Roche Attempts to Save Traditionis Custodes By Spreading Falsehoods
The "normal form" of the Roman Rite is found in the documents published since Vatican II, Archbishop Arthur Roche, the Liturgy Prefect, told TvSvizzera.it (November 14). Roche repeats the falsehood …More
The "normal form" of the Roman Rite is found in the documents published since Vatican II, Archbishop Arthur Roche, the Liturgy Prefect, told TvSvizzera.it (November 14).
Roche repeats the falsehood that the Ecclesia Dei Commission and Benedict’s Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum were established in order to encourage the Society of PiusX to return to full unity.
For Roche, Francis’ Traditionis Custodes is saying, “Okay, this experiment has not entirely been successful." Therefore, “Let us go back to what the council required of the Church.”
“What was produced in 1570 was entirely appropriate for the time," Roche fabulates, "What is produced in this age is also entirely appropriate for the time.”
Roche’s claims contain four gross errors:
1. Benedict XVI declared several times that he did NOT issue Summorum Pontificum to reach unity with PiusX.
2. The 1969 Novus Ordo is NOT the liturgical reform of Vatican II which was expressed in the short-lived 1965 Roman Missal.
3. The Roman Rite …More
Roche repeats the falsehood that the Ecclesia Dei Commission and Benedict’s Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum were established in order to encourage the Society of PiusX to return to full unity.
For Roche, Francis’ Traditionis Custodes is saying, “Okay, this experiment has not entirely been successful." Therefore, “Let us go back to what the council required of the Church.”
“What was produced in 1570 was entirely appropriate for the time," Roche fabulates, "What is produced in this age is also entirely appropriate for the time.”
Roche’s claims contain four gross errors:
1. Benedict XVI declared several times that he did NOT issue Summorum Pontificum to reach unity with PiusX.
2. The 1969 Novus Ordo is NOT the liturgical reform of Vatican II which was expressed in the short-lived 1965 Roman Missal.
3. The Roman Rite …More
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Every interview Pope Benedict gave, every book and even the text of Summorum, said it was explicitly not about that. I wonder do the current cronies in the Vatican think they have a time machine or perhaps an amnesia ray, to lie to us so bold-facedly?
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Why does Pope Benedict not say anything, if he is still alive? Confusing.
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Gross Error #5. There is no such thing as a "normal form" of the Mass. There is an "ordinary form" and an "extraordinary form".
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So, does he think that, if the SSPX had entered “full communion” that they would have adopted the Novus ordo? This would certainly justify their lack of trust. These people are utterly corrupt, aside from not being very bright.
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Vatican Archbishop: Traditional Latin Mass ‘Experiment’ Not Successful in Reconciling SSPX
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“It’s clear that Traditionis custodes is saying: OK, this experiment has not entirely been successful. And so, let us go back to what the [Second Vatican] Council required of the Church.”
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Does Roche know that once lived pope Pius V and his bull Quo primum tempore applies for all times?
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He also ignores Benedict’s own words that the lifting of restrictions as a concession to SSPX was not its primary reason. In fact he says to this charge: “That is absolutely false.”