Two corrections (canonical )and not she but (he ) I have to spend more time reading what I wright in the future
Sorry Guys i didnt want to be so tecnical or canocal , i just wanted to give my opinion since he is not following the church teachings may she should not be listened to ,Sorry again
Bishop Strickland said that Cardinal Marx has apostatized, So from now on you need to listen to C.Marx anymore
"Try not to engage with trolls. Eventually they’ll run out of steam (or take their medication)"
Have you @michael newman? Reason I'm asking you've already met every criteria YOU previously gave for a "troll"
Correct. Maar de gelovigen die het Evangelie, de Tien Geboden en de Zeven Sacramenten van ons mooie Rooms Katholieke geloof nog eerbiedigen, willen beslist wel dat kardinaal Marx de Rooms Katholieke onmiddellijk verlaat.
@Ultraviolet See, this is why you should just be quiet. You don't know anything about the case. Not. A. Thing. In fact the "victim" sells nude pics of herself on porno website that are run by her father. The defendant is a man with the intellect of a 7 year old.
I asked for prayers for my friend and her family who are truly suffering. If this were a cut and dry case I never would've asked for that prayer. But that is YOU projecting your hatred on to me.
You are an evil, evil little person who is so consumed with hate for me personally that you'll bear false witness and actually call ME a pedophile and a groomer, which is 100 percent libel and more than that completely Satanic instead of seeing the humanity in this case.
This is how I know you don't take your faith seriously. And this is how I know you don't go to confession. And this is how I know you're a fraud.
And you will never get rid of me. You've called down the thunder, to quote a cowboy movie, a now you've got it.
I will always call you out.
"I asked for prayers for my friend and her family who are truly suffering."
...and as always, NONE for the 13 year old victim.
"But that is YOU projecting your hatred on to me."
Jimmy being Jimmy.
"asking for prayers for a family going through hell" @Jacque LaFleur -implying the victim's family ISN'T going through hell, only the pedophile's family after he got caught.
@Jimmy akaJacque LaFleur "if that person had actually defended a pedophile and "child groomer" You ARE "that person" and the reason you have a first-hand knowledge of what the family is going through is BECAUSE you're "that person". -and he did defend a pedo-child groomer as Matty's screen-cap shows. Poor boy! He has the mentality of 7 year old. That's a defense, Jimmy.
@Ultraviolet this "general definition" is included in the Catholic definition. Cardinal Marx could have sex with another man on the altar and you would defend him. You defend all immoral actions by claiming we have no "authority" to call them immoral. That's all this is.
Your biggest lie is that these accusations are "baseless". Only a coward and/or approver of these actions would say these accusations are "baseless".
If you actually used Catholic sources, Canon Law, scripture and Church teaching, you'd say the same things, or most certainly entertain the notion. But "baseless"?
Are you even Catholic?
@Ultraviolet this "general definition" is included in the Catholic definition.
No it isn't. The Catholic definition of Apostasy quoted in Canon Law is a single sentence and doesn't include anything else. It doesn't apply here.
"Cardinal Marx could have sex with another man on the altar and you would defend him."
Here we go! Jimmy rhetoric, Jimmy hyberbole, Jimmy lies. :D For a 157 IQ, you have an incredibly small debating play-book. :P
"You defend all immoral actions by claiming we have no "authority" to call them immoral."
I claim nothing of the sort. I just say you aren't the The Catholic Church and whatever asnine manure falls out of your mouth isn't official Church policy, that's all.
Typical Jimbo. False summaries, sweeping generalizations, and outright BS.
"Only a coward and/or approver of these actions would say these accusations are "baseless".
Jimmy and his "coward" canard. Also this: Pic related.
"If you actually used Catholic sources, Canon Law,"
My first comment on the post: word for word FIVE HOURS AGO "That isn't how "apostasy" works according to Canon Law 751 and Bishop Strickland should know better."
Go take some Ambien and say some more prayers for your child-molesting family friend.
@Jacque LaFleur Linking a general definition does not show it applies. Common "referral" tactic to cover a baseless claim . ;-)
Apostasy describes Marx quite well. Here's a Catholic source for Miss Manners @ultraviolet.
BTW: Micheal Newman is FAR more interested in "manners" than myself. At least until he gets hot under the collar and drops that charade.
Irony: defending Catholic apostates heretics by accusing the accusers of not being Catholic enough.
@michael newman your definition is actually fine, it aligns with Catholic sources.
@Mathathias Maccabeus That isn't a concern for @michael newman . Jimmy isn't debunking the SSPX agenda-peddlars around here and the so-called "trolls" do.
Michael Newman's comments show he's an SSPX sympathizer, so it's natural he adopts agenda-peddlar tactics. Keep accusing anyone who debunks your agenda of being a "troll".
Doesn't matter if it's the GTVJew-haters, the Benedict Buddies, or the SSPX. They're all resort to literally the tactic and the same slogan.
Michael Newman is the softer-spoken yet more insidious version of Ave Crux who throws the same pointed refernces to her critics for the same bad-faith reasons.
@michael newman If you're going to quotee Lexio, at least give a cite/ link. Now explain why you'd choose a secular source in favor of a Catholic one on a Catholic site in a discussion about Catholic clergy.
@Rand Miller Let's just say that's a judgement reserved for the Catholic Church to make according to Canon Law, not you.
...and it's not a judgement for you or anyone else to make, except the Catholic Church .
"as have millions of others" pic related
That isn't how "apostasy" works according to Canon Law 751 and Bishop Strickland should know better.
Ultraviolet always either supports heretic Francis, or his associates who are also heretics. No surprise. Marx is a heretic, apostate, and probably gay.....just like most of Francis' Vatican associates.
@Mathathias Maccabeus Explain the difference between leaving the Catholic faith and apostasy. ;-)
When Bergoglio goes to his reward, hopefully very soon, with the prayed for election of a CATHOLIC pope, gone too will be homo loving Marx, and all the rest of his ilk both in Germany and the USA (especially Cupich, and the 70 other radical homo/Francis loving cardinals and bishops meeting somewhere right now to plot how to make the USA Catholic Church more what Francis wants). I hope we get a traditional ,orthodox Catholic pope, who indeed does "go wolf hunting" and excommunicates Marx, Cupich, and all the rest.
Definitely, the Church needs to put Marx and the erroneous ecclesiastics on trial for heresy but even if it happened they wouldn't go, they would just resign with a nice pension.