Novus Ordo Crumbles: "I'll Let Lay People Say Parts of the Eucharistic Prayer"
The official news website of the Swiss bishops rejoices that lay people preside at the Novus Ordo Eucharist, after the same bishops have just stated that lay people “cannot do this.” To this end, the …More
The official news website of the Swiss bishops rejoices that lay people preside at the Novus Ordo Eucharist, after the same bishops have just stated that lay people “cannot do this.”
To this end, the website uses Father Marcel von Holzen of Guthirt Parish in Zurich-Wipkingen, a former dean.
His Eucharist does not depend on "reading down the liturgy", he slogans, but "on our hearts" - whatever that means.
For him, the liturgy is a "field of experimentation" because the [failed] Novus Ordo of Vatican II was also a "field of experimentation". One must "take into account the reality of a changed [= collapsed] Church,” von Holzen insists.
He wants the bishops to "keep more in step with Francis" and "solve regional questions regionally as well" - because for von Holzen, Christ's sacraments differ from province to province.
There is "a Swiss tradition" which "shapes the liturgy," he is convinced; however, the Society of St. Pius X also hails from Switzerland.
For von Holzen, only "epiclesis,…More
To this end, the website uses Father Marcel von Holzen of Guthirt Parish in Zurich-Wipkingen, a former dean.
His Eucharist does not depend on "reading down the liturgy", he slogans, but "on our hearts" - whatever that means.
For him, the liturgy is a "field of experimentation" because the [failed] Novus Ordo of Vatican II was also a "field of experimentation". One must "take into account the reality of a changed [= collapsed] Church,” von Holzen insists.
He wants the bishops to "keep more in step with Francis" and "solve regional questions regionally as well" - because for von Holzen, Christ's sacraments differ from province to province.
There is "a Swiss tradition" which "shapes the liturgy," he is convinced; however, the Society of St. Pius X also hails from Switzerland.
For von Holzen, only "epiclesis,…More
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So glad that these people are Catholic anymore, if they ever were.
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My parish in 1950's up until 1964 had 6 Sunday Masses, and probably about 85-90% of the Marish went to Mass.
With the Novus Ordo, since we've lived in the area (my Mom and Dad since 1986 when they got married....me since I was born, 1994) we've seen Masses go from 4 (1986), to 2 today, and still, only 1 is filled. And next to no one went to the Saturday 5:00pm Mass until they canceled it. So much …More
My parish in 1950's up until 1964 had 6 Sunday Masses, and probably about 85-90% of the Marish went to Mass.
With the Novus Ordo, since we've lived in the area (my Mom and Dad since 1986 when they got married....me since I was born, 1994) we've seen Masses go from 4 (1986), to 2 today, and still, only 1 is filled. And next to no one went to the Saturday 5:00pm Mass until they canceled it. So much for the Novus Ordo
With the Novus Ordo, since we've lived in the area (my Mom and Dad since 1986 when they got married....me since I was born, 1994) we've seen Masses go from 4 (1986), to 2 today, and still, only 1 is filled. And next to no one went to the Saturday 5:00pm Mass until they canceled it. So much for the Novus Ordo