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Francis Denying Immaculate Conception: “Mary Not Born A Saint”

In his Christmas greetings to the employees of the Holy See on December 21, Pope Francis spoke about Our Lady and Saint Joseph in the Nativity scene being full of holiness and joy.

He continued: “And you will tell me: of course! They are Our Lady and Saint Joseph! Yes, but let us not think it was easy for them: saints are not born, they become thus, and this is true for them too.”

According to Catholic doctrine Our Lady was conceived without original sin and therefore born a saint. Francis is know for often speaking without thinking.

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GChevalier
Holà ! le bonhomme sait bien ce qu'il dit ; je dirais même que c'est d'un raffinement diabolique. Niant donc l'Immaculée-Conception d'une façon explicite quoiqu'enrobée, Bergoglio une fois de plus émet une hérésie, et donc... catholique.forumactif.com/t17-l-heresie-o…
Holy Cannoli
Summa Theologicae III:27:4):
“I answer that, God so prepares and endows those, whom He chooses for some particular office, that they are rendered capable of fulfilling it, according to 2 Cor. 3:6: ‘(Who) hath made us fit ministers of the New Testament.’ Now the Blessed Virgin was chosen by God to be His Mother.

"Therefore there can be no doubt that God, by His grace, made her worthy of that …More
Summa Theologicae III:27:4):
“I answer that, God so prepares and endows those, whom He chooses for some particular office, that they are rendered capable of fulfilling it, according to 2 Cor. 3:6: ‘(Who) hath made us fit ministers of the New Testament.’ Now the Blessed Virgin was chosen by God to be His Mother.

"Therefore there can be no doubt that God, by His grace, made her worthy of that office, according to the words spoken to her by the angel (Lk. 1:30,31): ‘Thou hast found grace with God: behold thou shalt conceive,’ etc. But she would not have been worthy to be the Mother of God, if she had ever sinned.

"First, because the honor of the parents reflects on the child, according to Prov. 17:6: ‘The glory of children are their fathers’: and consequently, on the other hand, the Mother’s shame would have reflected on her Son.

"Secondly, because of the singular affinity between her and Christ, who took flesh from her: and it is written (2 Cor. 6:15): ‘What concord hath Christ with Belial?’

"Thirdly, because of the singular manner in which the Son of God, who is the ‘Divine Wisdom’ (1 Cor. 1:24) dwelt in her, not only in her soul but in her womb. And it is written (Wis. 1:4): ‘Wisdom will not enter into a malicious soul, nor dwell in a body subject to sins.’

“We must therefore confess simply that the Blessed Virgin committed no actual sin, neither mortal nor venial; so that what is written (Cant 4:7) is fulfilled: ‘Thou art all fair, O my love, and there is not a spot in thee,’ etc.

Res ipsa loquitur. 🧐
Francesco A.A. Mastracchio
Wording os important. Your headline is theologically incorrect. Mary born without sin does not equate to being born a saint. To be a saint there must be a proving ground meaning that a life must first be lived. No one is born a saint.

The Catholic Church believes that saints are ordinary and typical human beings who made it into heaven. In the broader sense, everyone who's now in heaven is …More
Wording os important. Your headline is theologically incorrect. Mary born without sin does not equate to being born a saint. To be a saint there must be a proving ground meaning that a life must first be lived. No one is born a saint.

