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For all the times of having to endure the banality of progressive Catholicism...Lord have mercy.
Sally Dorman shares this
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“From a blind attitude over the theft of work zerox paper for personal use, Lord have mercy”
Wilma Lopez
My goodness, what a circus.
Dante Alighieri
Here's the choir
Credo .
LOL! Very witty. 😂
Ave Crux
Satire, right....? This can't possibly be real.
Bruceph Mildur
it may not be Catholic, but they sure have their hands full!
lancs1
That'll be a fine example of the VaticanTwoist religion. Nothing to do with Catholicism. It sounds like how the football results used to be intoned on TV on Saturday evenings. (I guess that would be a "vigil mass" by their standards)
Anthony St Joseph
Everyday it seems, there's new footage of liturgical abuse, these "clown masses". What I find most difficult to take are the parishioners themselves. I have yet to see anyone walk out of one of these horrific affairs. What does that say, I wonder? Willing participants or rabbits caught in the headlights?
And most of these parishioners, let's be honest, look old enough to remember the mass before …More
Everyday it seems, there's new footage of liturgical abuse, these "clown masses". What I find most difficult to take are the parishioners themselves. I have yet to see anyone walk out of one of these horrific affairs. What does that say, I wonder? Willing participants or rabbits caught in the headlights?

And most of these parishioners, let's be honest, look old enough to remember the mass before the NO. Why is it they put up with this, while the young are flocking to Tradition? I get why the young are doing it, but these people surely know and have all experienced better. Is it simply the difficulties in finding a Latin Mass?

How we all need to pray for each other; for this, I fear, is only the beginning of our woes.
lancs1
Here in the UK most cradle Catholics have left. My experience is that my uncles and aunts - in their 80s and 90s - mis-remember the old mass. They think it was the same basic thing but done in a language they didn't understand and with the priest "with his back to you". None of them are aware that the two rituals are fundamentally different (propitiatory sacrifice versus table fellowship) nor …More
Here in the UK most cradle Catholics have left. My experience is that my uncles and aunts - in their 80s and 90s - mis-remember the old mass. They think it was the same basic thing but done in a language they didn't understand and with the priest "with his back to you". None of them are aware that the two rituals are fundamentally different (propitiatory sacrifice versus table fellowship) nor that all 7 sacraments were drastically altered. They see it as just more modern (in a 1960s "groovy" sense and "with it". It seems that catechesis must have been pretty terrible in the 1950s in the dog days just before the ruin instigated by Vatican II. I also know lots of ex-Catholics a little older than me who have become Anglican or Methodist because the Church gives the impression that they're all the same these days... I think we have to come to the conclusion that some very bad people intended this to happen.
Anthony St Joseph
@lancs1
I'm in the UK too, and reflecting on your post, I must admit I've noticed this as well.
My mum and her sisters were incredibly devout; never missed mass, always said the rosary and made countless visits to Lourdes, for example. But, they all had their heads turned by Charismatic Renewal and by things like Medjugorje (as did I for a time); and fell for everything emotional that seeped …More
@lancs1
I'm in the UK too, and reflecting on your post, I must admit I've noticed this as well.

My mum and her sisters were incredibly devout; never missed mass, always said the rosary and made countless visits to Lourdes, for example. But, they all had their heads turned by Charismatic Renewal and by things like Medjugorje (as did I for a time); and fell for everything emotional that seeped into the liturgy. I remember my mum getting involved with the "Faith Alive" programme, which, I think, The Universe, or one of the Catholic papers had produced. It talked of a "springtime", in the church. Mum rarely spoke about life before the new mass. Occasionally she would say, Latin Mass meant wherever they were in the world, they understood it (against say, a French mass in Lourdes). Although, she did miss having a second Gospel. But she liked the vernacular and like so many, just forgot what had been lost.

I just about remember the new mass being introduced, as a new, 7 year old altar boy, we had things to learn. Back then, Easter Saturday still meant the first four pews were full of the altar boys who weren't serving at the Vigil and an overflowing church, behind us. It still meant the whole school going to Benediction, it meant every class said the Angelus at noon. We still had weekly Deanery masses in Lent, still had processions. So, at the time, I guess, once the initial shock of change had settled down, it must have seemed like all was well, for some, better than well.

But, the next time we looked, we were all clapping our hands and saying "peace be with you" to the person, often ten or so pews ahead of us and on the other side of the church (who had only just looked up from reading the weekly bulletin). But then, when we looked again, there was hardly anyone left to wish peace upon. As an aside, one of the few benefits of the Covid reaction was that, for a time, this silly practice disappeared. Last time I was at a new mass though, I saw it was back in full swing- with swing being the right word.

Looking back though, I think my mum and those around her knew, deep down, what had been done to them, but were powerless. They respected their priests and trusted the church. You are so right when you say "very bad people intended this to happen" And it was so cleverly engineered. I don't want to call it evil genius, but it's exactly what it was. Talk about a long con.

We've all been loyal to the church. How much longer I we going to have to endure the Church being disloyal to us?
Koza Nutria
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salliperson
Sacrilege.
mccallansteve
From tripe such as this, Lord have mercy! (BTW : Nice protestant church service)