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Cardinal Burke: Francis' "Personal Opinions" Are Not Catholic Teaching

Francis’ condemnation of capital punishment is Pope Francis' "personal opinion as a man,” Cardinal Raymond Burke explained.

During a July 21 question and answer session for the Marian Catechists in La Crosse, Wisconsin (full audio below), he invited his audience to buy a copy of the Catechism "as it is now and keep it in a safe place“ [laughter].

Burke noticed that in former days the popes spoke little and avoided expressing personal opinions not to cause confusion. Now, "we have the situation of a Pope who speaks a lot in the first person.”

Burke distinguished between "the Church's official teaching" and Francis "expressing opinions."

The Cardinal further reported that Francis’ attempt to manipulate the Italian Our Father failed, “Italians tell me that no one pays any attention [laughter]. They continue to pray the Our Father as they always have.“

Further, Burke revealed that the [decadent] German bishops are "very much involved" in the Amazon Synod especially through money,

“This synod is for the changing of the Church’s teaching not only on the clerical celibacy but on some other areas as well”.

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I enjoy your posts and your energy when you are responding to one or more of the attacking punks. With an occasional exception, I have lost that energy years ago.

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I enjoy your posts and your energy when you are responding to one or more of the attacking punks. With an occasional exception, I have lost that energy years ago.

There was a time past when at Gloria.tv there were numerous, timely, relevant and interesting news stories which attracted a different type of member and fostered insightful, intelligent commenters who were also ready to debate and defend their positions. Today the stories dwell on how bad Francis is or on a new openly homo priest dancing and singing in some church somewhere.

Those good times have long passed. For several reasons (some more obvious than others) the participation at GTV has decreased drastically over the past year or two. Not only has participation decreased, but the hits to the website are also at an all time low when compared to years past. I am only speaking of the English side of GTV.

You would have enjoyed the old “Glory” days. The slime that unfortunately has now washed upon these shores would have either been removed by moderators or so embarrassed by their own intellectual inadequacy that they “might” restrain themselves so as not to look like fools on a daily basis.
Oh well...I’m reminiscing. Maybe someday those days will return.

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..and I applaud your courage for saying so, Holy Cannoli

Honestly , I do.

Of course now that you have, you'll be accused of also being a 1.) heretic 2.) apostate 3.) blasphemer 4.) liar 5.) homosexual and (my favorite) 6.) a bergoglian. That last one sounds like a race Tolkien might have invented. "Gandalf was half-Bergoglian."

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..and I applaud your courage for saying so, Holy Cannoli

Honestly , I do.

Of course now that you have, you'll be accused of also being a 1.) heretic 2.) apostate 3.) blasphemer 4.) liar 5.) homosexual and (my favorite) 6.) a bergoglian. That last one sounds like a race Tolkien might have invented. "Gandalf was half-Bergoglian."

I may have missed one or two accusations, but the circus has arrived on GTV and I'm not keeping track of every clown throwing pies. Making things worse, some of these Bozos like to juggle the facts and no habla ingles muy bien. So of course that's my fault since I'm "confusing" and "lazy" for not speaking in their language.

Don't let 'em wear you down, HC! :D Twizzlers help. So do high concentrations of Caffeine, Taurine, and B12. I'll pop the tab on my next can of Monster, with you in mind. Sort of an "energy drink spiritual bouquet".
Yes indeed UV ....... illegitimi non carborundum.
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@la verdad prevalece Correction: I have NOT made "comments in favor of homosexuality". You can barely read English. That is why my comments are "confusing". Gesu has the same problem for the same reason. If you are confused, why not ASK me what I meant? Es sencillo, si?

Necesistas esto tambien...
:D jajaja...
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" the only recourse they have left is to behave like a troll and insult and personally attack Catholics."

Followed by:

"Ultraviolet Not only you are a heretic, an apostate, but also a coward and a malicious liar...but I will not waste my time with a foolish blasphemer like you

Gesù è con noi. I wonder if you are blindt to the irony of that. But thank you again for showing …More
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" the only recourse they have left is to behave like a troll and insult and personally attack Catholics."

Followed by:

"Ultraviolet Not only you are a heretic, an apostate, but also a coward and a malicious liar...but I will not waste my time with a foolish blasphemer like you

Gesù è con noi. I wonder if you are blindt to the irony of that. But thank you again for showing everyone here exactly what happens when you lose an argument.

What you have NOT shown are the things I asked you:

1.) why God allowed bad men to have full reigns as valid Popes. This is relevant to our current Pontiff.

2.) proof that the historically recognized "bad popes" weren't bad, which is vital to proving your original point , the one you have quietly abandoned.

3.) A direct quote, and a link to the post where I supposedly refuted Catholic teachings on homosexuality, the way you claimed. I demand proof of your claim and you can not supply it. Put up or shut up. ;-)

You have supplied none of these things. Instead you prefer to do exactly what you project onto "trolls": insult and personal attacks., Then you lie about what I have written claiming, falsely, "The rest of his response was personal insults."

