Cardinal Müller: It Is Impossible to Ordain Women

"A woman cannot be ordained a priest. It is sacramentally impossible," Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller told Kath.ch (7 June). He explained that Christ called only men to be apostles and that the priest …More
"A woman cannot be ordained a priest. It is sacramentally impossible," Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller told Kath.ch (7 June).
He explained that Christ called only men to be apostles and that the priest, in his masculinity, represents Christ, the bridegroom of the Church, which is his bride.
When women claim to have a "vocation", it is "a mistake", the Cardinal explained: "Women are not called to the sacred orders. This is pure subjectivism". Christ instituted this sacrament only for men and doesn't contradict himself.
Cardinal Müller also called the abuse hoax an "ideology" based on anti-church prejudice: "Statistically, 95% of child abuse [Austrian figures: 99.7%] occurs in the area of family and youth education, which has nothing to do with the hierarchical-sacramental constitution of the Church and the celibacy of priests".
The Cardinal warns against placing priests under general suspicion. "It is typical of old and new Marxist ideologies that it is not the individual who is guilty of …More
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Cardinal Müller refuted liberal claims about the priesthood and ‘women’s ordination,' stating, ‘It is in the nature of the sacrament that only a man can represent Christ in relation to the Church.’
Denis Efimov
They will still find a way to make it so that women can “serve” as deacons. They spent a year looking for the word “couples” to get around the impossibility of blessing the “marriages” and “unions” of sodomites. They'll do something similar here.
John A Cassani
They will, but it will be completely unsatisfactory, and then the debate will be about how to “officially” admit females to holy orders. That will officially signal that anyone who goes along with it, no matter their title, will have defected from the Faith.
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SonoftheChurch
There is only ONE SOLUTION to this conundrum: The next Holy Roman Pontiff will have to, by his full and supreme Apostolic authority and in a manner that is explicit, incontrovertible, immutable and undeniable, Infallibly Declare, Decree and Define ex Cathedra that it is eternally impossible for women or females of our species to be conferred, or to receive, Holy Orders, by the personal mandate and …More
There is only ONE SOLUTION to this conundrum: The next Holy Roman Pontiff will have to, by his full and supreme Apostolic authority and in a manner that is explicit, incontrovertible, immutable and undeniable, Infallibly Declare, Decree and Define ex Cathedra that it is eternally impossible for women or females of our species to be conferred, or to receive, Holy Orders, by the personal mandate and specific designation of Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself when He established the Priesthood while physically present here on earth. And then, the Holy Father must forthwith promulgate such an infallible proclamation throughout the whole Church and the entire world as an irreformable Dogma of the Faith that must be strictly believed, firmly held and adhered to in perpetuity by all the Catholic Faithful without dissension, debate or discussion forever, everywhere and always, upon the pain of the most severe canonical consequences possible. Afterward — AND MOST IMPORTANTLY — he must see to it that it is aggressively and comprehensively and universally ENFORCED.
Dr Bobus
It's already been done.
Definitions are for new dogma, e.g., Immaculate Conception. That the Church can only ordain men is what is called a secondary object of infallibility.
VatII (Lumen Gentium) extended the Infallible authority of the Ordinary Universal Magisterium to Secondary Objects. This is a recognition of the Infallibility of Tradition.More
It's already been done.

Definitions are for new dogma, e.g., Immaculate Conception. That the Church can only ordain men is what is called a secondary object of infallibility.

