left alone as we shouldn't intervene in their spirituality, sex should be taught in schools eclipsing what church always taught about parents beings the ones to do so, masses should be 'quick' with a comedian priest tossing jokes, letting mortal sin stand and putting enemies of God in places of power...

We can talk all day about antipope Francis, his poisonous teachings, the demolition of our Church and how we are giving away what is sacred to the enemies of God... RESISTING is the only solution, PERSEVERING through this wave of darkness can only be achieve by knowledge and our trust in Jesus while remaining FAITHFUL... the BEST WAY TO RESIST IS TO GO BACK TO THE TEACHINGS OF OLD, abandon the novus ordo mass IF you have a Latin Mass in your city, abandon all priests who are teaching poison... again, go back to the Traditions of old like St Vincent of Lerins and our Forefathers taught. OPEN YOUR EYES.

Iran is complaining that there are countries in the world giving help to terrorist groups....

First remove the beam in your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck in your neighbour's eye

It's all because of the enforcement of Vatican II, only to establish the atheistic ´human rights´ and the ´religious freedom´, to get rid the world to worship the Godly Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ and the Immaculate Heart of His Holy Mother.
1931--August, Our Lord to Sister Lucy:"Make it known to My ministers that given they follow the example of the King of France in delaying the execution of My request, that they will follow him into misfortune. It will never be too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary."
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The UN governments show a great hardness for the worldwide abortion of unborn children and the Roman officials show a great weakness to fight against it, also to the worldwide violence against Christians - also in Europe, and they don´t intervene against the worldwide sexual violence and the Islam founded sexual violence against children and women.
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ISLAM AND VATICAN COUNCIL II NOT SPOKEN ABOUT

Muslim professors must know exactly what are the teachings of the Catholic Church about Islam and other religions, before and after Vatican Council II

Dr Mustafa Baig, Research Fellow, Institute of Arabic and Islamic Studies, University of Exeter 1 participated in an event on Feb10,2015 at the University of Bristol according to the university website.2 He was not exposed to the real teachings of the Catholic Church.Since Prof. Gavin D'Costa holds the irrational version.It is important that Muslim professors know exactly what are the teachings of the Catholic Church about Islam and other religions, before and after Vatican Council II.

It must be clear to them, that for Gavin D'Costa and the Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales the following irrationality is accepted and is the basis for their interpreting Church documents.

1. The physically dead for us, who are now saved in Heaven in invincible ignorance or with the baptism of desire are considered exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They are not known or visible to us on April 10,2015.Yet salvation in Heaven is objectively seen on earth for D'costa and others, to postulate these cases as living exceptions to the dogma. Vatican Council II (LG 16,LG 8,UR 3, NA 2 etc ) cannot refer to exceptions since these cases would only be known to God.Yet they are exceptions for D'Costa and other Catholics. While a Muslim scholar would agree that there cannot be exceptions to the dogma for us humans, the university faculty does not accept this simple empirical observation.

2. Similarly someone who allegedly died centuries back without the baptism of water would not be an explicit exception to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church today, April 10,2015.A hypothtical case cannot be a defacto exception today.A theoretical case of the past cannot be objectively seen today.So D'Costa cannot refer a case of the past as being a defacto case and an exception in the present times.Yet he does. This would be philosophical reasoning gone wrong.Yet this is being done at the University of Bristol's Department of Religion and Theology.
3.Similarly the University of Bristol faculty would not personally know of someone today April 10, 2015 who would be saved in future, without faith and baptism and so would not need to be a formal member of the Catholic Church, to avoid Hell as the dogma teaches.They cannot posit someone living today as being an exception to Ad Gentes 7 ( all need faith and baptism) and Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441, which says extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Yet this irrationality is maintained by the Faculty in this department.

As a Catholic lay man I reject the irrationality in these three points above promoted by the University of Bristol, even after they have been informed. I do not interpret Catholic Church ( magisterial) documents using this irrationality, which I refer to as Cushingism.

So here are some the Church documents I affirm while avoiding Cushingism.

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.

the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church.-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.

1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation. He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them... The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit."- Catechism of the Catholic Church.

20. Above all else, it must be firmly believed that “the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5), and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door”. This doctrine must not be set against the universal salvific will of God (cf. 1 Tim 2:4); “it is necessary to keep these two truths together, namely, the real possibility of salvation in Christ for all mankind and the necessity of the Church for this salvation”.-Dominus Iesus, Pope John Paul II.

Dialogue should be conducted and implemented with the conviction that the Church is the ordinary means of salvation and that she alone possesses the fullness of the means of salvation-Redemptoris Missio 55.

•“There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” -Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.

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“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”-(Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302

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“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” -Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441 catholicism.org/category/outside-the-chu…

Dialogue should be conducted and implemented with the conviction that the Church is the ordinary means of salvation and that she alone possesses the fullness of the means of salvation - Redemptoris Missio 55.