...and that's factually untrue. What I did is expose the logical fallacies you keep making. All YOU do is insult me because you can't argue, much less debate using reason.. You started to, you tried to, and you lost, badly. :D

You have never once shown any evidence of cowardice on my part nor have you ever shown that I lied. You just say these things and pretend they are true, no facts no proof given. You do it a lot. The English and the Portugese may not be right about all Spaniards, but they certainly are right about you.

Just to remind you, the lies you have told about me are a.) serious b.) deliberate and c.) told with the intent of damaging my reputation. That fulfills all three requirements for a grave and mortal sin. You obviously have not repented of it, instead you compounded it

Did you go to First Friday Devotion today? Did you receive the Eucharist? I hope so. ;-) 1 Corinthians 11:27

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ULTRAVIOLET THE EVIL TIMES the luciferian doctrines we are living in this DOOM WORLD came from U.K. and U.S.A. anglo freemasonics heretics NATIONS and not from SPAIN and AMERICA LATINA...time to shut your big mouth
Pope F came from Latina America and we can see the problems as to his heretical statements and what he did in Argentina and the problems there, I heard a Priest from there say he was the last person in the Church who should have been made Pope given what he did in Argentina and what is known of him there -- the Masons have been down there now in Latina America for centuries now, originating in …More
Pope F came from Latina America and we can see the problems as to his heretical statements and what he did in Argentina and the problems there, I heard a Priest from there say he was the last person in the Church who should have been made Pope given what he did in Argentina and what is known of him there -- the Masons have been down there now in Latina America for centuries now, originating in England it seems, and doing their evil work worldwide....You need to get some manners posting comments here-- this isn't some nasty Leftist site.
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Georgia59 ALL SECTS HOLLYWOOD THE WORST GLOBAL INDUSTRIES -IMF- and BANKS CAME FROM USA thats a FACT ...Argentina is just a colony of the empire , sorry but USA is killing millons here in latinoamerica with freemasonic politics
@Georgia59 Like Pope Francis himself does, the Spanish/ Latin Americans on GTV are closing ranks culturally.

They simply can not accept responsibility for Latin America creating a "Marxist Luciferian" Pope. So they blame the UK/ the USA/ the IMF/ Hollywood/ "anglo freemasonics"... anyone and everyone else except themselves.

They wash their hands and then complain how someone else's are dirty.
The bergogolian cannot bear to lose, but since neither Scripture nor the Magisterium support them, the only recourse they have left is to behave like a troll and insult and personally attack Catholics.
Proverbs 17:12 Better to meet a she-bear robbed of its cubs than to confront a fool immersed in folly.
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The bergogolian cannot bear to lose, but since neither Scripture nor the Magisterium support them, the only recourse they have left is to behave like a troll and insult and personally attack Catholics.
Proverbs 17:12 Better to meet a she-bear robbed of its cubs than to confront a fool immersed in folly.
@Ultraviolet Not only you are a heretic, an apostate, but also a coward and a malicious liar…but I will not waste my time with a foolish blasphemer like you. May God rebuke you.
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Cuidado con esta cuenta NO CATÓLICA Ultraviolet que cree la BLASFEMIA que alguien puede nacer gay lo cual equivale a CULPAR a Dios de un PECADO MORTAL que la Biblia nos enseña que Dios ABOMINA y que clama Venganza al Cielo.
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Beware of this user Ultraviolet who yesterday refuted the new scientific study saying that not necessarily because they did not find a gay gene did not mean that it did not exist.
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I don't know if it's the same RomanCandle but both accounts have made confusing comments in favor of homosexuality.
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Gesù è con noi So this is what happens when a Spaniard loses an intellectual debate: he lies. After all these years, now I understand why the English and the Portugese used to call you people "the dung eaters". Except that isn't entirely right. The filth comes out of your mouth more than it goes in.

"Ultraviolet is More than an heretic troll, he is...."
Ad Hominem Fallacy to the N'th degree …More
Gesù è con noi So this is what happens when a Spaniard loses an intellectual debate: he lies. After all these years, now I understand why the English and the Portugese used to call you people "the dung eaters". Except that isn't entirely right. The filth comes out of your mouth more than it goes in.

"Ultraviolet is More than an heretic troll, he is...."
Ad Hominem Fallacy to the N'th degree compounded with Argumentum Ad Nauseam.

"Who believes blasphemy that is born gay by blaming God for...
You're a liar, Gesu. I publicly challenge you to quote me directly with a link to the post, ANYWHERE on GTV where I said such a thing. Let's make this very simple: Direct quote from me, or you lie.

This is no longer about your fatuous interpretations of Church doctrine or Magisterium. This is about facts. Either you can produce the quotes that show I have said those things or you can not. If you can't then you're a liar. --and we both know you can't. :D

Now here's the fun part. Oh, yes. I'm going to enjoy spelling this out for you, Gesu.