VatII (Lumen Gentium) extended the Infallible authority of the Ordinary Universal Magisterium to Secondary Objects. This is a recognition of the Infallibility of Tradition.
SonoftheChurch
No. Apparently it HASN’T been done to the extent to which I refer, nor to the extent that silences continual and ceaseless debate, discussion and disagreement among some of the Church’s leading theologians and highest ranking clerics, including within the Vatican hierarchy itself. It must be infallibly Declared, Decreed and Defined as indisputable, irreformable Dogma in such a way that brooks no …More
No. Apparently it HASN’T been done to the extent to which I refer, nor to the extent that silences continual and ceaseless debate, discussion and disagreement among some of the Church’s leading theologians and highest ranking clerics, including within the Vatican hierarchy itself. It must be infallibly Declared, Decreed and Defined as indisputable, irreformable Dogma in such a way that brooks no further argument or conjecture regarding the subject, in the same way and with as much visible and tangible exercise and display of the supreme Apostolic and Teaching authority of the Holy Roman Pontiff when he proclaims Dogma directly and explicitly ex Cathedra, as was done by Pope Pius XII when he promulgated Munificentissimus Deus in 1950 with great solemnity, ceremony and ecclesiastical fanfare. Thus, what I propose has never been done regarding the issue of the impossibility of women receiving Holy Orders. What you advocate, however, and the theory by which you arrive at your supposition regarding this matter, unlike what immediately occurred and has since occurred in the Church as a result of Pope Pius XII issuing the Proclamation of the Dogma of the Assumption, clearly has not worked and IS NOT working, at least not in any way that would staunch and silence any further or ongoing debate, dissent, discussion or theorizing about the subject. The next Holy Father must “up the ante” and “raise the stakes” so to speak, in a full demonstration of his supreme Apostolic authority, utilizing the ZENITH of the majestic power of the Petrine Office to affirm and decree this forever as immutable, indisputable, infallible Dogma, which all Catholic Faithful MUST hold, believe and adhere to, always and everywhere, throughout the whole of Holy Mother Church.
Dr Bobus
No, you're wrong. You need to read my comments again. For a pope to define it would undermine Tradition.
After OS no one challenged the teaching. Only when a 1970s Jesuit became pope and gave the impression that everything was up for grabs did snakes come out from under the rocks.
OS already says that this teaching has to be held definitively by all the Church's faithful: hancque sententiam ab …More
No, you're wrong. You need to read my comments again. For a pope to define it would undermine Tradition.

After OS no one challenged the teaching. Only when a 1970s Jesuit became pope and gave the impression that everything was up for grabs did snakes come out from under the rocks.

OS already says that this teaching has to be held definitively by all the Church's faithful: hancque sententiam ab omnibus Ecclesiae fidelibus esse definitive tenendam

Once again: The IC was new dogma.

And underlining words or using a bold font does not make them true.
P N F
@Dr Bobus is correct. You will find the infallibility of male ordination discussed in this Vatican document: Professio Fidei
"A similar process can be observed in the more recent teaching regarding the doctrine that priestly ordination is reserved only to men. The Supreme Pontiff, while not wishing to proceed to a dogmatic definition, intended to reaffirm that this doctrine is to be held definitively …More
@Dr Bobus is correct. You will find the infallibility of male ordination discussed in this Vatican document: Professio Fidei

"A similar process can be observed in the more recent teaching regarding the doctrine that priestly ordination is reserved only to men. The Supreme Pontiff, while not wishing to proceed to a dogmatic definition, intended to reaffirm that this doctrine is to be held definitively,32 since, founded on the written word of God, constantly preserved and applied in the Tradition of the Church, it has been set forth infallibly by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.33"
Dr Bobus
One of my profs was the primary author of Ordinatio Sacerdotalis
Billy F
Every woman at the Altar as a Reader, Altar Girl or Lay 'Eucharistic' Minister pushes 15 men to kneel at the altar of Sports Center at St. Mattress and 5 to a proddie entertain me prayer hall...
'Liturgical Dancer' then multiply the above mentioned numbers by 2...
'Deconettes' then multiply the above mentioned numbers by 5,000,000...
'Priestesses' then multiply the above mentioned numbers by …More
Every woman at the Altar as a Reader, Altar Girl or Lay 'Eucharistic' Minister pushes 15 men to kneel at the altar of Sports Center at St. Mattress and 5 to a proddie entertain me prayer hall...

'Liturgical Dancer' then multiply the above mentioned numbers by 2...

'Deconettes' then multiply the above mentioned numbers by 5,000,000...

'Priestesses' then multiply the above mentioned numbers by 10,000,000...

'Bishopettes' then multiply the above mentioned numbers by 15,000,000...

'Cardinalettes' then multiply the above mentioned numbers by 20,000,000...

The infallible, Inerrant Word of God…

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

1 Corinthians 11:6

1 Timothy 2:11-12
Dr Bobus
Yep
Father Karl A Claver
This topic should have been closed a long time ago. There will NEVER, EVER be women priests or deacons. NEVER.
Credo .
Except Sinead O'Connor! 😉
philosopher
The modernist will do an end run around Crd. Muller's argument by seeking a non-ordained deaconeses category, which in practice will be a psuedo-eclessiastic with many functions of an ordained deacon.
John A Cassani
Exactly. That would be a far more pertinent opinion to hear from him. When they insist that priestly ordination is reserved to men, at a time when a female diaconate of a sort is being discussed, it makes it seem that there is an openness to it.