In the interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257),Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14), Dominus Iesus and Redemptoris Missio I avoid the influence of Cushingism, which for me is irrational and heretical.

Gavin D'Costa and even conservative Catholics would interpret these documents using the irrational premise, inference and conclusion.3.

So according to these Church documents which I have quoted, all Muslims in England need to convert into the Catholic Church formally, with faith and baptism (AG 7) to go to Heaven and avoid Hell. There are no known exceptions and there cannot be any known exception for us Catholics.

For me this is the teaching of the Catholic Church before and after Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades

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10 February 2015: Debate: ‘Muslim-Catholic Relations since Paul VI: The Legacy of Ecclesiam Suam and Vatican II.’
Mustafa Baig, Research Fellow, Institute of Arabic and Islamic Studies, University of Exeter;
Gavin D’Costa, Professor of Catholic Theology, University of Bristol.
Chair: David Leech

University of Bristol and Gavin D'Costa repeat the lie on Catholic teaching : interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism
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In what I believe

what premise ?

The irrational premise is "The dead are visible to us on earth".

what inference/ conclusion ?

The inference is since the dead are visible to us on earth, those who are saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance being explicit ( visible in the flesh) become exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

So it is concluded that Vatican Council II (LG 16 etc) contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So it is concluded that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition, it has the hermeneutic of rupture.
what theology,

The post -1949 theology says every one needs to enter the Catholic Church except for those in invincible ignorance or with the baptism of desire.Since it assumes that defacto( in fact in the present times,explicitly) there are known exceptions to the interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston.So it is a theology which assumes there is salvation outside the Church even though we cannot know of any one saved without 'faith and baptism'.

what Tradition.

Pre- 1949 Catholic Tradition, on salvation ( soteriology) says there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. The three dogmas on extra ecclesiam nulla salus ,defined by three Church Councils, do not mention any exception. The text also does not mention the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance.I am referring to Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 etc.

Also Mystici Corporis and the Council of Trent mention implicit desire etc but do not state that these cases are known to us, to be exceptions to the dogma.Neither do they state that there are exceptions to the dogma.

Yet with the false premise and inference is how the Council of Trent, the Catechism of Pope Pius X etc are interpreted.

Do you accept the baptism of desire?

Yes. I believe a Catechuman who has an implicit desire for the baptism of water and dies before he receives it can be saved. Since God will provide the means for him to receive the baptism of water. It has been the experience of saints, including St. Francis Xavier that some people returned from the dead only to be baptised by them with the baptism of water.

Irrational premise, Irrational inference, Non traditional conclusion

The secular media uses an irrational premise which is "We can see the dead who are now in Heaven, we can physically see them in Heaven and on earth".
They then make an irrational inference which is " Since we can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water and formal entry into the Church, there is known salvation outside the Church and these cases are an explicit exception to the traditional interpretation of EENS."
Their conclusion is : Vatican Council II is a break with EENS.

I accept the Magisterium

'For me the magisterial teaching of the Church documents (and not the contemporary magisterium i.e the persons in power) support the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( AG 7,LG 14, CCC 1257,845,846, Redemptoris Missio 55, Dominus Iesus 20 etc).

I accept the Magisterium ( Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14), CCC 1257, 845,846, Redemptoris Missio 55, Dominus Iesus 20, Council of Trent,Syllabus of Errors, Catechism of Pope Pius X, Cantate Dominio Council of Florence 1441 etc).

Magisterium, Scripture and Tradition, before and after Vatican Council II support Fr.Leonard Feeney and the four Catholic professors of theology, who were expelled by Boston College. www.creativeminorityreport.com/…/dont-blame-vati…
Exclusivist ecclesiology?
The new theology is based on being able to see the dead. Remove the premise, which is, "I can see the dead on earth".We then have the old ecclesiology, the exclusivist ecclesiology. The ecclesiology of Vatican Council II is exclusivist. Since it affirms the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in Ad Gentes 7, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.LG 16,LG 8,UR 3,NA 2 etc are not known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 or the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. We are left with the old ecclesiology.
Who agrees with you?

Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors
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DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

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Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martigioni

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Some one needs to tell these donkeys to read:
Matthew 10:33

But whoever denies Me in front of people, I also will deny him in front of My Father..

All throughout the world we see the departure from faith, cowards pleasing antipope Francis... Now those who truly love our Lord and Savior would've never received such praises from those who are sworn enemies of Jesus, never would've allow such poison published in the Italian Bishops magazine and never would've let Catholicism die in a country while not lifting a finger, on the contrary it's common knowledge that separation between Church and state is what antipope Bergoglio likes... Catholics this is precisely what happens when you compromise to receive 30 coins... when will Catholics see that Rome has lost the faith and this is an antipope era.