You lied. You know it, I know it. Moreover, you lied deliberately and you lied with the purpose of damaging my reputation. Meaning, you've committed a grave i.e. mortal sin. Until you go to confession, and do the usually assigned penance of publicly retracting the lie you told, you're in a state of mortal sin.

Think about that tomorrow, Gesu. Your first Friday Devotion is null and void. So is your First Saturday Devotion. You'll be compounding your sin when you blasphemously receive the Eucharist this Sunday, which is another mortal sin, a worse one.

So not only have I become an instrument of God's chastisement of your pride, I may have become the instrument of your damnation. As they say in Brooklyn, "it couldn't happen to a nicer guy." ;-)

As for the rest of your questions, why should you care?

You "don't want to be contacted" remember?

And I don't feel very inclined to explain myself to you.. You're not a good person, Gesu. You're not a good Christian. You're the kind of Catholic that gives the rest of us a very bad name.

This isn't about your supposed knowledge of The Church or its history, or the Magesterium. It's about your character. This sour little interchange gives me a very clear picture of who you are as a person and, speaking plainly, you make me sick. You're a dishonest debator, a cheat, and when you can't win fairly because you simply aren't smart enough, then you lie.

You don't know what ultraviolet is? You need me to explain it? And you call me "lazy"? Google it in whichever language you please. Wikipedia has a great entry, too.
This is what Jesus has to say about Homosexuals (and pro-Homosexual Clergy):

Here is a quote from one of the greatest saints ever regarding homosexuality. St. Catherine relays words of Our Lord, about the vice against nature, which contaminated part of the clergy in her time. Referrng to sacred ministers, He said: “They not only fail from resisting this frailty [ of fallen human nature]…but do …More
This is what Jesus has to say about Homosexuals (and pro-Homosexual Clergy):

Here is a quote from one of the greatest saints ever regarding homosexuality. St. Catherine relays words of Our Lord, about the vice against nature, which contaminated part of the clergy in her time. Referrng to sacred ministers, He said: “They not only fail from resisting this frailty [ of fallen human nature]…but do even worse as they commit the cursed sin against nature. Like the blind and stupid having dimmed the light of the understanding, they do not recoginze the disease and misery in which they find themselves. For this not only causes Me nausea, but displeases even the demons themselves, whom these miserable creatures have chosen as their lords. For Me, this sin against nature is so abominable that , for it alone, five cities were submersed, by virtue of the jugdment of My Divine Justice, which could no longer bear them…It is disagreable to the demon, not because evil displeases them and they find pleasure in good, but because their nature is angelic and thus is repulsed upon seeing such an enormous sin being commited. It is true that it is the demons who hit the sinner with the poisoned arrow of lust, but when a man carries out such a sinful act, the demons leave."
St.Catherine of Siena, El diabolo, in Orbas de Santa Catarina de Siena
Now here are my questions
Ultraviolet Do you identify yourself as gay?
I don't understand your nickname, Are you a man or a woman?
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While we Hispanics find it difficult to speak English we make the effort to comment in English, on the contrary Ultraviolet says that he is not interested in knowing what we say in our own language in which it is easy for us to give him a complete explanation. Ultraviolet : « No me gusta hablar en espanol, @Gesù è con noi I'm not even opening up Google translate for that».
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While we Hispanics find it difficult to speak English we make the effort to comment in English, on the contrary Ultraviolet says that he is not interested in knowing what we say in our own language in which it is easy for us to give him a complete explanation. Ultraviolet : « No me gusta hablar en espanol, @Gesù è con noi I'm not even opening up Google translate for that».
The rest of his response was personal insults. His arrogance is so great that he is not interested in knowing any catholic arguments. So arrogant is that he contradicts the scientific evidence that affirms that no one is born gay, he contradicts the Word of God that condemns Homosexuality and that he is not willing to listen to the moral teachings of the Catholic Church, so selectively choose Bergoglio as his 'pope' because he knows that Bergoglio contradicts the Catholic moral doctrine that they hates so much, because ultraviolet only wants to listen to himself?.
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And by the way what a foolish question the user Ultraviolet is asking, which demonstrates a great ignorance of a the Catholic doctrine. But the characteristic of fools when asking a question is not that they ask it because they want to learn but because they want to reaffirm their foolishness. Perhaps he does not know that the Church had 38 anti Popes with Bergoglio who have usurped Peter's …More
And by the way what a foolish question the user Ultraviolet is asking, which demonstrates a great ignorance of a the Catholic doctrine. But the characteristic of fools when asking a question is not that they ask it because they want to learn but because they want to reaffirm their foolishness. Perhaps he does not know that the Church had 38 anti Popes with Bergoglio who have usurped Peter's chair. The same Catechism responds that the Church will be subjected to a final test just as the people of Isarael were tested when they passed through the desert, or as the angels were tested, we all have to pass the test of fidelity to God. Because those who defy God do not go to Heaven.
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Nick Donnelly:
Cardinal Müller exposes the fraud being FORCED on the Catholic Church by the Bergoglians.
Will he name the primary agent of this deception?
Jorge Bergoglio
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Ultraviolet is More than an heretic troll, he is an apostate because he rejects the moral teachings of the Catholic Church that condemn the homosexuality. It turns out that he is a Pro Sodomite who believes blasphemy that is born gay by blaming God for SIN that God abominates. And we know that sodomite advocates are potential sodomites. As Saint Paul warns in Romans 1:32. The condemnation …More
Ultraviolet is More than an heretic troll, he is an apostate because he rejects the moral teachings of the Catholic Church that condemn the homosexuality. It turns out that he is a Pro Sodomite who believes blasphemy that is born gay by blaming God for SIN that God abominates. And we know that sodomite advocates are potential sodomites. As Saint Paul warns in Romans 1:32. The condemnation against the vice of sodomy is part of the moral doctrine of the Catholic Church rejecting it means rejecting the Catholic faith.
And St Tomas warns that sodomites are idolaters in this case bergoglioidolatras.
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That is why he has one pope who had to invent a false Martian-ology gospel from Argentina to support gay adoptions.
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This is a war of the sodomites against God and against us Catholics.
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"1 Timothy, 4 1. The Spirit has explicitly said that during the last times some will desert the faith and pay attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines that come from devils,"
www.bibliacatolica.com.br/…/4 - Bíblia Católica Online
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He does not listen because he has preferred to listen to demons Ultraviolet is is a pro-sodomite.
And we already know that St. Paul warns us that sodomite advocates also practice sodomy and are idolaters.
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WHOEVER IS PRO GAY IS SODOMITE AS SAINT PAUL TOLD US.
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Wow, Gesù è con noi . I obviously overestimated you.

