The Vision of the Saint Don Bosco about persecution of the Church in the end time
On the 30th of May, 1862, according to the evening prayer, Don Bosco, in front of his co-workers and boys gathered in the chapel of the Turin oratorio, spoke of a vision which had been given him a short …More
On the 30th of May, 1862, according to the evening prayer, Don Bosco, in front of his co-workers and boys gathered in the chapel of the Turin oratorio, spoke of a vision which had been given him a short time before:
Imagine, we are on the coast of the sea or better still on a lonely cliff, and see no land but the ground beneath our feet. On the wide sea we see an innumerable multitude of ships that have arranged for a sea battle. They have iron bowls and are equipped with guns, guns, other weapons of all kinds, with burners, and also with books. They approach a ship that is much bigger than theirs and try to damage it with their pointed beaks, light it, and inflict every possible harm to it. The large ship is accompanied by many small boats, which receive orders from him and defend the majestic ship against the enemy fleet. They have strong winds and the turbulent sea seems to favor the attackers.
In the middle of the wide sea are two powerful columns at a small distance from each other. …More
Imagine, we are on the coast of the sea or better still on a lonely cliff, and see no land but the ground beneath our feet. On the wide sea we see an innumerable multitude of ships that have arranged for a sea battle. They have iron bowls and are equipped with guns, guns, other weapons of all kinds, with burners, and also with books. They approach a ship that is much bigger than theirs and try to damage it with their pointed beaks, light it, and inflict every possible harm to it. The large ship is accompanied by many small boats, which receive orders from him and defend the majestic ship against the enemy fleet. They have strong winds and the turbulent sea seems to favor the attackers.
In the middle of the wide sea are two powerful columns at a small distance from each other. …More
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Theresia Katharina "The condition that the Gospel is preached everywhere is fulfilled!" is a matter of opinion. As for the Great Monarch (King - in English the terms are equivalent) yes it is 'prophecy' but then so is the Book of Revelations in so far as it speaks of the future. My point is that we are safest when we read Scripture through the Tradition of the Church and there is a consistent …More
Theresia Katharina "The condition that the Gospel is preached everywhere is fulfilled!" is a matter of opinion. As for the Great Monarch (King - in English the terms are equivalent) yes it is 'prophecy' but then so is the Book of Revelations in so far as it speaks of the future. My point is that we are safest when we read Scripture through the Tradition of the Church and there is a consistent message in that tradition. Again I recommend Birch's book wherein he presents his research.
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@BrTomFordeOFMCap Do you mean the "Great Monarch" with the "Great King"? There is a prophecy, that he will come after the 3 dark days of cleaning and he will lead back the hole christianity to the kingdom of Jesus Christ! After the 3 days the followers of Satan are no more alive! The condition that the Gospel is preached everywhere is fulfilled!
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Theresia Katharina Your English is fine. There is a long tradition of Catholic interpretation of the Book of Revelation. We are safest when we stick close to that tradition. There have been bad Popes before. One of the conditions for the coming of Antichrist is that the Gospel should be preached everywhere yet there are many parts of the world where the Gospel has yet to be heard. Another thing to …More
Theresia Katharina Your English is fine. There is a long tradition of Catholic interpretation of the Book of Revelation. We are safest when we stick close to that tradition. There have been bad Popes before. One of the conditions for the coming of Antichrist is that the Gospel should be preached everywhere yet there are many parts of the world where the Gospel has yet to be heard. Another thing to remember is that Catholic prophecy has long held that the Antichrist will come after the reign of the Great King i.e. a French king who will help convert the world to the Catholic Faith. I don't know if Birch's book is in German but if your English is good enough I recommend it.
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@BrTomFordeOFMCap I don't think so. I mean, that we have entered into this last times and I presume that Pope F is the False Prophet of the Bible! But there will become later an new springtime also for the church under the kingdom of Our God Jesus Christ! Why do you think that the conditions are not fulfilled? Excuse, my English is not perfect, because I am German!
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Theresia Katharina I would suggest that you read Birch's Trial, Tribulation and Triumph in which the author presents his research into what approved Catholic saints and mystics have said about the end times. Too much of our thinking today is influenced by protestantism. According to Birch we have not yet fulfilled all the conditions required for us to be in those times. I am reminded of St John …More
Theresia Katharina I would suggest that you read Birch's Trial, Tribulation and Triumph in which the author presents his research into what approved Catholic saints and mystics have said about the end times. Too much of our thinking today is influenced by protestantism. According to Birch we have not yet fulfilled all the conditions required for us to be in those times. I am reminded of St John Paul's belief that the Church is entering into a 'new springtime'. If things are bad in the Church and the world at the moment it is because we are still in a severe Winter.
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The False Prophet of the Bible, therefore, looks like a lamb, but speaks like a dragon, spreads Satan's opinion, and so is the wolf in the sheep's fleece
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The end time is when the False Prophet and the Antichrist appear, the False Prophet being the pioneer of the Antichrist.
Revelation Chapter 13, verses 11-15:
11 And I saw another beast rising out of the earth: and it had two horns like a lamb, and it spake as a dragon. 12 And all the power of the first beast (of the Antichrist) prevails before him, and the …More
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The end time is when the False Prophet and the Antichrist appear, the False Prophet being the pioneer of the Antichrist.
Revelation Chapter 13, verses 11-15:
11 And I saw another beast rising out of the earth: and it had two horns like a lamb, and it spake as a dragon. 12 And all the power of the first beast (of the Antichrist) prevails before him, and the earth, and those that dwell upon it, will worship the first beast whose wound was healed. 13 And it is a great sign that it will bring down fire from heaven to the earth before men.
The end time is when the False Prophet and the Antichrist appear, the False Prophet being the pioneer of the Antichrist.
Revelation Chapter 13, verses 11-15:
11 And I saw another beast rising out of the earth: and it had two horns like a lamb, and it spake as a dragon. 12 And all the power of the first beast (of the Antichrist) prevails before him, and the earth, and those that dwell upon it, will worship the first beast whose wound was healed. 13 And it is a great sign that it will bring down fire from heaven to the earth before men.
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The Pope is this vision could refer to more than one holder of that office. After all hasn't the Church been undergoing this assault for a long time now? The first time the Pope is shot and is helped back up could refer to St John Paul's wounding. If the Pope being shot a second time is a different many, as I think, then there is yet to be a successful assassination or murder of a Pope followed …More
The Pope is this vision could refer to more than one holder of that office. After all hasn't the Church been undergoing this assault for a long time now? The first time the Pope is shot and is helped back up could refer to St John Paul's wounding. If the Pope being shot a second time is a different many, as I think, then there is yet to be a successful assassination or murder of a Pope followed immediately by a successor who will succeed in anchoring the Church to the Worship of our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament and the devotion to our Lady, Help of Christians. Seeing the defeat of the Church's enemies all the other Christians will become Catholics and a time of peace will be given to the Church and the world. That's my take on it.
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The one column is crowned by a statue of Immaculata, at the foot of which is inscribed the inscription: Auxilium christianorum = (Help of the Christians), on the second, much higher and more powerful column, we see the words Salus credentium (Salvation of the faithful). We must be chained to these two pillars, then we will surrender all persecution!