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Heartless and Hideous: Munich Cardinal "Blesses" Symbol of Novus Ordo

Munich Cardinal Reinhard Marx "blessed" on July 10 a Luther table for the reopening of Saint Nicholas parish church in Haimhausen, Dachau district. The table expresses the coldness and soullessness of the Novus Ordo as it presently exists.

The altar and the ambo which is put directly in front of it, are made of dark tombac, a bronze alloy, which - as was explained - is kept in a "reduced form."

The beautiful but now desecrated church had to be completely renovated in recent years because roof, choir and tower suffered from structural problems. The costs for the renovation amounted to about 6 million euros.

A user on Gloria.tv asked about the tombac table where "that thing" came from. His guess, "Ikea?"

Picture: © Pressefoto Erzbistum München, #newsPezsddawtb



FrDJR
What do you expect from a Heretic!?
Louis IX
“Oh shoot we forgot to pack the new altar”, “here, just tip over this coffee table, voila!”
Ave Crux
The malice could not be more clear. Any human being with the most basic common sense and aesthetical taste would at least recognize the need to harmonize the altar with the artist genre of the church it was going to be installed in. No.....instead they want deliberate rupture and hideousness to stand there in the Holy Place where "the most beautiful thing this side of Heaven" -- Holy Mass …More
The malice could not be more clear. Any human being with the most basic common sense and aesthetical taste would at least recognize the need to harmonize the altar with the artist genre of the church it was going to be installed in. No.....instead they want deliberate rupture and hideousness to stand there in the Holy Place where "the most beautiful thing this side of Heaven" -- Holy Mass offering the Body and Blood of Christ -- is to be offered.
Ultraviolet
Now, now... that's implying malice and making a No True Scotsman Fallacy in the bargain. Don't undermine your otherwise valid criticism with fallacies. Neither of us can say we know what this Cardinal was thinking, but you're entirely correct that he's lacking both common sense and aesthetic taste.

The reason I stress it may not be malice is because secular modernism does the same: i.e. promo…More
Now, now... that's implying malice and making a No True Scotsman Fallacy in the bargain. Don't undermine your otherwise valid criticism with fallacies. Neither of us can say we know what this Cardinal was thinking, but you're entirely correct that he's lacking both common sense and aesthetic taste.

The reason I stress it may not be malice is because secular modernism does the same: i.e. promotes either abstract or minimalist aesthetics, or both -invariably in the most garishly grotesque manner possible. In their warped world-view this is supposedly an "improvement".
Ave Crux
@Ultraviolet I guess I say "malice" meaning "hardened Modernist heart" -- because only a hardened heart could be so indifferent to the rare beauty of that church and want -- in a complete rupture with that beauty -- to introduce a clearly Modernist monstrosity into the very heart of it. You know..? 😉

I believe a truly Catholic heart, a heart open to the breath of grace and the undeniable beauty …More
@Ultraviolet I guess I say "malice" meaning "hardened Modernist heart" -- because only a hardened heart could be so indifferent to the rare beauty of that church and want -- in a complete rupture with that beauty -- to introduce a clearly Modernist monstrosity into the very heart of it. You know..? 😉

I believe a truly Catholic heart, a heart open to the breath of grace and the undeniable beauty of that sacred space could not have done such violence to that sanctuary, n'est pas?

Just the fact that it's....BLACK???????????! You know what I mean.....? 😲

P.S. Or maybe it's dark walnut.....? Or....?
Ultraviolet
Personally, the color doesn't bother me, aside from being totally out of place in that setting. After all, back in the 12th century Pope Innocent III systematized the use of five official colors: Violet, White, Black, Red and Green. Until Vatican Council II, Black was the liturgical color of Good Friday, yes?

I'm being picky and precise and making a virtue of my flaws, perhaps. ;-) Your aesth…More
Personally, the color doesn't bother me, aside from being totally out of place in that setting. After all, back in the 12th century Pope Innocent III systematized the use of five official colors: Violet, White, Black, Red and Green. Until Vatican Council II, Black was the liturgical color of Good Friday, yes?

I'm being picky and precise and making a virtue of my flaws, perhaps. ;-) Your aesthetic point is valid, however... we can't know what motivation the Cardinal has. There are modernist clergy who truly believe modernism is a good thing. They don't perceive it as evil... (facepalm.jpg) I know.

What I mean is they seem to be good men, just horribly, horribly misguided. I'm trying to give the Cardinal the benefit of the doubt.The irony of me trying to be charitable, eh? :D In this instance, sound reasoning demands it since there's no evidence of anything other than bad taste and error (as opposed to malice or an agenda)

To use a slightly different example, I know of a Catholic priest who's an enthusiastic promoter of the abortion tainted Covid vaccine. He seems, as near as I can tell, to mean well. That is to say, he's following the mainstream interpretation of CDF's ruling -but what he's promoting is as much an error as this Cardinal's bad taste.
Ave Crux
@Ultraviolet Your "anonymous" priest reference made me chuckle. Yes, I know we can't judge anyone's dispositions. However, I am actually being influenced by reported historical fact.

I am reminded of the testimony of Bella Dodd, a former Communist Party operative converted by Bishop Sheen after becoming disillusioned with the lies of the Communist Party, who testified before Congress on the …More
@Ultraviolet Your "anonymous" priest reference made me chuckle. Yes, I know we can't judge anyone's dispositions. However, I am actually being influenced by reported historical fact.

I am reminded of the testimony of Bella Dodd, a former Communist Party operative converted by Bishop Sheen after becoming disillusioned with the lies of the Communist Party, who testified before Congress on the planned and systematic infiltration of the government and the educational system (which we clearly see now in the news has deep roots) and also testified elsewhere about the systematic infiltration the Catholic Church.

Alice VonHildebrand, wife of the revered and legendary Dr. Dietrich VonHildebrand, shared on more than one occasion the testimony she personally heard Bella Dodd share concerning the fact that she alone could account for directing 1,100 young Communist Party members into the Catholic Church's Seminaries to become priests; and that many -- at the time of later testimony -- were already in positions of high authority, even in Rome. She said: "The Church will so change that you will not recognize it."

In fact, friends of mine who are Catholic activists in the tri-state area knew Alice VonHildebrand personally (she and her husband lived in Manhattan), and in their discussions with her learned more along these lines.

Here is one short clip where Alice VonHildebrand refers to this testimony by Bella Dodd at a public speech in California.

I have read Bella Dodd's autobiography where she outlines their intentional infiltration of the Teachers Unions, etc. She even said that she would see politicians who had been elected to the Republican Party coming to Communist Party meetings as members....!

We can't be naive....the vast majority of "good" people have been slumbering while God's enemies have penetrated virtually every last bastion and bulwark of resistance like termites.

By their fruits you will know them.....I guess that's why I call Modernism "malice".
Marysrose
A table is NOT an altar. The Traditional Mass is the sacrifice of Calvary with the Body and Blood of Jesus, NOT the sharing of bread. Let's not reduce Jesus' sacrifice for us.
Jungerheld
We love Ikea, all about style and functionality at a reasonable price. Ikea staff would equally be scratching their heads, I think, so no insult intended toward Ikea!