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Pagliarani: Mass For Everyone - No Negotiations

The Society of PiusX fights for the Roman Mass not only for themselves but unconditionally for every priest and for the universal Church, Father Pagliarani explained (transcript of the English January 15 talk in Paris on Traditiones Custodes below).

PiusX doesn't simply want to receive a little side altar or to become part of an amphitheatre where everything else is also permitted. Pagliarani doesn't ask for particular privileges because “this mass is a right for us and for all souls without exception.”

Therefore, PiusX doesn’t want to negotiate to obtain, little by little, some concessions so that they may be given a church here or a slot for Mass there, or may be allowed to use a maniple, a biretta or the Holy Week liturgy.

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Dobry wykład ks. Pagliaraniego.

Ultraviolet

@Stronzo Santelli Obviously you don't know the difference between a sedevacantist and a schismatic. Yes, you really are THAT dumb. :P

Angelo Santelli

Be careful, Father, otherwise poster ultradark will call you a sedevacantist. LOL

Ultraviolet

@Mathathias Maccabeus Still, you have to admit it's kind of funny watching anyone make a fool out of themselves THIS badly, especially when they pretend they're a.) a Ph.D. and b.) a priest c.) even Catholic. :D

mccallansteve

The traditional Mass is the birthright of every Catholic. Popes have tried but they have no authority to negate it. The Novus Ordo should be the birthright of protestants

Jan Joseph

Pater Pagliarani van de SSPX is niet gecapituleerd voor de eisen van Paus Franciscus. Dit betekent dat het Schisma definitief is en de SSPX vrij is van Rome. In Duitsland is ook een Schisma gaande over de synodale kerk. Dit betekent dat er een Groot Schisma in de Rooms Katholieke kerk komt. Paus Franciscus is hiervoor verantwoordelijk en zal daardoor snel moeten aftreden. Eind 2022 hebben de Traditionele Rooms Katholieken een nieuwe Paus.

Jan Joseph

Geweldig. Duidelijk taal van pater Pagliarani. Alle Rooms Katholieke gelovigen hebben het recht om de Tridentijnse of Romeinse Heilige Mis bij te wonen en te vieren. Iedere priester of bisschop die hieraan niet wil meewerken moet in de lekenstand teruggezet worden. Het vervolgen van de Tridentijnse of Romeinse Rooms Katholieken, zoals nu vaak plaatsvindt, is in strijdt met de rechten van de mens.

Rand Miller

The same old line from the SSPX.
Better to be Wrong with the Pope - or Right with Tradition against Him? Response to the SSPX

Better to be right with tradition in union with the SSPX, rather than be wrong with a heretic Pope and Vatican who promote a protestantized liturgy and allow for and even promote (as example the Zanchetta case), active and practicing and abusing homosexuals.

Ultraviolet

Protip: The Pope ins't a "heretic" according to The Church's definition of the term. You're almost as bad as Jimmy. :P

123jussi

In reality they are de facto the Churches leadership! Someone has to step up!

Correct. The SSPX represents true Catholic teaching and leadership. Francis and company are heretics. Francis doesn't even have the spine to blame Russia for the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian Orthodox Church is garbage, and yet Francis is in love with the idea of meeting with them.

sarto2010

@michael newman Quisling.

Ultraviolet

You don't fight for the Catholic Mass by leaving the Catholic Church and separating yourself from The Church's leadership.

The Church's leadership is SSPX, not the false Pope Francis and his Vatican filled with homosexuals like Zanchetta. For every 1 Zanchetta, there are probably 3 more hinding out in some office in the Vatican of Pope Francis. They started infiltrating under Paul VI and JPII. Benedict XVI tried removing them and paid the price....but they're back tripple strength under Francis.

Ultraviolet

Don't be rediculous. The SSPX are schismatics and not even in communion with The Church. All that radiation from Fukushima really put the zap on your brains.