You're unable to argue your position intellectually so the best you can do is lie to me and about me.

FACT CHECK:
I'm not imposing anything. That's a lie. The Curia has imposed Pope Francis on The Church and God, for whatever reason, has allowed that to happen. I had nothing to do with either instance happening.

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Wow, Gesù è con noi . I obviously overestimated you.

You're unable to argue your position intellectually so the best you can do is lie to me and about me.

FACT CHECK:
I'm not imposing anything. That's a lie. The Curia has imposed Pope Francis on The Church and God, for whatever reason, has allowed that to happen. I had nothing to do with either instance happening.

If you can't explain why that happened, don't blame me. It's ironic you scream about personal attacks while making one against me and "warning" everyone with false information.

FACT CHECK:
No, the Magisterium of the Church has not excommunicated me. That's a lie also. I told you once before that your opinion about the Magisterium is not the definitive or infallible. Repeating your opinion doesn't change that .

It just means that's all you can do: repeat your errors as if they were factually correct. Clearly you have no other support for your opinion or else you would have cited it long ago.

So that's what it comes down to.

Your opinion is Pope Francis isn't valid because you think the Magisterium invalidates his papacy. Sorry, that isn't how the Church works. What you believe is irrelevant. Those who are in a position to vote for Francis' expulsion feel differently and God has not moved them to change that view.

You keep ignoring that important theological point. This is not simply an issue of politics. Bad things happen because God allows them to happen as part of our free will. That is also true for the workings of His Church.
Nothing about just call me jorge is Catholic teaching!
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BERGOGLIO HAS NO MORE AUTHORITY: EVERY DAY DESTROY THE CHAIR OF SAINT PETER_ IF HE STILL IS NAMED POPE IS BECAUSE NO CARDINAL OR BISHOP STAND TO SAY THE TRUTH WE ARE AT WAR
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Bergoglio is not only a heretic but an apostate and a schismatic.

Pope Benedict already rejected paganism-affirming proposals made in Amazon Synod working doc www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pope-benedict-a…
Saint Vincent Ferrer: If there is a schism, it is necessary that there be schismatics, which are not precisely those who obey the true pope, but those who obey the false as if it were legitimate.
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Bergoglio is in schism against ALL the popes of the Catholic Church.
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Beware with this Bergoglian user Ultraviolet that behaves like a troll and personally attacks the FAITHFUL Catholics who do not support him in his heresy.
Cuidado con este usuario bergogliano @Ultraviolet que actúa como un troll que ataca personalmente a los FIELES católicos que no lo apoyamos en su herejía.
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First, the Magisterium of the Church says that although all the cardinals would have chosen a heretic as pope, that elevation of a heretic is invalid and void.
And second, the Magisterium of the Church excommunicates you for supporting a heretic. Third, it is the sin of apostasy, idolatry and a violation of the First Commandment to have a heretic as pope.
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Ultraviolet You are entitled to belong to the Bergoglian anti-church do not pretend that we support your heresy.
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UltravioletSo you want to impose on us a usurper of the papacy as pope. Just as your heretical reasoning must have been that of the apostate angels who supported Lucifer against God.
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Couple of corrections there, Gesù è con noi Firstly: he's not "my" heretical Pope. He's the official reigning Pope of the Catholic Church, like it or not. I don't like it myself, but hey, them's the breaks.

