Ultraviolet
That isn't how "apostasy" works, @la verdad prevalece Please review the Catholic Church's official definition of the term. :P
la verdad prevalece
Two US APOSTATE "bishops" (Apostate John Charles Wester & Apostate John Stowe) back pro-LGBT campaign calling for acceptance of men who claim to be female
Ultraviolet
No, it isn't "fair enough to say" @rhemes1582 Belgian state TV doesn't clear their programming with Pope Francis. In fact, he's upheld the Church's teachings on heterosexuality and all his haters didn't give him so much as a shred of credit for doing so. If Abp. Vigano had made the same statements, there would have been a flood of praise. Because that's how hypocrites respond. It isn't More
No, it isn't "fair enough to say" @rhemes1582 Belgian state TV doesn't clear their programming with Pope Francis. In fact, he's upheld the Church's teachings on heterosexuality and all his haters didn't give him so much as a shred of credit for doing so. If Abp. Vigano had made the same statements, there would have been a flood of praise. Because that's how hypocrites respond. It isn't what is said (even when it's good), it's who says it.

This isn't "the Francis effect" this is the modern secular leftist effect which is literally hell-bent on corrupting Western civilization by promoting such nonsense.
rhemes1582
@Ultraviolet
Hmm..Maybe we are talking about 2 different people?
I don't see his actions the same way you do.
Ultraviolet
Can you show an example where Belgian state TV did clear their programming with Pope Francis? :D

The secular world has been promoting homosexuality long before Pope Francis. Strange how it was never called "The Benedict XVI effect" or the "John Paul II effect". -because that's how hypocrites behave. When they like a pope, they never blame him for what happens during his papacy.

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Can you show an example where Belgian state TV did clear their programming with Pope Francis? :D

The secular world has been promoting homosexuality long before Pope Francis. Strange how it was never called "The Benedict XVI effect" or the "John Paul II effect". -because that's how hypocrites behave. When they like a pope, they never blame him for what happens during his papacy.

The only "Francis effect" that's happened lately is a huge cry of outrage and fury from the secular world when the CDF, approved by the Pope, stood by the Church's traditional teachings and refused to change them to suit the views of the media's opinion-shapers.
rhemes1582
@Ultraviolet That opening question is ridiculous on the face of it. Of Course not.
Your second paragraph is equally as odd. I don't see his actions the same way you do.
Ultraviolet
Actually, it isn't. Because this post is about what Belgian state TV promotes, not Pope Francis. You are the one who introduced a connection. You are the one suggesting "Fair enough to say, 'The Francis effect'. So... fair enough, prove it. Show that Pope Francis influences the programming on Belgian state TV or that Belgian state TV clears its programming with the Vatican.

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Actually, it isn't. Because this post is about what Belgian state TV promotes, not Pope Francis. You are the one who introduced a connection. You are the one suggesting "Fair enough to say, 'The Francis effect'. So... fair enough, prove it. Show that Pope Francis influences the programming on Belgian state TV or that Belgian state TV clears its programming with the Vatican.

I see The Pope approving the CDF's statement "The church can not bless sin" as a good thing. If you don't see his action the same way, what does that mean? ;-)
De Profundis
rhemes1582
Fair enough to say,"The Francis effect" ?
Defeat Modernism
"And reducing the cities of the Sodomites, and of the Gomorrhites, into ashes, condemned them to be overthrown, making them an example to those that should after act wickedly. [7] And delivered just Lot, oppressed by the injustice and lewd conversation of the wicked. [8] For in sight and hearing he was just: dwelling among them, who from day to day vexed the just soul with unjust works. [9]More
"And reducing the cities of the Sodomites, and of the Gomorrhites, into ashes, condemned them to be overthrown, making them an example to those that should after act wickedly. [7] And delivered just Lot, oppressed by the injustice and lewd conversation of the wicked. [8] For in sight and hearing he was just: dwelling among them, who from day to day vexed the just soul with unjust works. [9] The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly from temptation, but to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be tormented."

-St. Peter's Second Epistle Chapter 2:6-9