Bishop Eleganti: There Are Reasonable Doubts About Francis
Francis' responses to the five dubia does not stand up to Christ's demand that a yes is a yes and a no is a no, writes Bishop Marian Eleganti OSB, 68, a former Auxiliary of Chur, Switzerland, in a …More
Francis' responses to the five dubia does not stand up to Christ's demand that a yes is a yes and a no is a no, writes Bishop Marian Eleganti OSB, 68, a former Auxiliary of Chur, Switzerland, in a October 4 statement.
There are irrefutable truths that are not culturally or historically conditioned, as modernism still believed ("the end of truth”), he wrote. Eleganti's examples could serve as answers to the cardinals' dubia:
• God created man as male and female.
• Homosexuality, transvestitism, surrogacy, heterogamy, artificial procreation and child trafficking in the case of infertility contradict God's order of creation and are objectively sinful.
• Homosexual concubinage cannot be blessed because God does not bless objectively sinful behaviour.
• The prerequisites for divine forgiveness are recognition, repentance and the will to renounce sin.
• The Church has no authority to ordain women to the priesthood.
• A synod has no teaching authority, but only an advisory function. • The …More
There are irrefutable truths that are not culturally or historically conditioned, as modernism still believed ("the end of truth”), he wrote. Eleganti's examples could serve as answers to the cardinals' dubia:
• God created man as male and female.
• Homosexuality, transvestitism, surrogacy, heterogamy, artificial procreation and child trafficking in the case of infertility contradict God's order of creation and are objectively sinful.
• Homosexual concubinage cannot be blessed because God does not bless objectively sinful behaviour.
• The prerequisites for divine forgiveness are recognition, repentance and the will to renounce sin.
• The Church has no authority to ordain women to the priesthood.
• A synod has no teaching authority, but only an advisory function. • The …More
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Deuteronomy 22:5
“A woman must not put on men’s clothing, and a man must not wear women’s clothing. Anyone who does this is detestable in the sight of the LORD your God.More
Deuteronomy 22:5
“A woman must not put on men’s clothing, and a man must not wear women’s clothing. Anyone who does this is detestable in the sight of the LORD your God.
“A woman must not put on men’s clothing, and a man must not wear women’s clothing. Anyone who does this is detestable in the sight of the LORD your God.
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Another great cartoon.
There is a path out of this mess.
1. It is not sedevacantism. We were told we would get bad leaders. To say, just because this or that one is bad, they are not leaders makes God a liar.
2. We all need to be better catechised, all of us. What is the church? What is the role of the Pope? The Pope does not create doctrine, he protects it and passes it on. There is no “evolution of doctrine”. That is …More
There is a path out of this mess.
1. It is not sedevacantism. We were told we would get bad leaders. To say, just because this or that one is bad, they are not leaders makes God a liar.
2. We all need to be better catechised, all of us. What is the church? What is the role of the Pope? The Pope does not create doctrine, he protects it and passes it on. There is no “evolution of doctrine”. That is foreign to the Church. When a pope, bishop or priest tries to foist something new, they are simply wrong. And when someone is wrong, you don’t need to debate with them. You just ignore them.
3. Pray for them. They are committing an extreme evil and will suffer unimaginable tortures if they don’t repent.
4. Study and then practice the faith of the ages.
1. It is not sedevacantism. We were told we would get bad leaders. To say, just because this or that one is bad, they are not leaders makes God a liar.
2. We all need to be better catechised, all of us. What is the church? What is the role of the Pope? The Pope does not create doctrine, he protects it and passes it on. There is no “evolution of doctrine”. That is foreign to the Church. When a pope, bishop or priest tries to foist something new, they are simply wrong. And when someone is wrong, you don’t need to debate with them. You just ignore them.
3. Pray for them. They are committing an extreme evil and will suffer unimaginable tortures if they don’t repent.
4. Study and then practice the faith of the ages.
You wrote ''they are not leaders makes God a liar''
Au contraire!
God never said there will be no anti-pope.
The coming of the major False Prophet (aka the Second Beast, Rev. 13:11) during the end times is clearly specified in the New Testament.More
You wrote ''they are not leaders makes God a liar''
Au contraire!
God never said there will be no anti-pope.
The coming of the major False Prophet (aka the Second Beast, Rev. 13:11) during the end times is clearly specified in the New Testament.
Au contraire!
God never said there will be no anti-pope.
The coming of the major False Prophet (aka the Second Beast, Rev. 13:11) during the end times is clearly specified in the New Testament.
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@Adrien Have you seen this? It contains an awful lot of information.
Antichrist Identified! He’s NOT Who You Think…
@Caroline03 Thank you for the link.
Keeping in mind that the Antichrist and the False Prophet are two distinct individuals, I can assure you that King Charles III is not the Antichrist (the First Beast in the book of Revelation).
-Charles III is not a homosexual (Daniel 11:37).
-Charles III didn't have a first coming as a ruler of a powerful nation to then be wounded in his action before his second …More
@Caroline03 Thank you for the link.
Keeping in mind that the Antichrist and the False Prophet are two distinct individuals, I can assure you that King Charles III is not the Antichrist (the First Beast in the book of Revelation).
