Schneider: A Heretic Remains Pope

It is impossible for a pope to lose his office automatically, for example by teaching heresy, Bishop Schneider told LiveFatima.io (14 May), contradicting mere hypothetical theories of St Robert Bellarmin …More
It is impossible for a pope to lose his office automatically, for example by teaching heresy, Bishop Schneider told LiveFatima.io (14 May), contradicting mere hypothetical theories of St Robert Bellarmin and Cajetan. He explains that because of the Church's hierarchical structure, its leaders cannot be deposed like with the Protestants, the Orthodox, and in political parties. A pope doesn't get his office from the cardinals who elected him, but from God. Nor can a pope "automatically" lose his office, because: "Who can pronounce a final judgement on the head of the Church?"
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Rand Miller
A heretic is not a member of the Church so obviously could not be the head of the Church.
123jussi
You are a member by Baptism and while you can lose the grace it conferred you cannot remove the character of the soul.
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Canon law tradition says a pope who commits formal heresy ceases to be pope: expert - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com) But Bergoglio is not pope because heretics are disqualified from being elevated to any ecclesiastical office. Bergoglio was not only a public heretic in Argentina, he was also a Freemason and a communist.
“Among the candidates capable of being validly elected are all those who are not …More
Canon law tradition says a pope who commits formal heresy ceases to be pope: expert - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com) But Bergoglio is not pope because heretics are disqualified from being elevated to any ecclesiastical office. Bergoglio was not only a public heretic in Argentina, he was also a Freemason and a communist.
“Among the candidates capable of being validly elected are all those who are not impeded by divine law or by an invalidating ecclesiastical law… Those prevented from being validly elected are women, children who have not reached the age of reason; Likewise, those affected by habitual insanity, the unbaptized, heretics, schismatics…” (Wernz-Vidal, Jus Canonicum 1: 415)
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BCP: Response to Bishop Schneider’s misleading analysis of obedience – gloria.tv As a manifest idolater and heretic, Bergoglio has excluded himself from the Catholic Church according to Gal 1:8-9 and according to the Dogmatic Bull Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio.
Rafał_Ovile
Pope Benedict XVI decided to remain pope untill death and because of unjust attacks was forced to abdicate, not resign. Therefore card. Bergoglio or anyone else could never have been elected validly untill 31.12.2022...
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Bergoglio's heretical past is what disqualifies him from being Pope of the Catholic Church, as the Magisterium of the Church teaches us. BERGOGLIO´S HERETICAL PAST IS FRANCIS´ PRESENT - CATHOLIC TV PROGRAM A COFFEE WITH GALAT- – gloria.tv
Rafał_Ovile
Firstable it's about antipapacy not heresy...
Tony Smith
He is actually correct in what he has stated.
Adrien
He assumes Francis was canonically elected and is still a valid Pope.
Rafał_Ovile
Adrien ... and is potentially in error.
Krystian N.
Bp Schneider is a brave and honest man but he definitely lacks some intellectual quality.
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The Magisterium of the Church has decreed in perpetuity that the Elevation of a heretic is invalid and null, that is why Bergoglio is not pope because he was already a heretic, an apostate and schismatic in Argentina. If they believe that Bergoglio was unpunished from automatic excommunication in Argentina, that is equivalent to saying that they treat Bergoglio as a god capable of violating the Law …More
The Magisterium of the Church has decreed in perpetuity that the Elevation of a heretic is invalid and null, that is why Bergoglio is not pope because he was already a heretic, an apostate and schismatic in Argentina. If they believe that Bergoglio was unpunished from automatic excommunication in Argentina, that is equivalent to saying that they treat Bergoglio as a god capable of violating the Law of God and of the Church in Argentina with impunity. That is to say that by passing Bergoglio's heretical past that disqualifies him to be POPE, the bergoglios put Bergoglio on the pedestal of idolatry above the LAWS OF GOD AND THE CHURCH.
LiveJohn
@la verdad prevalece An apostate candidate could only be elected to high office by a like minded or uninformed Hierarchy. Such an event would have serious consequences by invoking Divine Intervention or even worse.....
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CUM EX APOSTOLATUS OFFICIO (mercaba.org)
6. Nulidad de todas las promociones o elevaciones de desviados en la Fe.
Agregamos que si en algún tiempo aconteciese que un Obispo, incluso en función de Arzobispo, o de Patriarca, o Primado; o un Cardenal, incluso en función de Legado, o electo Pontífice Romano que antes de su promoción al Cardenalato o asunción al Pontificado, se hubiese desviado de la …More
CUM EX APOSTOLATUS OFFICIO (mercaba.org)