Secondly, heresy includes refusing to acknowledge The Pope is Pope, like you're doing right now. For someone who supposedly wants to return to tradition, you're forgetting something very …More
Couple of corrections there, Gesù è con noi Firstly: he's not "my" heretical Pope. He's the official reigning Pope of the Catholic Church, like it or not. I don't like it myself, but hey, them's the breaks.

Secondly, heresy includes refusing to acknowledge The Pope is Pope, like you're doing right now. For someone who supposedly wants to return to tradition, you're forgetting something very important. The Inquisition would have you tied to a stake for saying things like that about any reigning Pope.

Thirdly: bold text doesn't make a position correct. Neither does hyperbole.

Fourthly: you still haven't shown what you need to in order to prove the validity of your position. Nobody is contesting Pope Francis has many failings: personal, ideological, spiritual. That, however, fails to explain why he is allowed by God to sit on the Throne of St. Peter.

Why does God allow evil in the world?

You should be asking yourself that question from a far more personal perspective.

If you truly speak for the truths of the Catholic Church and your interpretation of Francis Papacy is correct, then answer this. Why did God make you such a second-rate debator? Why does He allow you to get out-maneuvered so easily?

There are three possibilities and, happily for me, they're not mutually exclusive. 1.) God allows bad things to happen to good people, just like he allows bad men to lead His Church. 2.) God allows you to get verbally smacked around by someone you consider an apostate and heretic so you will recognize you don't speak on His behalf or on behalf of His Church. Now mind you, Gesu. I'm not even rebutting your (yet unproven) claims of heresy or apostasy. 3.) God might be ignoring your plight because He disapproves of you.

That, consequently, would make me an instrument of Divine chastisement, a thought that makes me feel so much better. :))
ULTRAVIOLET BENEDICT XVI WAS OUSTED BY SAINT GALLEN MAFIA. IT WAS CONFIRMED BY CARDENAL DANNELS BEFORE DYING.
THERE CANNOT BE TWO POPES BENEDICT IS POPE SO BERGOGLIO IS NOT.
OURLADY IN LASSALLETE SAID THERE WOULD BE A POPE AND A PONTIF.
ALL CARDINALS NAMED BY BERGOGLIO WENT TO BE CONFIRMED BY POPE BENEDICT XVI.
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ULTRAVIOLET BENEDICT XVI WAS OUSTED BY SAINT GALLEN MAFIA. IT WAS CONFIRMED BY CARDENAL DANNELS BEFORE DYING.
THERE CANNOT BE TWO POPES BENEDICT IS POPE SO BERGOGLIO IS NOT.
OURLADY IN LASSALLETE SAID THERE WOULD BE A POPE AND A PONTIF.
ALL CARDINALS NAMED BY BERGOGLIO WENT TO BE CONFIRMED BY POPE BENEDICT XVI.
BENEDICT ANSWERED THE DUBIA BECAUSE ONLY A POPE CAN ANSWER IT.
A POPECANNOT BE HERETICAL AND APOSTATE AND BERGOGLIO IS HERETICAL APOSTATE AND PRO GAY OR SODOMITE. A POPE CANNOT BE MARXIST BERGOGLIO STATED HE HAS NEVER BE ON THE RIGHT.
A POPE CANNOT PROMOTE SODOMY BERGOGLIO WITH JAMES MARTIN IS PROMOTING SODOMY. MARTEL ON HIS BOOK SODOMY STATED AFTER LIVING A COUPLE OF YEARS IN SANTA MARTA THAT IN VATICAN 80% ARE SODOMITES,
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@DEFENSA DE LA FE Again, history doesn't support your view. What you feel Pope "can" or "can not" do does not change what previous popes have already done. If you think promoting sodomy is bad, and it is, just wait until you learn how many popes actually engaged in the practice.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexuall…

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@DEFENSA DE LA FE Again, history doesn't support your view. What you feel Pope "can" or "can not" do does not change what previous popes have already done. If you think promoting sodomy is bad, and it is, just wait until you learn how many popes actually engaged in the practice.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexuall…

When you can explain why God allowed these men to be Pope, please let me know. Gesù è con noi obviously can't. His solution is a child's solution... kick his little feet and scream the Pope isn't real. Unfortunately for the Church, he -is- real. There have been other Popes who were greedy tyrants and, for whatever reason, God allowed them to reign as Pope. Why does God allow a Marxist Pope? I don't know.

As for Benedict XVI... oh dear. If he admitted he resigned, then he isn't Pope anymore. This is an old debate. Benedict XVI resigned. He -chose- to leave the Papacy. So there aren't two popes anymore. There is Francis.