-Charles III is not a homosexual (Daniel 11:37).
-Charles III didn't have a first coming as a ruler of a powerful nation to then be wounded in his action before his second coming.
-He is not a genuine ruler, therefore he has no great power, unlike the Antichrist (Rev.13:2).
-He was already in the UK, so he didn't come out of the sea to sit on his throne; like traveling through the sea from one continent to the other (Rev.13:1).
Everyone thinks that 666 will be the number of the Antichrist's name, but in the book of Revelation, the beast has this number because it's the number of his mark (the microchip implant) and the book of Revelation says this number is also the number of a man; Nero Caesar, persecutor of Christians. A fit type of the then future Antichrist.
Keeping in mind that the Antichrist and the False Prophet are two distinct individuals, I can assure you that King Charles III is not the Antichrist (the First Beast in the book of Revelation).
-Charles III is not a homosexual (Daniel 11:37).
-Charles III didn't have a first coming as a ruler of a powerful nation to then be wounded in his action before his second coming.
-He is not a genuine ruler, therefore he has no great power, unlike the Antichrist (Rev.13:2).
-He was already in the UK, so he didn't come out of the sea to sit on his throne; like traveling through the sea from one continent to the other (Rev.13:1).
Everyone thinks that 666 will be the number of the Antichrist's name, but in the book of Revelation, the beast has this number because it's the number of his mark (the microchip implant) and the book of Revelation says this number is also the number of a man; Nero Caesar, persecutor of Christians. A fit type of the then future Antichrist.
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@Adrien Did you give Tim Cohen all that information?
I don't know of that - The word Antichrist doesn't appear in the Apocalypse at all - but Tim Cohen explained why he thinks one it is the same person as the Beast. I can't actually recall what he said or what reasons he gave for identifying him with the Beast. BUT, I DO REMEMBER - the statue he showed in the video - the one with the title "P. …More
@Adrien Did you give Tim Cohen all that information?
I don't know of that - The word Antichrist doesn't appear in the Apocalypse at all - but Tim Cohen explained why he thinks one it is the same person as the Beast. I can't actually recall what he said or what reasons he gave for identifying him with the Beast. BUT, I DO REMEMBER - the statue he showed in the video - the one with the title "P. Charles Saviour of the World "(the BBC Guardian and DT have archived articles about it)
Charles, winged and saving the world
acceleration1111.blogspot.com/2011/11/waking-dragon.html
Someone has pointed out that it matches exactly something that Our Lady said at La Salette to Melanie in 1846 ....
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"Now is the time; the abyss is opening. Here is the King of Kings of darkness, here is the Beast with his subjects, calling himself the Saviour of the world.."
Internet History Sourcebooks: Modern History
So, all in all it's very odd indeed. If it's not him, we need to tell Our Lady....![😬](/emoji/f09f98ac)
I don't know of that - The word Antichrist doesn't appear in the Apocalypse at all - but Tim Cohen explained why he thinks one it is the same person as the Beast. I can't actually recall what he said or what reasons he gave for identifying him with the Beast. BUT, I DO REMEMBER - the statue he showed in the video - the one with the title "P. Charles Saviour of the World "(the BBC Guardian and DT have archived articles about it)
Charles, winged and saving the world
acceleration1111.blogspot.com/2011/11/waking-dragon.html
Someone has pointed out that it matches exactly something that Our Lady said at La Salette to Melanie in 1846 ....
"Now is the time; the abyss is opening. Here is the King of Kings of darkness, here is the Beast with his subjects, calling himself the Saviour of the world.."
Internet History Sourcebooks: Modern History
So, all in all it's very odd indeed. If it's not him, we need to tell Our Lady....
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@Caroline03 If you believe Charles III is the ''man of wickedness'', it is not an obstacle to your salvation.
God's prophecies reveal the final outcome, in the meantime, evil men can have many plans, but they don't know the future. Napoleon Bonaparte was supposed to be the Antichrist; the conqueror of the world, they made a ceremony for his ''consecration'' at the feet of the pyramids in Egypt, …More
@Caroline03 If you believe Charles III is the ''man of wickedness'', it is not an obstacle to your salvation.
God's prophecies reveal the final outcome, in the meantime, evil men can have many plans, but they don't know the future. Napoleon Bonaparte was supposed to be the Antichrist; the conqueror of the world, they made a ceremony for his ''consecration'' at the feet of the pyramids in Egypt, but he failed.
''Savior of the world''.
You see, evil hidden organizations are using all the tools available to execute their plans, including compliments, flattery, bloated praise, grandiose naming, unreal titles. Why? It is much easier to have one's compliance, willing submission or vassalage, than using force against him or to invade his country.
That being said, the Antichrist will be assisted by ten kings (Daniel 7:24), so a lot of staff will be needed!
God's prophecies reveal the final outcome, in the meantime, evil men can have many plans, but they don't know the future. Napoleon Bonaparte was supposed to be the Antichrist; the conqueror of the world, they made a ceremony for his ''consecration'' at the feet of the pyramids in Egypt, but he failed.
''Savior of the world''.