The Catholic Church believes that saints are ordinary and typical human beings who made it into heaven. In the broader sense, everyone who's now in heaven is technically a saint. Saints are human beings who lived holy lives in obedience to God's will and are now in heaven for eternity. (dummies.com)
Matt B
To be a saint is to be sanctified. Mary was sanctified at the moment of her Conception. Mary was a living saint. The context of the Pope's remarks indicate that sainthood was somehow "not easy" for Mary to attain. This is incorrect
JOHNANDSUSAN
Speaking before thinking is not necessarily blaspheming. I can understand what Pope Francis is meaning to say. JAS
JOHNANDSUSAN
Our leaders especially the Holy Father needs our prayers and as do all our spiritual guides Distracting ourselves unnecessarily is exactly that I believe. We can as I imagine use our time more wisely again when it comes to some trying to second guess the Holy Father's words and intentions. JAS
CarolineA03
He is blaspheming. It is known that one of Our Lady's Titles is "Ark of the New Covenant"
As the Old Ark was considered too holy to be touched - so is Our Lady
The Old Ark contained the Manna, the Word of God on Stone (The 10 Commandments) and the Priestly Rod of Aaron. that came back to life [www.usccb.org/bible/scripture.cfm; www.usccb.org/bible/scripture.cfm].
Our Lady (The New Ark) contained…More
He is blaspheming. It is known that one of Our Lady's Titles is "Ark of the New Covenant"
As the Old Ark was considered too holy to be touched - so is Our Lady
The Old Ark contained the Manna, the Word of God on Stone (The 10 Commandments) and the Priestly Rod of Aaron. that came back to life [www.usccb.org/bible/scripture.cfm; www.usccb.org/bible/scripture.cfm].
Our Lady (The New Ark) contained the LIVING Manna, The Word of God made FLESH, and "the Branch" (Messianic title) who would die but come back to life [www.usccb.org/bible/scripture.cfm].

Now, reading the Old Testament, you can clearly see that the Ark of the Covenant was carried around on a bier, in a similar way to the way Icons representing the Holy Virgin are transported on Her Feast Days outside the Churches.

It is found that so sacrosanct is the Holy Virgin - that it is known that she was perpetually a Virgin - due to her being the chosen vessel to bear the Son of the Most HIgh God.

Now Francis clearly does not venerate The Holy Mother of Our Lord sufficiently - He makes known his preference to believe & promote heretical (Blasphemous) teachings contrary to the Roman Catholic Traditional Faith. How can he be a validly elected Pope? Even BORGIA - reputed to be one of the most troublesome Popes had no quarrel with any of the Church's Teachings - and it is known that a valid Pope NO MATTER WHAT HE TAUGHT PREVIOUSLY, tends to become Orthodox in his teachings when made Pope. It is a clear case of proof being given that Francis is not legitimately elected. I don't know about you - but I'd rather not be cast into Hell by Our Lord for following a Pope who's own errors promote the wrath of God. His teachings are base and not-spiritual in tenour (it's clearly NOT the Holy Ghost he takes his inspiration from) God help those who do not SEE that - he is in danger of being struck by Lightning.

Regarding the Holiness of the Ark.

"We observe in Holy Scripture, for instance, Uzziah, who died when he touched the ark of the covenant, which was arguably the holiest object in the Old Testament, even though he was only trying to prevent it from falling:

2 Samuel 6:6-7(RSV) And when they came to the threshing floor of Nacon, Uzzah put out his hand to the ark of God and took hold of it, for the oxen stumbled. [7] And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there because he put forth his hand to the ark; and he died there beside the ark of God.

Others died by merely looking inside the ark:

1 Samuel 6:19 And he slew some of the men of Beth-she'mesh, because they looked into the ark of the LORD; he slew seventy men of them, and the people mourned because the LORD had made a great slaughter among the people. (cf. Ex 33:20). "