6. Nulidad de todas las promociones o elevaciones de desviados en la Fe.

Agregamos que si en algún tiempo aconteciese que un Obispo, incluso en función de Arzobispo, o de Patriarca, o Primado; o un Cardenal, incluso en función de Legado, o electo Pontífice Romano que antes de su promoción al Cardenalato o asunción al Pontificado, se hubiese desviado de la Fe Católica, o hubiese caído en herejía. o incurrido en cisma, o lo hubiese suscitado o cometido, la promoción o la asunción, incluso si ésta hubiera ocurrido con el acuerdo unánime de todos los Cardenales, es nula, inválida y sin ningún efecto; y de ningún modo puede considerarse que tal asunción haya adquirido validez, por aceptación del cargo y por su consagración, o por la subsiguiente posesión o cuasi posesión de gobierno y administración, o por la misma entronización o adoración del Pontífice Romano, o por la obediencia que todos le hayan prestado, cualquiera sea el tiempo transcurrido después de los supuestos antedichos. Tal asunción no será tenida por legítima en ninguna de sus partes, y no será posible considerar que se ha otorgado o se otorga alguna facultad de administrar en las cosas temporales o espirituales a los que son promovidos, en tales circustancias, a la dignidad de obispo, arzobispo, patriarca o primado, o a los que han asumido la función de Cardenales, o de Pontífice Romano, sino que por el contrario todos y cada uno de los pronunciamientos, hechos, actos y resoluciones y sus consecuentes efectos carecen de fuerza, y no otorgan ninguna validez, y ningún derecho a nadie.
LiveJohn
@la verdad prevalece Therefore it follows; that ignorance is no excuse - even more so if its deliberate and thereby 'leading souls on the road to perdition'. God help and protect us from the wolves in sheep's clothing.
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Who Pronounces Judgment on a Heretic? The Magisterium of the Church.
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The other sin that Bergoglians commit is called BERGOGLIO-IDOLATRY because they put Bergoglio above the LAW OF GOD AND THE CHURCH.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
Sadly, I have the feeling Schneider is trying to cover himself.......as if he knows someone is watching him/reading his posts (like one of Francis' trolls). 🤪
Alejandrina Reyes
123jussi
Why with all the blasphemy,abortions,pornography,sex trafficking,murders,sexual perversion, rioting,lying,stealing,adultry,fornication,etc,does anyone think we should have good Shepard's?🤪
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
I think Schneider is wrong.
Seabass
So what was all of Our Lord's talk about false shepherds then? He didn't say these things without reason...I'll stick with Him and His Saints.
Brendan Davies
Being a false shepherd doesn't mean you're not a legitimate shepherd! Just a bad one... sorry but there's no clear sign from Our Lord or His Saints that Francis isn't the Pope. That's a tempting thought, but I'm afraid that simply hasn't happened as yet...
Seabass
I'm sorry to disagree with you, Brendan.
Ivan Tomas
I strongly and completely disagree with you on this, your excellency.
The entire Church and the whole world is day after day being scandalising by him who doesn't seems to be a legitimate pope, in first place.
And you keep coming with this...!?
You're a bishop in good standing, Deo gratias, and we know that and we love you as such, and you know that too. Therefore you should do better your best to …More
I strongly and completely disagree with you on this, your excellency.
The entire Church and the whole world is day after day being scandalising by him who doesn't seems to be a legitimate pope, in first place.
And you keep coming with this...!?
You're a bishop in good standing, Deo gratias, and we know that and we love you as such, and you know that too. Therefore you should do better your best to defend the Church. To defend the Truth.

"[T]he Pope... WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See."
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)

Saint Robert Bellarmine: "The Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church."
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You really should know better.
Ask bishop Gracida. Ask bishop Lenga, he was your teacher, wasn't he?
Brendan Davies
Not sure you've clarified much by this. So the Pope "[...] must be delcared deposed by the Church". So who has the authority to speak for the Church in this case? A bunch of lay people??
Ivan Tomas
Learn your faith.
The Catholic Church is not just a pope. Certainly not an antipope.
The Catholic Church is not just a pope and a lay people.
Ever heard about a College of Cardinals? Ever heard about Catholic Bishops? Ever heard about Imperfect Council?
Ever heard about Saint Catharina of Siena?
Learn your faith.
Brendan Davies
Yes I've heard about the College of Cardinals and Bishops too! And I haven't heard any of them declare that Francis isn't the Pope, have you?
Ivan Tomas
Have you ever seen a dead deer, run over by a train?
Did you then wait for the policeman to come and declare him dead, so you would consider him dead?
123jussi
Opinions are just that,the reality is that Francis is Pope and he is not going to leave voluntarily and there is no one who can throw him out. Until God takes him he is just what we deserve ,in office or out of office he is there.
LiveJohn
@123jussi What if the Conclave that elected the Francis was invalid to begin with? Pope John Paul II's 1996 Apostolic Constitution Universi Dominici Gregis (Papal Bull) does not rule out the election to office of an apostate candidate. Moreover that important document was carefully designed to prevent such an event from happening - provided the cardinal electors comply with its content.
Live Mike
Said the good company man. (Deeply sighs). Your Excellency, if given the choice between your opinion and that of Saint, Cardinal, Doctor of the Church - Robert Bellarmine... I'll choose his over yours every time, all the time as my guide for what is right. Thank you very much.
Seabass
Aren't 'company men' also 'hirelings'? Hmmm...🤔
Brendan Davies
So Bellamine told us Pope Francis was a heretic and lost the papacy then? I don't think it's that black and white sorry.
Live Mike
@Brendan Davies Perhaps you should learn what St. Robert Bellarmine actually did say about such circumstances for your own edification.
Brendan Davies
I've seen his quotes and am edified thank you :-). What I don't see, even in his quotes, is any authority given to lay people, such as yourself to decide any given Pope isn't validly Pope. For something as significant as this, I would expect something infallibly declared by the Church's hierarchy. Is there anything I've missed?