You see, evil hidden organizations are using all the tools available to execute their plans, including compliments, flattery, bloated praise, grandiose naming, unreal titles. Why? It is much easier to have one's compliance, willing submission or vassalage, than using force against him or to invade his country.
That being said, the Antichrist will be assisted by ten kings (Daniel 7:24), so a lot of staff will be needed!
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@Adrien Tim Cohen presents a very interesting case. The footage on the video of the 2022 UK Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremony resembled obvious simulated Moloch worship at Birmingham, England in front of thousands of onlookers and was clearly meant to look Satanic. It Looked like authorized Satanism. He gave his stamp of approval by being there and never objecting to what was in play. Yes, Birmingham …More
@Adrien Tim Cohen presents a very interesting case. The footage on the video of the 2022 UK Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremony resembled obvious simulated Moloch worship at Birmingham, England in front of thousands of onlookers and was clearly meant to look Satanic. It Looked like authorized Satanism. He gave his stamp of approval by being there and never objecting to what was in play. Yes, Birmingham, UK DOES have an area called the Bull Ring Shopping Centre which suggests historically that at some period of time Bull fighting took place there, but that public event made USE of that past history and ran with it turning the association with "bull fighting" into some kind of gross wicked Satanic ritualistic manifestation. It is there on the video for everyone to see. Look at it! Thousands of people there. It doesn't look good does it?
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@Caroline03 I agree, it doesn't look good!
With all Jorge has said, done & written over the last 10 years, I have no doubts.....it is manifest that he is a heretic.....manifest to all orthodox Catholics with the 'sensus fidelium', that he is a pertinaceous & serial heretic, on many points of unchangeable doctrine. He is therefore no longer Catholic. And just as the Dalai Lama cannot be the Pope because he is not Catholic,,,,the same holds …More
With all Jorge has said, done & written over the last 10 years, I have no doubts.....it is manifest that he is a heretic.....manifest to all orthodox Catholics with the 'sensus fidelium', that he is a pertinaceous & serial heretic, on many points of unchangeable doctrine. He is therefore no longer Catholic. And just as the Dalai Lama cannot be the Pope because he is not Catholic,,,,the same holds for Jorgy!!!!
Anyone out there not get that???
I still remain flabbergasted that so many in the hierarchy and Catholic commentator group, who seem to accept that a Pope can give people the green light for sacrilegious Communion as per Amoris Laetitia....and still be a Valid Pope...... Staggering!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone out there not get that???
I still remain flabbergasted that so many in the hierarchy and Catholic commentator group, who seem to accept that a Pope can give people the green light for sacrilegious Communion as per Amoris Laetitia....and still be a Valid Pope...... Staggering!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Tony M -I agree. It's impossible to believe that 1-2 people who post here (and I won't name them/shame them) in the past at least have always rushed to the defense of Pope Francis no matter what heresy he spouted off, always trying to defend him or cover up for him or explain everything away as if to say "he really didn't mean that...."
He sure did and does. Bergoglio is a 100% heretic, apostate,…More
@Tony M -I agree. It's impossible to believe that 1-2 people who post here (and I won't name them/shame them) in the past at least have always rushed to the defense of Pope Francis no matter what heresy he spouted off, always trying to defend him or cover up for him or explain everything away as if to say "he really didn't mean that...."
He sure did and does. Bergoglio is a 100% heretic, apostate, and homosexualist. He is hellbent (no pun intended) on destroying the Catholic Church before he's through.
But I think his "Synod" is going to blow up in his face, and all his supporters. Already, there are more than just the 5 Cardinals who signed the Dubia coming out to basically question Bergoglio's motives and saying he's a heretic. And Cardinal Burke said that there are many more brother Cardinals who agree with those who signed the Dubia, but did not sign it themselves. I wish they had.
Every day, I think more and more bishops around the world, and Cardinals even, will speak up to question and condemn this synod....and by extension condemn Francis for his agenda, and for supporting the idea of the synod.
I think Francis' days are numbered with regard to being a respected and "obeyed" Pope. And his days probably are numbered physically too.![😂](/emoji/f09f9882)
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He sure did and does. Bergoglio is a 100% heretic, apostate, and homosexualist. He is hellbent (no pun intended) on destroying the Catholic Church before he's through.
But I think his "Synod" is going to blow up in his face, and all his supporters. Already, there are more than just the 5 Cardinals who signed the Dubia coming out to basically question Bergoglio's motives and saying he's a heretic. And Cardinal Burke said that there are many more brother Cardinals who agree with those who signed the Dubia, but did not sign it themselves. I wish they had.
Every day, I think more and more bishops around the world, and Cardinals even, will speak up to question and condemn this synod....and by extension condemn Francis for his agenda, and for supporting the idea of the synod.
I think Francis' days are numbered with regard to being a respected and "obeyed" Pope. And his days probably are numbered physically too.
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God bless this Bishop for speaking the truth about Francis. And the Church and Francis are in for a surprise. He won't be the last standing up against Francis........the wave is coming to crash down on Francis and Tucho and the rest very hard.
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Yes, yes, or perhaps not: Francis raised more doubts than the Dubia