The Blessed Virgin Mary became, in effect, the New Holy of Holies, where God specially resides. But in the case of Mary, God is more present than He ever was in the tabernacle and temple, because now He is there physically, as a man, as well. Mary is the ark of the new covenant (as the Church fathers called her) and Mother of God (the Son)"

www.ncregister.com/…/perpetual-virgi…

Examples from the Gospel of Luke where St Luke clarifies that Our Lady is the Ark of the New Covenant

www.agapebiblestudy.com/charts/Virgin Mary as …
aderito
One,s faith reflects what goes on the heart and mind when you speak
Gesù è con noi
Revelation 13: 6 It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven.
frjimanderson
But our mother had to correspond to the grace of Immaculate Conception heroically throughout her life; likewise St. Joseph to the extraordinary grace he received to live as Mary's most chaste spouse and provide for Jesus and Mary until his death.
Jungerheld
I wonder if he and Bishop Linda are friends.
mccallansteve
Crafty, Francis. Does he know exactly what he is saying or is he so poorly educated on things Catholic that his ignorance is extreme? Every Catholic worthy of the name knows Our Lady was sinless from her ,Immaculate Conception.
Hermes23
Bergoglio is not Catholic.
Ratzi
Padre Pio is not happy!
GEORGE AROKIA
Well, Pope Francis must go , about Mary Immaculate ? Did he mean what he said?
Ratzi
"Pope" Francis is THE false prophet!
aderito
Our lady was the uncorruptable perfect vessel for our lord Jesus Christ ,She was full of grace according to God and Gabriel the angel that spoke to her ,So to the eyes of God she was perfect ,Pope Francis please read the scriptures {if you believe the scriptures ?}
Jim Dorchak
I think that he is too smart for most of us... smart in a bad way, and that he DOES speak after thinking or knowing as it may be. We are worse off for thinking that he is less capable. He knows what he says. He knows what we know. HE IS THE POPE and a JESUIT. They are trained to measure their words like grains of sand.
Prayhard
The subverter of the Knight of Malta and much Catholic teaching as now taught, that is, wrongly or not taught, is likely testing to see if he can try corrupt another aspect of the Magisterium.
brendankiwi
straight from the bologna school. The belief that a fine balance exists between good and bad and awareness of this issues some kind of virtue.
Sancta Giuseppe
Mary never said at Lourdes that she was the one and only Immaculate Conception. Mary said: "Que Soy Era Immaulada Concepciou". "I am was immaculate conception" or "That I Immaculate Conception was". This is Occitan the local language of Lourdes and not the French national language. I do wish that people would get this right or correct. I have translated this myself on the internet and it always …More
Mary never said at Lourdes that she was the one and only Immaculate Conception. Mary said: "Que Soy Era Immaulada Concepciou". "I am was immaculate conception" or "That I Immaculate Conception was". This is Occitan the local language of Lourdes and not the French national language. I do wish that people would get this right or correct. I have translated this myself on the internet and it always comes out the same. Mary was just acknowledging that she had been conceived without sin and nothing more. I wish people would stop putting words in Mary's mouth that she never said. There are 2 people that were Conceived Without Sin from the Very First Moment of Their Conceptions, and that is Mary and her Husband Joseph, and they are the Only Two. The Bible shows quite clearly that Joseph was Conceived Immaculate as was Mary, it says in the Bible that He was "Just" which comes from the word "Justification" which means a Perfect Man who is Sinless. The Angel shows Joseph to be Sinless as he says "You are to name Him Jesus for He will save His people from Their Sins". Notice how the angel does not include Joseph in the sins of the people! The angel does not say that Joseph had any sin in Him whatsoever. Not just mere sanctification either which would have left the stain of original sin in Him, but the angel says nothing of the sort and leaves Joseph completely without sin. In Genesis where it is a Divine Prophecy of Our Lord and St Joseph as Father and Son, it says there that Joseph was made Separate from His Brethren, that is, both the Brethren of Israel as well as the Brethren of all mankind. Joseph had to be Immaculate in order to be separate as if He was only sanctified He would have been the same as Jeremiah and John the Baptist, which the Bible says He was not. The other above Bible quotes are from the First Chapter of Matthew. As someone said above "people need to read the Bible to see this". But someone may say that Joseph died due to sin. Not so! Joseph did not die due to sin but had a Dormition like Mary and He did this so that Jesus could inherit the Throne of King David, and this is the only reason for the Dormition of Joseph.