I can tell you right now Francis' chosen successor will be worse and all the tortured logic why a "bad pope" isn't Pope will not change things.
ULTRAVIOLET. YO IDOLIZE THE POPE AS WE CALL IT PAPOLATRA.
A POPE HAS TO FOLLOW JESUSCRIST NOT GO AGAINST HIM.
BENEDICT NEVER GIVE UP PAPACY HE IS STILL WEARING WHITE HE HAS THE FISHERMANS RING WHEN HE ANOUNCED HE NEVER GAVE IT PETRINE HE US NOT CARDINAL. THE CONCLAVE ELECTED ANGELO SCOLA WAS ANNOUNCED IN THE WEB BUT THEY CANCELLED THE VOTE. BERGOGLIO WAS …More
ULTRAVIOLET. YO IDOLIZE THE POPE AS WE CALL IT PAPOLATRA.
A POPE HAS TO FOLLOW JESUSCRIST NOT GO AGAINST HIM.
BENEDICT NEVER GIVE UP PAPACY HE IS STILL WEARING WHITE HE HAS THE FISHERMANS RING WHEN HE ANOUNCED HE NEVER GAVE IT PETRINE HE US NOT CARDINAL. THE CONCLAVE ELECTED ANGELO SCOLA WAS ANNOUNCED IN THE WEB BUT THEY CANCELLED THE VOTE. BERGOGLIO WAS ELECTED IN THE FIFTH VOTE WHICH IS CANONICAL INVALID. OUR MOTHER IN ANGUERA BRASIL TOLD US IN 2005 THAT BENEDICT IS THE POPE .
YOU ARE A GOOD CATHOLIC BUT CONFUSED I USE TO THINK LIKE YOU BUT HEARIN THE MESSAGE OF OUR MOTHER IN LASALETTE IN FATIMA AND IN ANGUERA MADE ME STUDY AND I AM CLEAR BERGOGLIO IN NOT A POPE. HE IS ANTI POPE NUMBER 38.
YOU ARE RIGHT NEXT SUCCESOR SURE WILL BE A SODOMITE MARXIST BECAUSE BERGOGLIO HAS ELECTED 53% OF CARDINALS MOST ALL SODOMITES ANTI CHURCH THEY SAY PIETRO PAROLIN A HEAD OF GAY LOBY GAY MAFIA WILL BE THE NEXT ONE. BUT THEY DONOT COUNT GOD I HOPE IF THERE IS A POPE WILL BE A GOOD ONE.
OUR LADY TOLD US IN GARABANDAL THERE WILL BE THREE MORE POPES THE LAST ONE IS BENEDICT OUR POPE.
OUR LADY SAID ROME WILL LOSE THE FAITH.
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No DEFENSA DE LA FE . I don't idolize The Pope. I don't even like the Pope. He's certainly a Marxist. However, sedevacantism seems worse and is certainly a heresy.

Benedict XVI resigned from the Papacy. I don't like that, either. History shows neither man is unique. Francis is not the first bad pope or the first to ignore our Lord Jesus. Benedict XVI is not the first Pope to resign the …More
No DEFENSA DE LA FE . I don't idolize The Pope. I don't even like the Pope. He's certainly a Marxist. However, sedevacantism seems worse and is certainly a heresy.

Benedict XVI resigned from the Papacy. I don't like that, either. History shows neither man is unique. Francis is not the first bad pope or the first to ignore our Lord Jesus. Benedict XVI is not the first Pope to resign the Papacy to be replaced by another.

Why does God allow this in His Church? I do not know. I can not in good conscience say a reigning Pope does not count, simply because I (and others here) disagree with what he says or does.

I will try to explain the problem with such reasoning. For a moment, let us talk about a vegetable, instead... asparagus

Asparagus tastes disgusting.
I think so, many other people think so, but many people also like asparagus.
Many people also like Pope Francis.

Asparagus causes bloating and flatulence.
This is well known, but many people choose to ignore this.
Many people also ignore all the bad and wrong things Pope Francis says.

But we can not say, "Asparagus is not a real vegetable because I don't like the taste and what it does."

Pope Francis is like asparagus. He may be disgusting and cause flatulence but for whatever reason, God allowed him to become Pope. Why? For the same reason God created an absolutely disgusting vegetable like asparagus.
As I said before in Spanish @Ultraviolet but do not worry because your heretical pope is Bergoglio because Bergoglio is the pope of the anti-church, of the heretics of the sodomites, of the adulterers, of the idolaters, of the atheists and of all the enemies of God that exist.
The prophecies of the Augustinian nun Emmerich show us that the anti-church also has their own pope.
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Bergoglians are malicious first say that Bergoglio had not fallen into heresy, now that his heresies are so obvious they are so cynical in recognizing that they have a heretic as their pope.
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On that point, we can agree, I fully acknowledge my arrogance Gesù è con noi . It's watered and nourished when I'm beating you at your own game, out-debating you, out-reasoning you and, yes, literally out-thinking you.

My arrogance is further nourished when I see an easy mistake. Like so: both your quotes from former Popes are the proverbial Red Herrings, i.e. irrelevant to the current …More
On that point, we can agree, I fully acknowledge my arrogance Gesù è con noi . It's watered and nourished when I'm beating you at your own game, out-debating you, out-reasoning you and, yes, literally out-thinking you.

My arrogance is further nourished when I see an easy mistake. Like so: both your quotes from former Popes are the proverbial Red Herrings, i.e. irrelevant to the current discussion. In short, these learned and devout men are saying very bad people aren't going to Heaven. Thanks, guys. Sorry Gesu woke you up just to point out the obvious. Unfortunately, that doesn't say anything about why bad men have been appointed Pope, why they reigned as Pope, and died in office as Pope. Nor does it explain why God allowed that to happen.

Additionally, those quotes fail to prove all those bad men weren't, in fact, bad. Which is the only way you actually could prove your interpretation of Church doctrine.

Like I said, good luck with that.

Yes, I'm sneering at you, looking down my metaphoric nose at you and being very arrogant indeed.
The Church has excommunicated all those who support heretics. In other words, all those who support the heresiarch Bergoglio are excommunicated.
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@Ultraviolet I will not waste my time with an arrogant stubborn like you.
Recognizing that you have an apostate, heretic and cismatic as Pope, only deserves to be answered with: VADE RETO SATANA
Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Bula Cantate Domino, 1441, former cathedra: “The Holy Roman Church strongly believes, professes and teaches that those who are not within the Catholic Church, not only the heathen, but also the Jews or heretics and schismatics, they will never share eternal life, and will inevitably go to the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels, unless they …More
Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Bula Cantate Domino, 1441, former cathedra: “The Holy Roman Church strongly believes, professes and teaches that those who are not within the Catholic Church, not only the heathen, but also the Jews or heretics and schismatics, they will never share eternal life, and will inevitably go to the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels, unless they have joined the Church before they die… ”
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"By heart we believe and by mouth confess the one Church, not of heretics but the Holy Roman, Catholic, and Apostolic Church outside which we believe that no one is saved."
-Pope Innocent III, Eius exemplo, 18 December 1208 (DS 423)
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So I when I switch to Syraic (or something truly exotic like Enochian) and you can't follow it, (and I know you can't) does that make you "lazy", @Gesù è con noi?

Man, you're off your game tonight. You're falling flat even with conventional arguing.

Incidentally Denying your interpretations of Church doctrine and denying the doctrines themselves are two different things.

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So I when I switch to Syraic (or something truly exotic like Enochian) and you can't follow it, (and I know you can't) does that make you "lazy", @Gesù è con noi?

Man, you're off your game tonight. You're falling flat even with conventional arguing.

Incidentally Denying your interpretations of Church doctrine and denying the doctrines themselves are two different things.

Disagreeing with the Church might be heresy and apostasy. Disagreeing with you is not. That's a Strawman Fallacy coupled with a Red-Herring. That's because you don't speak for The Church, never have, and thanks be to God never will. What you refuse to acknowledge is history proves your interpretation of doctrine and tradition to be wrong. Boo-hoo. Too bad. Show some supposedly "Christian" humility for a change, swallow your pride and admit you were wrong, even if it's just privately to yourself. Y'know.. since you "don't want to be contacted." an' all that.

Why did God allow those men to be Pope? Or the current one? Or the cardinals Francis is packing into the Curia? Why does God allow any evil in His Church or the world at large? *Shrug* it's an irrefutable fact that He has and does.

By the by, your butthurt name-calling is nothing more than an Ad Hominem Fallacy. Dressing it up in sanctimonious quasi-religious clerical vestments doesn't make it any less fallacious. Still laughably hypocritical, though.

Perhaps some good can come even from your double-standards. Maybe you'll recognize you have a lot more in common with our current pontiff than you'd like to admit.
That could perhaps be said if Bergoglio's personal heresies were private, but NOT most excellent Cardinal Burke, the one who usurps Peter's chair, for example, has had the audacity to correct the Word of God and to annul the Commandment that orders not to commit adultery. Bergoglio is teaching in a UNIVERSAL way, several heresies in matters of faith and morals
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It is impossible for Bergoglio to be a pope when he did not even qualify to be an altar boy. BERGOGLIO'S HERETICAL PAST IS FRANCIS PRESENT
The Magisterium of the Church teaches that a heretic, a woman or a child can become a pope.
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Besides being a heretic and apostata you are lazy. Ultraviolet.
To make it easier to understand a lazy person like you, I summarize:

You are not Catholic because you deny the dogma of papal infallibility and the Magisterium of the Church.
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No me gusta hablar en espanol, @Gesù è con noi I'm not even opening up Google translate for that.

Which brings us to one other thing history has taught me. When people are afraid of getting another beating, they hide. That includes hiding behind a foreign language... 'course what's really making my evening are all the replies I'm getting from a clown who "does not want to be contacted".

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No me gusta hablar en espanol, @Gesù è con noi I'm not even opening up Google translate for that.

Which brings us to one other thing history has taught me. When people are afraid of getting another beating, they hide. That includes hiding behind a foreign language... 'course what's really making my evening are all the replies I'm getting from a clown who "does not want to be contacted".

...and to think you're outraged that Pope Francis is supposedly a gutless, spineless hypocrite. The irony, the irony. ;-)
Ultraviolet Pues usted es un hereje que se opone al dogma de infalibilidad papal. Que en la historia existieron papas inmorales fue un tema que se discutió en ese dogma porque ellos no enseñaron la Herejía, es bien diferente a la herejía que usted profesa. Ahora asi como es IMPOSIBLE que un cuadrado se convierta en un circulo mucho menos uno que no es católico se puede convertir en un papa. …More
Ultraviolet Pues usted es un hereje que se opone al dogma de infalibilidad papal. Que en la historia existieron papas inmorales fue un tema que se discutió en ese dogma porque ellos no enseñaron la Herejía, es bien diferente a la herejía que usted profesa. Ahora asi como es IMPOSIBLE que un cuadrado se convierta en un circulo mucho menos uno que no es católico se puede convertir en un papa. Bergoglio ya era un hereje pertinaz , un cismático y un apostata auto excomulgado varias veces en Argentina así que ni siquiera estaba calificado para ser un simple monaguillo. Siga con su obstinación que lo llevar al mismo lugar de perdición que va a ir el apostata anti papa Bergoglio. Usted no es católico porque rechaza el Magisterio de la Iglesia que ha decretado que NI un hereje NI una mujer NI un niño pueden ser papas. Pero no se preocupe porque el papa suyo si es Bergoglio porque Bergoglio es el papa de la anti iglesia, de los herejes de los sodomitas, de los adúlteros, de los idolatras, de los ateos y de cuanto enemigo de Dios existe.
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Gesù è con noi "Believing that a heretic can become a pope is not only a heresy..."
Unfortunately for your interpretation of canon law regarding heresies, it's already a matter of historical fact. What you (or anyone else) believes God allows doesn't change what He has already allowed to occur.

:Bergoglio IS NOT POPE"
You and all the other arm-chair canon lawyers really do need to review Argume…More
Gesù è con noi "Believing that a heretic can become a pope is not only a heresy..."
Unfortunately for your interpretation of canon law regarding heresies, it's already a matter of historical fact. What you (or anyone else) believes God allows doesn't change what He has already allowed to occur.

:Bergoglio IS NOT POPE"
You and all the other arm-chair canon lawyers really do need to review Argumentum Ad Nauseam. :D The reality is exactly what G. Orwell pointed out decades ago. Opinion is collective entity.. Meaning, Francis is Pope and will remain so, no matter what the naysayers claim.

As for -why- God allows someone like Francis to become Pope, that's a different subject entirely. Unlike you, I'm not arrogant enough to assume humanity is capable of accurately predicting God's actions, classifying them, and saying with certainty what He will or will not allow.

For you to successfully prove your case Gesu, you will have to show that every previous corrupt, degenerate, promiscuous Pope in history was in fact, blameless. Good luck with that.

Last time I checked sedevacantism was a heresy, too. ;-) I'm sure you have even more nonsense about why "Benedict didn't really resign because (BS BS BS)". Something even the former Pope has already publicly refuted. But of course you know better. :P
THE SAINT GALLEN MAFIA MET BEFORE THE CONCLAVE WHICH ACCORDING TO CANNON LAW EXCOMUNICATED THEM ALL AND ALL THE PEOPLE SUPPORTING THEM ONE OF THEM WAS BERGOGLIO . THEIR VOTE WAS INVALID THE ELECTION IS ALSO INVALID.
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If it is known that Bergoglio with the pseudo Amazonian synod, with the Abu Dhabi apostate pact and with the heretical Amoris Laetitia is conspiring against Catholic doctrine to destroy the Church, that is to say that he has openly declared war on Jesus Christ and challenged God, It is no longer time to continue clarifying about the 'personal' heresies and apostasies of Bergoglio but it is time …More
If it is known that Bergoglio with the pseudo Amazonian synod, with the Abu Dhabi apostate pact and with the heretical Amoris Laetitia is conspiring against Catholic doctrine to destroy the Church, that is to say that he has openly declared war on Jesus Christ and challenged God, It is no longer time to continue clarifying about the 'personal' heresies and apostasies of Bergoglio but it is time to take action and depose him. The papal infallibility dogma teaches that a pope is protected so as not to teach the Church in a universal way the heresy in matters of faith and morals. The fact that Bergoglio in his heretical magisterium has taught heresy in Magisterial documents means that Bergoglio IS NOT POPE. Because the Holy Spirit does not assist him.
And the Holy Spirit does not assist him because Bergoglio was already a heretic in Argentina, being disqualified to legitimately be a pope.
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Why? Cardinal Burke rather does not say that Bergoglio for those same heretical personal beliefs are self-excommunicated.
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"A non-Catholic "man" cannot be pope." The Medici and Borgia Popes prove otherwise, mattsixteen24
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A non-Catholic "man" cannot be pope.
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Believing that a heretic can become a pope is not only a heresy but also a sin against the First Commandment and a sin of idolatry as Saint Vincent Ferrer warns.
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